Harry I thought you had massive broad shoulders where are you old son, I hope your not on your way to get your finals tickets, I don’t think they go on sale for 2028 just yet.

And the fact that you actually believe that whites are the only ones that can be racist shows just how blinkered and truly ignorant you truly are, and why there will never truly be equality or racial harmony in this world as long as people like you hold different races to different standards of behaviour.

No he’s pointing out the typical double standards and hypocracy of left leaning people like yourself.

So now your sexist as well assuming Ali is female because you think he/she is thick, really the hypocracy of the left knows no bounds.

Do you think Asians and Africans and Middle Eastern people and Greeks and Italians etc etc etc are exempt from being racist just because they are not white. Go to a business in say Victoria St Richmond and see how multicultural there work force is, or a business run by other non white races and see how many people of different races are employed by them. Sorry to tell the bleeding heart left but we are the least racist of all. Go to non western countries and see how multicultural they are, go and listen in on a conversation by say Greeks and then you will see what real racism is. The left talk about ignorance yet they are the most ignorant and uninformed of us all.

Actually they only had 1 more scoring shot as there where 5 rushed by Carlton.

Do you actually grasp the turnover of players at Carlton in the past 3 years, the list has just been put together and now is when the hard work starts and I emphasise STARTS because this is effectively year 1 of this whole list learning to start playing together, hence the 5 year rebuild not 3. You can judge Bolton, SoS and the whole club when this current list has had a chance to actually play together for more than 5 minutes. We spent 3 years putting the list together and 2 years of that time trying to implement a team defence mindset, now it is time to evolve and grow our game plan as the players learn to play together and learn each other’s nuances. So finally for all you dimwits out there we are right where we should be, again it all starts now so get with the program and back off until it is time to judge the results of 5 years of hard work rebuilding a whole team and football club. This has been the biggest team rebuild ever attempted in terms of player turnover, that has taken courage of the sort most clubs only dream of having the hootspa to try. And we will stick together and finish the job regardless of the outside noise which like most things written and said by commentators and psuedo journos about Carlton is just uninformed knee jerk reaction garbage that has no real relevance to the process the club has had the guts to undertake during a period of unprecedented draft upheaval due to the expansion clubs. So don’t judge a clubs rebuild 2 rounds into there 3rd year it is at best uninformed and short sighted, at worst it is another of the media’s attempt to destabilise a Carlton Football Club trying to rise again, just like they did when they destryoyed Brett Rattens career by unjustified media articles and commentary.

Do you actually grasp the turnover of players in that 3 years, the list has just been put together and now is when the hard work starts and I emphasise starts because this is effectively year 1 of this whole list playing together, hence the 5 year rebuild not 3. You can judge Bolton, SoS and the whole club when this current list has had a chance to actually play together for more than 5 minutes. We spent 3 years putting the list together and 2 years of that time building a team defence mindset, now it is time to add to our game plan as the players learn to play together. So finally for all you dimwits out there we are right where we should be, again it all starts now so get with the program and back off until it is time to judge the results of 5 years of hard work rebuilding a whole team and football club, this has been the biggest team rebuild ever attempted in terms of player turnover, that has taken courage of the sort most clubs only dream of having the balls to try. And we will stick together and finish the job regardless of outside noise which like most things written by commentators and others about Carlton is just uninformed knee jerk reaction garbage.

In the 2 games we played against the drug cheats in 2017 on aggragate we out scored you Harry by 7 points where does that leave you.

How can an Essendon supporter possibly talk about shame, shame is when you are so desperate for any sort of win you give your players unspecified drugs given to them by a film flam man that won’t even tell them what they were given, your disgraceful,shameful football club should have been thrown out of the competitition and sued into bankruptcy by your own players. And still your club and its rabid halfwit supporters complain about persecution by the AFL. You need a reality check, compared to what we copped you got a tap on the wrist for what amounted to human rights offences against your own players.

“Awkward as a Giraffe” have you actually watched him play, and his kicking leg swings like a rusty gate, obviously not or you would have seen the numerous times he took a great contested mark landed like a cat swung onto his rusty gate and delivered the ball lace out into the forward 50 while his opponents where still recovering from the marking contest. Ridiculous comment.

Agree, and you are right about Jaksch thought that as I was writing it but wasn’t to sure.

Spot on Macca but you missed one Garlett was also a first rounder so that makes six first rounders still on list as of now from other clubs, that is smart recruiting and only Sumner & Jaksch have failed so far. That’s 13 first Rd picks in SOS time not including Jaksch & Sumner. A very good start.

I think your all a bit pessimistic myself, you have managed to assemble some of the best young talent in the country, with the help of the afl, which I won’t go into, but anything is possible with this list you have talent on all lines add that to the right game plan and who knows what could be achieved. Brighter days ahead

Exactly why I couldn’t let that comment go unchallenged Macca, what a joke.

Really Lance Whitnell are you for real he held down chf for Carlton as an 18 year old and had more football ability than 90% of players in the game, he just didn’t have the body to go with the talent.

That’s true Peter but they are also pressure forwards which is something Collingwoods smalls are not known for.

Even the most die hard Carlton haters concede that SOS has done an amazing job in building our list over the past 3 years after it was dessimated by Malthouse. We have an extra 6 first round picks on our list as of this years list lodgement thanks to SOS. He managed to repair the mess that was the 2014 draft by adding pick4 Pickett, pick6 Marchbank, pick 15 J Garlett and even added an extra 1st Rd pick no13 in Kennedy to the 3 we had in 2015, added Lang pick 16 from the 2013 draft and Plowman pick 3 from the 2012 draft. So not only has he drafted well from the drafts he has been in charge, he has done a sterling job repairing the past drafts before he was in charge, that is what you call pro-active thinking.
He has built a solid core of players to take Carlton to sustained future success. Just like Geelong and Hawthorn did when they built there cores between the 2001 to 2006 drafts so to has SOS set us up for sustained success over the past 5 drafts it is just a matter of reaping that harvest when it has matured. By the time they all mature the different pieces of Boltons game plan will all be ready to Click into place and all you blind Freddie’s, or in your case half wit harry’s, will be eating your words as the Mighty Blues reap the rewards of the harvest that was fed by all you and others have pored on us since 2002. And we can wait because we know that number 17 will be in the case with the other 16 soon enough. Go Blues

Steve Smith should of enforced the follow on, the game would have been over by the end of the first session on the next day, second session at most which would have given the bowlers a whole extra day of rest between matches to recover. Instead he gifted the Poms with the only conditions that they are capable of bowling effectively in and ressurected what was left of there confidence instead of absolutely crushing them into the Adelaide pitch and destroying there morale for the rest of the series by thrashing them by an innings +.

This error still could come back to bite us later, with that spike in confidence giving England an admittedly delusional idea that they can still win on Australias non English doctored pitches. But unless there pitch doctors can become witch doctors and get our curators to produce one of there specially doctored “as long as England win who cares if the test lasts five days or two days or if it produces an even contest between bat and ball” pitches they have about as much chance of winning as Joe Root does of growing a real moustache anytime soon.
Oh well at least the England team and the Barmy Army got to play the bully, that they like to accuse us of being, for that short period of time. After all we have to give them something or else the whinging whining sooks will take there bat and ball and go home before we have the chance of humiliating them with another 5-0 loss to go with the last one.after all I just think it’s more polite to pair the humiliations up rather than just leaving them with the one to fondly remember there trips down under. It’s just a real shame the down under they got to see was down under the heel of our cricket spikes

Anyway I wish you good luck in Perth England I’m sure your past glories in that beautiful city will hold you in good stead for the upcoming match.

Maybe there pitch/witch doctors can recommend a good medium so they can get some tips from the last English side to win there.

There is no doubt that Fogarty will be a champ. Best player in draft for mine.

This quote might have something to do with it Cat.

“As a 17-year-old bottom-ager last season, De Koning played one of the most dominant games in the TAC Cup, booting nine goals straight to lead the Stingrays to a 99-point victory.”
Also I think clubs are really concerned with Hayes tank. Those are the only things I can think of as to why him and not Hayes.

Let’s take away 2 first round picks a second, and third from you next year and then the year after let’s take your 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks and fine you 1 million dollars and see how long it takes you to recover. In fact let’s do it to Hawthorn they have just come to the end of an era and had most of there senior stars either retire or move on just as Carlton did in 2001. I wonder how long Hawthorn would take to recover from that belting. My guess would be never.

Yeah and Collingwood just announced another financial loss for the year and another year with no finals and haven’t even started the rebuild they will need by the time Buckley is done, not hard to see he learnt under Malthouse, how to destroy a club in three easy steps.

No they play losing football with no game plan and no eye on the future. 22 midfielders won’t win you a game someone should tell Bucks to stop trading in more mids that can’t hit the side of a barn.

Hopefully Renault can build a reliable engine for 2018 with a bit more grunt, that might spice things up a bit. We could have 3 teams fighting it out with luck.