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I loved that cricket match between South Africa and Australia in a 50 over match, back in March 2006 when South Africa made 438 for 9 to beat a careless Australia.
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After hearing recently about Brad Haddin missing for the second Test match due to personal reasons, it got me thinking. As bad as it…
For some months now this has really been annoying me. People often seem to think that South Africa doesn't have many, or any, good…
Recently the 17-man Test squad for Australian's tour of India was announced. The selectors have chosen some rather interesting selections for this up coming…
I would like to think if a player is playing well they should be picked on merit, or at least get mentioned by people…
Just an update for South Africa’s Test Squad in Sri Lanka in July they have picked Dane Piedt and I am over the moon about this !
I am so happy it just shows you that regardless of who you are if you take bags of wickets at a good rate and average then more often than not you will not be ignored in South Africa.
Cricket Australia needs to do the same but the problem is they won’t.
I am wrapped to see Stiaan van Zyl finally get a go after making lots of runs also.
Dane Piedt claimed 45 wickets @19.93.
South African spin bowlers are underrated
You are on the money with that I can think of three that got neglected and called it quits.
Thandi Tshabalala, Paul Adams and Wiann van Zyl.
Thandi Tshabalala had people talking about him being the next big thing but it never happened instead he played some matches for South Africa back in 2007 but he didn’t perform in those too well.
In 2011 he didn’t get a new contract with his franchise team and he retired at age 26.
Wiann van Zyl had a simular fate but he just went missing and vanished at age 23.
Paul Adams kept on having issues of bowling badly towards the end of his career and no one was working alongside with him and he retired at age 31.
Thanks Matthew Buxton.
South African spin bowlers are underrated
That sounds a lot like me being Australian but following South Africa Internationally.
Like you being South African but following Australia and or New Zealand because of your own reasons.
Obviously I am into domestic Cricket in South Africa as well but yet I still also follow the domestic competitions in Australia and as I seem to witness them seeing them play either in person or on the television.
Thanks for your kind words SAFFA28.
South African spin bowlers are underrated
Seriously have a look at how old O’Keefe is getting now.
He should have already played Test matches for Australia by now.
If he doesn’t get selected to be second behind Lyon then something is seriously wrong.
This is coming from a Victorian who knows O’Keefe has played well for awhile now.
I hope it is going to be O’Keefe and Muirhead that are the next two.
This is part of my reason why Cricket Australia made me so disillusioned that I turned my back on the International sides.
Who is Australia's next Test spinner?
Steve O’Keefe is much better in the longer formats.
And all I know is there will come a time when they will need to reward his fine performances.
South African spin bowlers are underrated
I do agree with lots that you have said SAFFA28.
To me I think stats don’t lie but it looks like that is the case sometimes.
All I can hope for is for those three players to keep on doing well and finding form.
And with any luck if one starts to fail but the other two are performing that they get noticed.
I could be wrong but maybe as we speak the selectors could be aware of Von Berg and Piedt.
Robin Peterson won’t be around too much longer which has to be a good thing, don’t get me wrong the guy has proven me wrong a number of times.
One thing I know for sure about Von Berg is that he has the smarts to keep on plugging away even though some of his overs goes for runs and he tightens up and before too long he gets a break through.
I think you may as well give Harmer the gig at Tests and see what he has got and in the meantime you select both Von Berg and Piedt for South Africa A and keep checking on there progress.
It is great to see someone else other than me is passionate about Cricket in South Africa.
South African spin bowlers are underrated
That is interesting indeed SAFFA28.
Could it be though that maybe Piedt and Von Berg haven’t had the chance at the higher level?
I guess you could mean Harmer is the only one who has played for South Africa A so that would be the higher level.
And maybe that is why his Franchise team also made him captain as well.
But I would argue to you though that when I am watching Harmer and Von Berg more often than not in this year or late last year to me Von Berg would more often than not out bowl Harmer.
Maybe one way they could try fixing this is by playing two of them who are all-rounders in South Africa A and see who does better and who knows maybe they would work well in tandem together a Leg Spinner and an Offie at the other end.
I just thought of poor old Thandi Tshabalala who was meant to be the next big thing but his first class stats kept on creeping higher and higher with the ball until one day his Franchise team released him.
I still think Von Berg and Piedt are still playing fairly high level though.
Have you seen these three players at a match in person seeing how well they go?
I am only asking because I haven’t, I only judge on what I see with score updates and who got the wickets.
South African spin bowlers are underrated
As a Victorian and not a New South Welshman it hurts me to say this but I am amazed that Steve O’Keefe isn’t even playing for Australia.
You would think he will replace someone like a Doherty now in the ODI squad.
Also don’t forget Muirhead but I think because he is younger you shouldn’t rush him.
O’Keefe all the way.
South African spin bowlers are underrated
Johnno you are right but they had to play him to see if he was any good, I mean also they had to pick him just because of those numbers and he had at the time Warne like numbers in Domestic cricket.
He is doing well in the shorter forms but in Tests of course he may have ran out of chances.
Also he does have age against him now which you wouldn’t think would help his cause.
South African spin bowlers are underrated
Yes you are right about Dale Deeb he is another one.
As you see there does seem to be a fair few of them.
South African spin bowlers are underrated
I have to say I agree about Symcox, he was an idol for me back then.
Adams was great but poor old Boje did struggle but he had lots of ability with the willow though and I think that is why he played for the International team for so long, but he was better in the short formats.
I didn’t mention Tahir because of his age but he may prove us wrong and start to turn things around.
Also I think spin bowlers in South Africa tend to not be too patient like Claude Henderson.
There was a man named Craig Copeland who should have kept on playing after 2001, it is a shame someone didn’t keep on saying “your playing really well here who knows you could make the international side” his stats are great.
There is new Paul Adams named Tabraiz Shamsi who bowls the same as Adams.
Believe it or not South Africa have a lot more spin bowlers at Domestic level, but I selected the three who I think are mature ahead of the others.
South African spin bowlers are underrated
It maybe a little late for him now that is for sure.
But for awhile there he was in as good enough form as Brad Hodge years ago.
Surprise selections and omissions in the Indian tour squad
I do tend to agree with you he isn’t in good enough form at the moment that is for sure.
Surprise selections and omissions in the Indian tour squad
And by the way I forgot to include O’Keefe to replace Doherty I think that would have been a nice one.
Also I forgot to mention Alex Doolan he must have been close to going as a spare opener.
The good thing with Doolan also is he is a part time wicketkeeper so if an injury poped up on Wade and they didn’t send a second one then they could have had this option.
However they proberly think if Wade gets injured they could send a replacement for him over in India or something.
Surprise selections and omissions in the Indian tour squad
Spot on I couldn’t agree more I would have taken O’Keefe instead of Doherty.
It is still a little bit risky picking Lyon because he just is not performing at all very well at First Class level.
Chris Rogers and Steve O'Keefe deserve to go to India
I will keep on keeping an eye on Chris Hartley seeing how he goes.
I just hope all is not lost.
Chris Hartley: our forgotten keeper
Dane Piedt claimed 45 wickets @19.93 strike rate of 47.7
Simon Harmer claimed 40 wickets @35.72 strike rate of 69.0
Shaun Von Berg claimed 33 wickets @28.84 strike rate of 48.9
The interesting thing is four out of the top five wicket takers from the Sunfoil Series are spin bowlers.
At least Cricket South Africa seem to be doing well with rather good back up spin bowlers.
South African spin bowlers are underrated