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Nice comment John. Absolutely correct and have you ever asked the question WHY? The answer is that the coaches are responsible for their own rule changes & they are not held accountable for the damage they cause ie; pathetic scrums, excessive dummy half runs, monotenus hit syndrome, exploiting the ingoal with grubs, Sloppy play the balls, Illegal tactics to slow the play the ball down, Head slamming, Ever increasing high tackles, The problem of lifting knees, Voluntary tackles, Steroid abuse, The Grapple Tackle & all its cousins, as well as, reducing the modern forward to nothing but battering rams or wrecking balls. This game was designed & presented to them before they went down that road. The day of reckoning is coming. All this is designed to confuse the refrees so they can gain an advantage. The referees have been told since the 70’s to reduce the amount of penalties (don’t want to be like Union) & the coaches know it so they push it to the nth dgree.
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NO i don’t advocate touch on steroids that is the N.R.L that is what you are watching now, seems that people make comments without actually digesting the info & understanding what would be achieved by this concept. My game is designed to reverse the damage that they have done to the way the game is played on the field. Actual fact they knew about this since 1992 & deliberately destroyed the fabrics of the real game, to run at the gap between defenders draw & pass to promote the ball & not the wrecking ball. My rules can’t be as physical as the 13 man/10m game because a defence won’t be able to afford more than 2 in a tackle (however, this is not legislated) because with the reduced numbers (10 players & 5m defence line) an off load whilst having 2 or more players attempting to complete a tackle & the defencive line can be very quickly put under a lot of pressure. Basic numbers to space equation.
So 1 on 1 & effective tackling technique will be required to use the least amount of defenders in each tackle & not the gang tackle with the slow 1 by 1 peel off to slow the ruck down to enable the defencive line to reset.
With no markers & a dummy half (caught with the ball turnover) the players effecting the last tackle are off side (out of play) until they have been run on side by them retiring to the forward moving defencive line, when the both meet the tacklers from the previous tackle are then on side.
I know it is hard for people to understand because they haven’t yet seen it played & they have had to endure the crap that the N.R.L have dished up. They haven’t had anything to compare with, the N.R.L have made sure of that because this wasn’t their idea. Please do me a favour before any of you post a comment talk to someone who played the game in the 80’s run these rules by them get their opinion engage them in the debate. These rules aren’t just for the sake of someone having a whinge these rules have been submitted to the highest levels of the game. They have been around since 1992. The N.R.L are threatened by them because they are at this present time experimenting their own version of what has been posted on this site (F.Y.I). For the past 2 seasons they have played their version of my rules in the South Sydney 1st division. Lets keep it real, it is coming. T.V executives love this concept 3x30min periods 60 sec play clocks plus plenty of viewer & spectator interaction. It is coming.
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Have any of you guys that are referring this format to touch actually played touch or played under the 5m rule (the game b4 they stuffed it up). The object in touch; quick play the ball with 1 out sorties mostly running from dummy half up the guts to get the defence on the back foot whilst the ref tells players to stay out of it in the ruck because the are off side because of the voluntary tackle to get the roll. Then when they have had enough quick up the guts sorties to draw more defenders in from the edges then they will spread it wide. Sounds like the N.R.L format to me.
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Thanks Jake, you are correct it is quite a difficult task to turn around the damage that administrators & coaches have done to the game since this format was first presented to them in 1992. However, i am very confident that once played & once spectated that the tide can be turned. Spoke with Perry Haddock last week inventor of OZ TAG who played 1st grade for Saints early mid 80’s has a 12 & 14 year boys starting to consider giving up on the game because they don’t wont to get physically bashed. All i am asking for is the chance to turn theory into practice. Did you know that the A.R.L development panel have been playing most of these ideas with their own modifications (so it was their idea) in the South Sydney 1st division because 2 years ago they had waning participation. When the introduced the concept locally they had a 300% increase
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The 10metre rule, ironically designed to open the game up, is the most recent of monumental blunders. The 10metre rule was never tested or trailed & when implemented created the low risk, high gain attitude, naturally adopted by coaches. Natural human instinct would prevail, offering the gift of gaining easy go forward by having the defence in the impossible situation of not being able to get on side unless they, SLOW DOWN, THE PLAY the BALL, with ILLEGAL TACTICS; the adverse effects of this rule have been devastating. Without question or argument the 10m rule has been the worst rule change in the history of RUGBY LEAGUE. The I0metre rule saw the introduction of the HIT UP SYNDROME with the spectator subjected to an overwhelming percentage of possession used with 1 OUT HIT UPS & excessive dummy half runs. (TOUCH ON STEROIDS). Since the introduction of the 10metre rule RUGBY LEAGUE has been portrayed as nothing but a physical, less skilful contest with an extremely high degree of repetition. Players continuously run into each other, (HIT UPS & GANG TACKLES).
With minimum regard for the protection of the head, (NO SAFE PLAY CODE), & cheap head shots common practice. With Referees setting BAD PRECEDENT, preferring to place illegalities on report, rather than acting on a breach with true on field, on the spot justice. Placing a player on report and awarding a penalty has very little impact on the offending team. This is why players are contemptuous towards referees & the actual framework of the rules. These are just a few areas of DECAY that are resulting in REDUCED PARTICIPATION LEVELS, with parents of future possible candidates of the sport refusing to allow their kids to participate.
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Thanks anyway Jay, the 10m rule changed the fundamentals of the game turning forwards into wrecking balls & being coached not to pass the ball. Interesting comments i wonder sometimes the age of the people placing comments because they either haven’t played the game pre 10m rule or have not seen footage of games pre 10m rule.
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Thanks for the comment, Brendan. Have they really rectified the problems that the coaches brought to the game by introducing wrestling coaches & tactics to slow down the play the ball by adding another referee are we watching U.F.C or W.W.F why haven’t the coaches been held accountable for this slur on our game.
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Interesting comment that the difference between the 40/20 & a 50/20 is arbitrary. It must be remembered (considered) that the original 50/20 presented to the A.R.L late 1992 was modified to fit into their 13man 10m game because they liked the original so much. Please remember this about the 50/20, 3 less players (10men) defending the kick is harder which also opens up the defencive line, if the kicker sees the kick being covered there will be less men in the defencive line to run the ball, or change the kick to a grub & regather. Secondly a reward for the successful kick with a tap & 3 plays-10 on 10 from 20 out with a try worth 5 points, (hopefully that covered the why).
DROP BALL-this rule was introduced last year because the refs have taken the soft option of calling every ball that goes to ground a knock-on which results in another one of those b_s_e_d_s_d scrums. A repeat set of 6 back to back on offer if you move the entire length of the field with ball movement (because 10m@5m with the hit up syndrome of today will see a gain of 15 to 20m, under this format they will actually have to draw defenders & pass the ball. Why in today’s rules can they receive another set of 6 when they have been camped in the attacking half & the defence has kept them out?
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UPL the 10 a side @ 5m defence rules for Rugby League wrote the following & submitted to all NRL officials as far back as 1998 after the Super League Tri Series final debacle that extended the game to 104 mins of played time to have the result decided by the field goal.
***DURING FINALS & REPRESENTATIVE GAMES ONLY.
In the event of a drawn game after 90 or 80 minutes of regular time, EXTRA TIME will be played out as follows:
10min EACH WAY if required. There will be a 5 minute break before the restart and after the 1st 10 minutes of EXTRA TIME, if so required.
A total of 20min-: 10min EACH WAY, of complete play time will be played out in EXTRA TIME, if so required.
The team that scored the 1st TRY of the match will receive the ball from the kick-off starting the EXTRA TIME period.
Teams can start the EXTRA TIME PERIOD with any 10 of their available players (players that have been DOUBLE FOULED out of the game cannot participate in the EXTRA TIME period).
There will be no interchanges during the EXTRA TIME period; this will add a fatigue factor.
If EXTRA TIME has been played out with no team scoring, the team that scored the most trys in regular time will be declared the winner of the match.
However, if both teams had scored the same amount of trys in regular time and are still dead locked after extra time the team that scored the 1st try of the game will be declared the match winner.
During the (SUDDEN DEATH EXTRA TIME PERIOD) there will be; ‘NO FIELD GOALS’ & “THE 1st TRY SCORED” will determine the match winner – ‘SUDDEN DEATH’.
Memo to the NRL: A draw is a proper result