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Good lord Kev, I have not said anything of him as a person, I am showing you with the stats Coopers flaws. You blokes will use any angle to bypass facts and defend the bloke that cant defend. Why all the loyalty, its not like he is the best 10 Aus has produced (even whn on fire)

Cooper is a flawed x-factor player with rugby ego problems, who is a poor defender, not average, poor. He make 2-3 times the amount of mistakes top 6 fly halves make and the most of all teams playing.

Yet you all by pass this with some excuse but wont allow a single excuse to be made for MT??? Its bewildering…

SPIRO: The Brumbies and Reds are bound for Super Rugby finals glory

Of the top 6 sides the reds are 5th in the try department only beating the Bulls by 1. Please stop this dream that Reds are cutting teams appart. The only time they score tries outside of the “10 man” game is when the back join the maul.

SPIRO: The Brumbies and Reds are bound for Super Rugby finals glory

Whatever man, you not going to open your eyes, you just make statements with nothing to back them up. Brumbies backline is far more dangerous this year scoring 9 more tries then the same time last year. Coopers form was poor last year you simply dont want to know about it. you by pass all the stats I give you and simply revert to the tackle on Rene and Coopers long pass.

When the fact remains with is glorious long pass they arnt setting the world on fire!

SPIRO: The Brumbies and Reds are bound for Super Rugby finals glory

PeterK “so the only really good tacklers out of the list of flyhalfs with very good long passes are Carter and CL!

Funny how having a long playmaking pass is more important than tackling for a flyhalf if you want to use your backline that is).”

You make it sound like the reds are ripping teams appart with their backline dont buy into McKenzie bs. Reds are below average In scoring tries. Coopers long pass is not helping players over the line. Toomau is putting player over the line so can claim more running then cooper. AND HE IS SOLID AND CAN DEFEND.

SPIRO: The Brumbies and Reds are bound for Super Rugby finals glory

Peter you do know that rugby players make tackles, its nothing special making a tackle, pointing out 5 that he made does not make him a good defender, the FACT that he missed 20 out of 60 makes him a poor defender.

SPIRO: The Brumbies and Reds are bound for Super Rugby finals glory

I question I have for RD or Roarers (experienced ones please), Australian teams are looking very sharp compared to NZ and SA with all these players pushing for BIL spots it almost has a feel like Australian teams/Players are all peaking very early in the season (at least faster then SA and NZ), has this been part of the plan, have the super coaches pushed to get players to the mark slightly earlier and if so how would this be managed during the Rugby Championship and EOY tours?

DEANS: It's up the ante time for Australian rugby

Cooper stands on 14 errors for the comp, the closest I could find out of the other teams where Foley on 9. Cooper made zero mistakes on friday and had a great game but he is still the leader in mistakes. I am not saying JOC should be 10, I am saying Toomua should be.

Why only compare JOC and Cooper on the last weekend, why not Toomua? Out of the three 10 Toomua was the better. Sure cooper has experience but not very good experience at international level. Sure he combines well with Ginia but you cant plan a team around two for one deals, each player must carry his own weight.

SPIRO: The Brumbies and Reds are bound for Super Rugby finals glory

Your nit picking and did not address any of my questions? He makes too many mistakes and will be found out at test level again. If your aim is simply to fire off arguments then that’s your problem. I have legitimate questions and issues to talk about.

SPIRO: The Brumbies and Reds are bound for Super Rugby finals glory

What actually “is” kev is that cooper is has made the most mistakes of any of the 10’s in the top 8 teams perhaps the comp. So tell me am I still reacting?

SPIRO: The Brumbies and Reds are bound for Super Rugby finals glory

For my part if he makes so many mistakes at super level, its going to be bigger at test level and cost more. With his manager you can never know if he will honor his contracts, if the reds fail after McKenzies departure will Cooper stay on and fight? Will he take more boxing gigs at a cost of starting the season slower? Will he stay focus on and of the field? What happens if Ginia get injured or departs? Does he have the ability to fit properly into another team environment?

i don’t hate the guy, I just don’t like so many questions around a player in the wallabies, not when there are plenty of choices without the baggage.

He is a talent but a costly one in a time when talent is rife.

SPIRO: The Brumbies and Reds are bound for Super Rugby finals glory

My dislike for Cooper is not baseless Red Kev, he has given plenty of reasons for people worry. You don’t have to take an aggressive stand mate, I am just having a chat.

Cooper still makes to many mistakes for a pivot. Wallabies don’t need a back line with 5 play makers. With Ginia at 9, JOC on one of the wings and Mogg at the back you need someone solid at 10.

I have never mentioned toxic comments so don’t know what you are on about. The whole of Australia thinks Ginia should be 9 but why do you think people are so divided on the Cooper part?

SPIRO: The Brumbies and Reds are bound for Super Rugby finals glory

PeterK what does that make McKenzie and Horwil’s comments post reds v brumbies game?

Blues praise Reds' Super defence

I was responding to Red Block, I suppose Chivas has less patients for blog structure then he has for bad english.

Brumbies thrash Force 41-7 in Super Rugby

Bravo Chiva, you are special. Well written, funny and witty.

Blues praise Reds' Super defence

Perhaps you should stick to snobby English professor blog sites, instead of roaming sports pages boasting your superior capabilities, enforcing the law like some impotent english teacher with nothing better to do on a sunday morning.

Do you have anything to add about sport, seeing as we are actually on a sports page? Or will you simply point our my mistakes to elevate yourself above me as more intellectual?

Brumbies thrash Force 41-7 in Super Rugby

Who is blowing valves now, professor Chivas?

Brumbies thrash Force 41-7 in Super Rugby

I didn’t blow a valve, no need to go over bored. And the day your second language is better then mine you can give me English lessons

Brumbies thrash Force 41-7 in Super Rugby

Well Chivas I speak three languages, English not being my first. I don’t really see what your objection is for?

Nothing white or the Brumbies do seems good enough, yet reds scraping seems gutsy and brave. Every move Mkenzie makes is a master stroke, and anything White does needs more question, dodgy conservative and so on.

Would it not be nice of a reds fan to say “hell what a display by the Burmbies” no its needs a sub comment about “lucky, boring, cynical or the other guys where crap”

Brumbies thrash Force 41-7 in Super Rugby

Mckenzie should take a note JK’s approach instead of laying the blame on anyone else but his team and being left red faced when his statements look lost 7days later.

How dumb does his “brumbies are boring” comment look now?

Blues praise Reds' Super defence

Hell even the bulls out entertained the Reds this weekend.

Well done Brumbies, let your rugby do the talking, leave the whinging to the reds coaching staff, fans, and me 🙂

Brumbies thrash Force 41-7 in Super Rugby

A draw at suncorp is a win for any team but the reds. And saying “the jury is still out” is low level sour grapes by Reds supporters. The Brumbies have silenced their critics with that ruthless display. Attack, defense, kicking… they did it all and they did it well.

Reds could not score a single try, brumbies put ice on horwil and Mckenzie with 6 tries. Brumbies now lead the reds with 28-20 tries scored. 2 Brumbies in the top 10 try scorers with not a single reds player.

Brumbies thrash Force 41-7 in Super Rugby

Its a bit cheeky of Ewen to complain about something his team is just as guilty at, its tactical, smart but wonder if its good.

Brumbies, Reds rugby coaches swap barbs

So you have a guy who cant defend, only plays well when the worlds best 9 plays inside him and is at best 50/50 in his consistency and someone wants to suggest he is one of Aus best 10. How sad, what is worse is that cooper is rated top 3 10 in Aus at the moment.

Cooper misses out on the Wallabies camp

Its funny how quickly people in Australia swing their opinions.

If it where the reds, there would be a list of reason, accepted and forgiven. Lets not forget they have not yet lost a game. Every single team in this com will have bad games. Its ridiculous to suggest their “bubble has burst”.

They had a bad game, probably didn’t prepare right, under estimated the Kings, rested players and shuffled the back line.

Its a bit early to doom the Brumbies who still sit easy at the top of the log.

I think its the right time for a wake up call yes, better now then at the end of the season when its knockout time.

CL had one bad game at 10 and still did not lose the game for the brumbies, how many bad games of Cooper has cost the Reds and the Wallabies.

Bursting the Brumbies' bubble

Red Menace this must be around the time you tell us QC is the only option?

Again using your logic QC is just as bad…

7 games each:

Line breaks
QC 3 CL 2
Try assist
QC 3 CL 2
Runs
QC 41 (262) CL 41 (289)
Points
QC 65 CL 87
Kicks from hand
QC 49 CL 15
Tackles missed
QC 14 CL 7
Handling errors
QC 12 CL 9

Dont fool yourself with one bad game at 10 by CL, its far less than QC bad game count.

Reshuffled back line and first game at 10 is more then enough reason for an excuse. CL did not have a terrible game but did not have a great game either. The Kings defense was awesome.

I was waiting for the QC fans to jump the gun on this one.

Brumbies shock draw shows rugby stats ain't the whole picture

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