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So tell me Jez North does your country’s history bring a smile to your face?
Do you see a future were the first world people of your land (assuming you are an Aussie) are once again in charge, not some one with European ancestry? In my country I can and a person like Forever Rugby lived through that transition, may have even played a part in it.
Legacies can't be won: History won't look back kindly on Rassie's Springboks
What can one say about Siya, other than what a great human being. South Africa’s history will have a chapter dedicated to him, as he goes beyond rugby for South Africa.
'You've broken your neck': Terrifying moment that helped bond World Cup final's rival skippers
I have always been amazed at the criticism of Sam Cane, anybody who can break his neck and still find the courage to carry on playing the game, I would support on my team any day.
Sam Cane is a sh@t Richie McCaw, but he is a great Sam Cane.
Go Springboks.
'You've broken your neck': Terrifying moment that helped bond World Cup final's rival skippers
I guess it comes down to your view of the world.
I believe the vast majority of people are decent individuals and thus I will give them the benefit of the doubt when a misunderstanding could have taken place.
But you feel free to carry on looking for racists behind every corner, after all they could be among us.
RWC News: Bongi set to play final despite WR investigation, Boks and All Blacks react to racist slur allegations
In identifying people skin tone (race) is one of the most noticeable differences.
When I disrupted burglars breaking into my house, the first thing the police asked was where they black or white? Does that make the police racist or are they simply looking for the quickest way to identify the individuals involved?
RWC News: Bongi set to play final despite WR investigation, Boks and All Blacks react to racist slur allegations
Maybe the solution is to add an indirect penalty, thus you can’t go for posts but must go for a line out.
The scrum saga: It does not feel right that teams are exploiting the penalty 'treasure hunt'
Yes it is, provided you are allowed to continue with the dominance without the other team ending the contest illegally.
The scrum saga: It does not feel right that teams are exploiting the penalty 'treasure hunt'
The penalty is not given for dominance, it is given for an illegal act by the team that is being dominated that ends the contest (collapsing, dropping the bind, knee on the ground, pulling out of the contest, etc.)
The same logic is applied to line outs, if you grab the dominant jumper’s arm, if you make contact with him in the air.
The scrum saga: It does not feel right that teams are exploiting the penalty 'treasure hunt'
You included, you have been given a perfectly plausible reason for why it could be a misunderstanding, but you are still unwilling to give the person the benefit of the doubt.
I trust you will be man enough to come on to this forum and publicly apologies to Bongi when it is found that what he actually said was “wyde kant” meaning wide side. It was in relation to a penalty England had just received and he was setting his defensive lines in anticipation of the ball going wide.
RWC News: Bongi set to play final despite WR investigation, Boks and All Blacks react to racist slur allegations
Why should he, surely the accuser has the responsibility to ensure it is not a misunderstanding before going down this path.
RWC News: Bongi set to play final despite WR investigation, Boks and All Blacks react to racist slur allegations
100%, the question should be why would Curry want to shake hands with a racist, unless he knew there was no racial slur.
RWC News: Bongi set to play final despite WR investigation, Boks and All Blacks react to racist slur allegations
Jacko I agree 100%.
I have listened to the audio, which you will have to listen to very carefully to hear. But Bongi calls out twice “wyde kant, wyde kant” which translated to english means wide side, wide side. It was in relation to a penalty advantage England had just received and so he was setting his defensive lines for a potential wide play. He was not even looking at Curry.
So my question to you Jacko is given the seriousness of the accusation, what should the punishment be for Curry and the English team (as I believe they have put in a formal complaint) if it is found to be false accusation? It is too easy these days to accuse people of racism, a crime that has such a negative connotation that you are perceived as guilty until proven innocent?
RWC News: Bongi set to play final despite WR investigation, Boks and All Blacks react to racist slur allegations
Hi Peter
I do agree with you it works both ways.
Calling a person a black or white c… is not racist, it’s not nice but it is not racist. It is simply a means of identifying the c… in question. Lest the English think that they were all being called c… Now if he said all blacks or all whites are c…ts then we would be dealing with racism.
I have watched the match again and I can confirm that what Bongi said was “wyde kant”, this is Afrikaans for wide side. He said it in the act of setting up the defensive line given that England had just received a penalty advantage, and he was afraid they would thus choose to go wide. He is not even looking at Curry. I suspect Curry was very aware of the fact that it was not directed at him, but was trying to get some further advantage in the game. Good on him, all teams do this. What is not acceptable is to keep this going after the game by telling the press that something was said to him, knowing full well what the repercussions would be for the player in question.
RWC News: Bongi set to play final despite WR investigation, Boks and All Blacks react to racist slur allegations
AB supporters, for my money it is Brodie Retallick who puts the grunt back in the AB pack. I see him as doing the same job that Etzebeth does for the Springboks, if they are on fire they lift the pack. This will be where the final is won or lost for me. Can’t wait for the clash of the big guys, just hope Etzebeth can recharge the batteries so that we get the French Etzebeth and not the English one.
Good, the bad, the Eddie: Dumbest idea in sport, Boks' 'big set of nuts' and Will Jordan's genius explained
Thanks Geoff for a great article.
Can we all agree up front as supporters of two great teams, that win or lose we acknowledge that the officials for the final are all professionals who would not favour one team over the other. They may make an error or two, but if you are good enough you are good enough, finished.
This is the final I have always wanted, but I am biased being a Springbok supporter and loving the challenge the All Blacks bring, above all others. That having been said, I feel there are two new places being set up at the table in France and Ireland. France in particular with their under 20 side being something from another planet (2027 could be the NH final the NH has been hoping for).
The Wrap: There's a reason Boks and All Blacks are at the big boys' table - the rest have to earn their way onto it
I agree that Rugby should be a game for all shapes and sizes, but I see no one complaining when men the size of forwards ( Lomu, Clarke, etc) are placed on the wing to run over smaller wings.
How safe is it having a wing of 80kg needing to stop the opposition wing weighing over 120kg?
Just to put it on record, I would not want world rugby to limit the size of wings. I love watching the likes of Lomu and Clarke and seeing how my Springboks rise to the challenge of dealing with this.
'Seriously': Ex-Scotland coach calls on World Rugby to 'act' on Springboks after 'abusing bench' against All Blacks
What rubbish. To be sanctioned for an innocuous gesture.
What is becoming of Rugby, everyday it is becoming a little bit more like soccer.
Savea as a South African I love what you do, please don’t let the snowflakes take away the fire. Can’t wait for the next AB vs Springboks game, it would kill me if you came with PC mittens on.
'I'd definitely do it': Ardie gives Tahs licence to sledge over throat-slitting gesture
“Oh please” sent a shiver down my spine. This was the favourite saying of a good mates ex-wife. How we fantasised about burying her at the bottom of the garden. If I hadn’t become such a sedentary old bugger may have followed through.
But back to the point, no process is carved in stone. If by making it an open process you add further credibility to it, remove any doubt as to fairness and have nothing to hide, then why not? Or is it simply because RE has asked for it to be open? If this is the case it speaks to unfairness from the get go.
'No justification for secrecy': Rassie fails in bid to have World Rugby hearing open to public
You presumed incorrectly, no need to apologise.
I would be referring to any individual who holds that a transparent and fair process should be sacrosanct and goes beyond rugby.
There are many South Africans who would definitely not fall into this category. On this forum I am happy to say, they are the exception to the rule.
'No justification for secrecy': Rassie fails in bid to have World Rugby hearing open to public
So you acknowledge that there is a significant difference between “the proceedings will be made public” and what was actually written in the article “full written decision after delivering a verdict“. In which case I accept your apology for the earlier sarcastic remark “mate did you even bother reading it?” have a beer for me (if you can handle drinking with or for a South African) and lets move on.
Has WR indicated that the full transcripts will be made public or is this speculation? This is not most court cases for a number of reasons, thus I for one would like to satisfy myself as to the validity and fairness of the process and sanction.
'No justification for secrecy': Rassie fails in bid to have World Rugby hearing open to public
I am not suggesting the process is not fair as at this point I have seen no evidence either which way. What I am arguing for is the right to see all evidence and come to my own conclusions as to the validity of the sanction and the fairness of the process.
In this case I can see no justifiable reason for not conducting this process in the open to ensure transparency and fairness. Why move around in the shadows if you have nothing to hide?
As mentioned before, I definitely feel that RE has a case to answer for. But to do this behind closed doors is a waste of time as it will be challenged. I for one will add my few cents to any fund challenging this, not because I am a supporter of what RE has done, but because I believe in transparency where ever possible.
'No justification for secrecy': Rassie fails in bid to have World Rugby hearing open to public
So then it is a NZ side with Samu Kerevi. 😂
Time to 'do a Lions' and pick a Southern Hemisphere All Stars to bring four nations together
Sorry Piru I must have my blinkers on as I can’t see anything in the article that says the proceeding will be made public. Please direct me to this.
Maybe you are referring to “full written decision after delivering a verdict”. I hope not, as that is not even close to proceedings are made public.
'No justification for secrecy': Rassie fails in bid to have World Rugby hearing open to public
This is exactly why this process needs to be conducted in the open. So that unemotional rugby fans can apply their intellect to the validity of the judgment against the evidence presented.
We as loyal rugby fans should demand this, there can be no deal between ER and WR. Any deal behind closed doors would see this fan walking away from the game I love.
'No justification for secrecy': Rassie fails in bid to have World Rugby hearing open to public
You see Jez North our histories are not dissimilar (ask your Aboriginal brothers), the only difference being that your ancestors were far better at killing and breeding than mine, hence you became a successful coloniser.
It is debatable as to whether the change was merely to secure our own survival, but what is not debatable is the fact that the change occurred.
But given your virtuous response to Forever Rugby, I look forward to the next man in charge of Australia being of Aboriginal descent (or at least your protest for such change) and a change in folk song from Waltzing Matilda to Midnight Oils – How can we sleep while our beds are burning “The time has come A fact’s a fact It belongs to them Let’s give it back”.
But this is not convenient to talk about, so my recommendation to you Jez North leave history in the past no one has a history that is squeaky clean, especially if you stay in a glasshouse.
Legacies can't be won: History won't look back kindly on Rassie's Springboks