West Sydney franchises need to find star power
By Adrian Musolino, 6 Oct 2009 Adrian Musolino is a Roar Expert
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Liverpool's Robbie Fowler celebrates scoring the third goal against 1. FC Kosice during the UEFA Cup, first round, second match at Liverpool's Anfield stadium Tuesday Sept. 29, 1998. AP Photo/Adam Butle
They say the Sydney sporting market is one of the most competitive in the world. Rather, it’s one of the most fickle sporting markets, with such incredible fluctuations in crowd figures across all codes.
But, aside from form, the presence of a star name is the only guarantee of increasing, or at least stabilising crowds, no matter the code.
The Sydney Swans have been great proponents of this, bringing in established names such as Warwick Capper, Tony Lockett, Dermott Brereton and Barry Hall to help increase the profile of the Swans in Rugby’s heartland.
Sydney FC’s decision to sign Dwight Yorke as their first marquee player was an inspired decision that reaped enormous benefits to the franchise, on and off the field.
It’s no surprise that Sydney FC’s biggest crowd of this season was against North Queensland Fury, despite the fact the A-League debutants were floundering at the bottom of the ladder.
It was Robbie Fowler that drew the crowd – over 6,000 more than the ‘derby’ against Newcastle the following week; such is the power of a star name in Sydney.
It is partly the reason why Sydney FC’s crowd has somewhat gone missing compared to Yorke’s days.
John Aloisi will forever be recognised in Australian sporting folklore for THAT penalty against Uruguay, but he doesn’t have the pulling power to attract casual supporters, especially those who prefer their European football.
But how will the western Sydney franchises, in both the AFL and A-League, learn from and adopt this lesson when building their clubs?
Both took enormous steps in their infantile stages last week with the ‘Sydney Rovers’ granted the twelfth franchise in the A-League for 2011 and the AFL’s Western Sydney joining the TAC Cup under 18 competition next season.
It will be difficult for the pair to distinguish themselves from Sydney FC and the Sydney Swans, and with all the doubts about the potential for franchises in the west of the city, it’s interesting that the reported name and branding for the A-League franchise – Sydney Rovers – avoids the mention of ‘West’ or ‘Western’.
While the huge population geographical area of western Sydney gives the second Sydney franchises a distinct advantage over Melbourne’s second A-League franchise, for example, the negative perceptions which have been labelled against the potential of the region to sustain these clubs could be impacting how they are branded.
They will be hoping this generic Sydney branding will help them entice disgruntled fans from the original Sydney franchises, but the western franchises need to find something big to differentiate themselves.
At a minimum, they need a star name that will make such a difference in the NSW market.
The problem is western Sydney doesn’t exactly have the glitz, glamour and appeal of a Surfers Paradise, for example.
Without huge financial incentives, what will attract established stars to west Sydney?
Gold Coast, and the AFL for that matter, should be applauded for their vision in snaring Karmichael Hunt from the NRL; an established star name in the state guaranteed to command headlines.
Jarryd Hayne may have signed on for an extra four years at the Parramatta Eels, but will West Sydney, and the AFL, follow the same path as the Gold Coast and look to the NRL?
A Gary Ablett, Chris Judd or the like may signal the franchise’s intentions, but their impact may be limited in a region that doesn’t appreciate their true status within the game.
West Sydney may be a long-term work in progress for the AFL, but it needs to make some sort of an immediate impact.
As for the Sydney Rovers, thankfully they have the time until 2011 to start scouring the Socceroos ranks and European leagues for their marquee.
It’s a simple equation for clubs and codes of our nations most populous city. Open the chequebook and get yourself a star that shines brighter than the Opera House.
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albe said | October 6th 2009 @ 4:07am | Report comment
I think Rovers need a ‘marquee’ who’ll impress the fans who already know the game. Doesn’t need to be a Yorke type glamour player or even a Fowler.
As an example (these guys would be too old) but someone like a Vieri or a Davids, whose got experience and is well-known among your rusted-on world football fan. These fans will be the core of the club i reckon, there’s thousands of diehard football fans in the region already. Tap into this and its job done.
That being said, one Harry Kewell will do quite nicely also
Freud of Football said | October 6th 2009 @ 4:25am | Report comment
It’s sad that I had to nod in agreeance with 99% of what you wrote but it’s true, Aussies won’t come out to the football unless there is a big name involved.
That being said, I hardly think a Gary Ablett or Chris Judd would be willing to leave the AFL, in fact I can’t picture any AFL player crossing codes, AFL is the country’s greatest sport and as such its sportsmen, particularly the elite are afforded hero status. A lot more people know the name Chris Judd than they do Jarryd Hayne for example and I can’t see any AFL player giving it up on a whim as the money can’t be that good due to the salary cap.
The one advantage that West Sydney most definately has is the love and passion for the game in the area. It can’t be too difficult for the new franchise to (or should I say they’d have to screw it up pretty big to not) bring these people in and make them fans, if they play their cards right they should get a sell-out every week.
You mentioned the Swans bringing in “big names” which I find interesting. Capper was never a big name, he was just a show-pony, Brereton played 7 games in two seasons and was well past his best and Hall was an up-and-comer still making a name for himself (167 goals in 88 games for the saints compared to 467 in 162 with Sydney) so only really Plugger fits that category of “bringing them in for crowd pulling power.”
However again using the Swans as an example – look where it got them. They had Lockett and who else? What did it get them? They never won anything by bringing in these names (Hall took years to bring them success) and if anything shot themselves in the foot.
Wayne Carey was exactly the same when he went to the Crows in that god-forsaken trade, he was old and past his best by a long-long way and the crows under the idiotic leadership of Ayres threw away a #2 draft pick for a name when they still had enough talent for another tilt at a flag if they had of recruited wisely.
Point being? Well it’s nice to have a name but football, as with AFL is a team game and while a big name might put bums on seats for a while, not winning will promptly see those bums leave the seats. Focus on recruiting a team, not a name or a collection of recognisable players, that’s the way to make the new franchise successful.
AndyRoo said | October 6th 2009 @ 9:06am | Report comment
Plugger with Roos was the turning point for the Swans (they made the 96 grand final). Plugger is much loved because he was actually good and provided some great memories (prelim final against Essendon). The others (Brereton and Capper) probably hurt the club in the long run.
No one wants to support a joke. Getting a Rugby League or AFL player would be just about the worst thing Rovers could do. West Sydney is not some hick football area that doesn’t know the offside rule, the place is full of goal posts. Nicky Carle strikes me as a good guy to go after and bring home.
The desire for a big name is more that it sells the league. It gives you a barometer of quality and that one good name sort of shows this is fair dinkum. And contrary to what a lot of people think there are some nice areas to live in West Sydney. Even Campbelltown, which has probably the lowest public perception, has a nice half. Brett Hodgsen lists Campbelltown as his favourite holiday destination J
I would really love too see them get a sponsor for their youth team and enter them into the comp next year.
“Focus on recruiting a team, not a name or a collection of recognisable players, that’s the way to make the new franchise successful”
Spot on
megatron said | October 6th 2009 @ 9:15am | Report comment
True but Sydney FC are winning this year and yet the crowds aren’t back to the Version I levels yet. Someone like Dwight Yorke makes a big difference.
AndyRoo said | October 6th 2009 @ 10:59am | Report comment
Because there Eastern Sydney yupees
cab711 said | October 6th 2009 @ 11:26am | Report comment
I wonder which Sydney FC player will be the first to play for the Rovers? Will he feel the love like Kruse did?
AndyRoo said | October 6th 2009 @ 11:55am | Report comment
Much more likely players will go the other way, except for the first year where Rovers will grab a few of the kids that are on the bench at present or in and out of their side.
It will be much better for the rivalry if it’s a constant poaching of West Sydney players than the other way arround.
sam.gilbert said | October 6th 2009 @ 11:20pm | Report comment
“The one advantage that West Sydney most definately has is the love and passion for the game in the area. It can’t be too difficult for the new franchise to (or should I say they’d have to screw it up pretty big to not) bring these people in and make them fans, if they play their cards right they should get a sell-out every week.”
are you talking about AFL or football here? if AFL, you’re dead wrong. noone could give a toss about AFL ou this way. even rugby union isn’t popular-the two worst clubs throughout colts and grade are penrith and parra- by a long shot. rugby league is by far the biggest sport, and then football because of the huge ethnic culture in some parts. but as for AFL, no chance.
AFL is clearly trying to crack a big and potentially lucrative market by gicing west sydney a team, they are not giving a team to an AFL-loving area.
Freud of Football said | October 6th 2009 @ 11:42pm | Report comment
Obviously I’m talking about football. They wouldn’t try and bring in AFL fans and convert them into their own fans would they now? Especially when there are so few?
sam.gilbert said | October 7th 2009 @ 4:42pm | Report comment
well the preceding paragraph was about afl. so was the one after it.
Dickroo said | October 6th 2009 @ 7:57am | Report comment
one word: Kewell.
kenny said | October 6th 2009 @ 7:59am | Report comment
but true to the point in the A-League a lot of people turn up to see the marquee player/s and if there isnt one then the team will struggle to get that extra public support. market is too saturated in sydney for all the codes anyway.
Simmo said | October 6th 2009 @ 8:10am | Report comment
Harry! Harry Kewell!
Harry! Harry Kewell!
cab711 said | October 6th 2009 @ 11:31am | Report comment
Meh, rather see Kanu, Cocu or Figo than Harry Kewell in a WS team. See Kewell all the time out West. Used to see him at Merrylands Subway all the time. Would be happy to bump into Zidane at Westfields Parra for once.
AndyRoo said | October 6th 2009 @ 11:45am | Report comment
“Would be happy to bump into Zidane at Westfields Parra for once”
post of the year
Analogue Cheese said | October 23rd 2009 @ 3:59pm | Report comment
Lionel Messi as marquee for the WS AFL club’s inaugural season. That’s their only hope for a half decent crowd.
Pippinu said | October 23rd 2009 @ 4:03pm | Report comment
I don’t think the average Australian knows who Lionel Messi is.
Furthermore, there is some doubt as to whether he can kick a footy.
Robbos said | October 23rd 2009 @ 4:15pm | Report comment
Futhermore, I doubt the AFL would even come close to being able to afford Messi.
Pippinu said | October 23rd 2009 @ 4:34pm | Report comment
That’s certainly true.
melbvictory87 said | October 6th 2009 @ 9:59pm | Report comment
harry is god!
The Bear said | October 6th 2009 @ 8:28am | Report comment
Do we want a situation where, like Brisbane Roar, perhaps half of the players are actually based at the Gold Coast. It’s a shallow feeling when your players don’t even live in the region they are playing for. Harry Kewell? Would he actually live on the north shore and commute? If he did, what kind of message is that going to send to the kids and fans of the new club?
Their marquee and other players must be locally based.
AndyRoo said | October 6th 2009 @ 9:08am | Report comment
Their are plenty of nice areas within West Sydney for them to live. If they wan’t to live near the beach though I think it will still be fine for them to commute.
The Wests Tigers chose their leichart base because it would be easier to recruit and it hasn’t hurt their appeal in West Sydney.
The Bear said | October 6th 2009 @ 12:27pm | Report comment
Yeah, the more I ponder it, the analogy to BrisRoar is not that accurate. Sydney FC and Sydney Rovers may be only slightly geographically distinct. They are both still “Sydney”. And Brisbane and Gold Coast are probably geographically and culturally far more identifiably recognisable.
AGO74 said | October 6th 2009 @ 11:24am | Report comment
“The Sydney Swans have been great proponents of this, bringing in established names such as Warwick Capper, Tony Lockett, Dermott Brereton and Barry Hall to help increase the profile of the Swans in Rugby’s heartland.”
If you are an AFL or football journalist in Australia, is the constant incorrect referencing to western Sydney as a “rugby heartland” a genuine mistake or some other attempt to somehow belittle rugby league??! Any Australian sports journo with half a brain knows that western Sydney is rugby league mecca, and that rugby union in the greater west has about as big an imprint as AFL presently does. (Sorry Adrian – not just picking on you here as there are many others)
Other than that, I don’t disagree that Sydney is a fickle market and both West Sydney Rovers and the new AFL team will have to do the same to succeed.
Adrian Musolino said | October 6th 2009 @ 11:49am | Report comment
I’m not referring to west Sydney as a Rugby heartland. In that quote I’m talking about the Sydney Swans, hence not specifically west Sydney.
The Bear said | October 6th 2009 @ 12:22pm | Report comment
Is Sydney the ARU’s heartland? I always thought Brisbane and Canberra shared the mantle for Union’s lifeblood.
melbvictory87 said | October 6th 2009 @ 10:01pm | Report comment
ago74 what is the difference its the same thing pretty much
M1tch said | October 31st 2009 @ 6:59pm | Report comment
nope its not
rugby league and rugby union are 2 very different sports..
if you say rugby..its rugby union
league means rugby league
AGO74 said | October 6th 2009 @ 12:52pm | Report comment
Thanks for the clarification Adrian. Even when expanding it to all of Sydney (or NSW & Qld for that matter) the term “rugby heartland” is not really correct. Anyway, I think we have different points of view on this, so let’s not get bogged down in it.
Bear – The only rugby heartland I can think of is probably the north shore of Sydney, but it is pretty evident when you look at the Broncos, let alone at SOO time, that Brisbane is definitely a rugby league town.
On another point, it appears from a distance that the AFL are heavily influencing the rules to give GC and West Sydney almost instant success when they enter the comp. What do fans in traditional areas – or for that matter Swans and Lions fans – think of this?
The Bear said | October 6th 2009 @ 2:41pm | Report comment
Lots has changed over the last 10 to 15 years. As much as Brisbane could be viewed as a League town, and Queensland whole hearted support of SoO, the grass roots (especially in the secondary schooling system) is Rugby Union. Amateur Clubs create a link for young adolescents. Queensland Reds get reasonably good support, for a national league that competes head on with League season. Sydney is far more localised geographically from what i have gathered.
Matt S said | October 6th 2009 @ 12:58pm | Report comment
Hazem El Masri could still kick a ball around for a season. What a coup that would be!
Forgetmenot said | October 6th 2009 @ 11:22pm | Report comment
Another great article Adrian.
The idea of a ‘Star’ player is something that a couple of people in the media have been talking about in relation to Barry Hall leaving the Swans. They have basically been wondering who will be replacing Hall as the Swans ‘Star’ player.
I for one feel that they need a player who has already established themselves a ‘media whore’. But it also needs to be someone who grabs the headlines for the right reasons. A player from Sydney would be the obvious choice, but if that cannot happen, it would probably best be a player whose not from Victoria.
Has anyone heard anymore on the Roy Masters created rumour of a second league player converting to football?