Laver, not Federer, is the greatest ever player
By Spiro Zavos, 10 Feb 2011 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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In February of last year (note the date), John McEnroe declared: “Roger Federer is just the greatest player of all time.” He went to explain why he had come to this conclusion.
“He is the most beautiful player I’ve ever seen and I don’t get tired of watching him. Rod Laver is my idol, Pete Sampras is the greatest grass court player ever, but Roger Federer is just the greatest player of all … I would probably say the 23 semis or better in straight Majors in a row is the best record of them all.”
McEnroe was talking to the Swiss media before his own appearance in a new APT Champions Tour event in Zurich.
There may have been an element of telling the local media what they want to hear in McEnroe’s pitch. It also came at a time when Rafael Nadal was struggling with injury, which allowed Federer to take out his first French Open, a tournament that Nadal had dominated over Federer for years.
You wonder if McEnroe would make the same sort of sweeping statement now that Federer has been overwhelmed in the latest Australian Open.
There was discussion in the commentary box that unless Federer moved to a more powerful racquet, his days of winning Grand Slam tournaments might be over.
If Federer does not win another Grand Slam tournament he will finish with 16 Grand Slam tournaments, two more than won by Sampras. How will this effect how future generations look on his record? And what if Nadal actually wins a calendar year Grand Slam?
The point about all this is designations of “the greatest” tend to be a moveable feast. There are very few sportsmen or women whose career records can be expected to stand into the foreseeable future, if not forever. Don Bradman’s batting statistics will never be emulated.
Probably, too, no female tennis player will ever win 24 Grand Slam titles, like Margaret Court.
Although, Steffi Graff came close with 22 titles.
In the men’s, Nadal, particularly, and possibly Federer, will improve on his current record. How many more Grand Slam titles, though, is the crucial point.
Nadal would need to double his present collection, in my opinion, to be in the running. And even then there would be serious impediments to his claims.
Those impediments go to the type of game he plays, which is essentially defensive, retrieving everything from the baseline or many metres behind it, and using the angles to hit final, conclusive winners.
When you are talking about the greatest in anything (I know this is all subjective) a crucial consideration has to be the style of the person concerned. The greatest tennis player, in this sort of calculation, needs to have all-court, varied game with strengths in every aspect of play.
This sort of dictate eliminates Pete Sampras, for instance.
It is fatal, right now to any consideration of Nadal (although the proviso here is that he is in the middle of his career). And it makes the case for Roger Federer (not finished in his career but closer to its end than its middle) doubtful, too.
Look at Federer’s record and you find he has won six Wimbledon’s, five US Opens, four Australian Opens and one French Open.
Compare with Rod Laver, my nomination for the greatest tennis player of them all: four Wimbledons, three Australian Opens, two US Opens and two French Opens.
Laver was terrific on every surface.
He also won two Grand Slams, as an amateur in 1962 and as a professional in his next chance in 1969. As a professional, he won every major title in 1967, the so-called “Professional Slam.” Ken Rosewell was the only other professional to achieve this in 1963.
Did Laver have the all-court game we demand from ‘the greatest?
The famous broadcaster, Dan Maskell, opined: “Laver was technically faultless, from his richly varied serve to his feather-light touch on drop volleys plus a backhand drive carrying destructive topspin when needed or controlling slice when the occasion demanded it.”
I had the pleasure of watching Laver make his professional debut in White City against Lew Hoad. Hoad, a tremendously talented player and on his day totally dominant, won in two sets to one. But as soon as Laver got up to pace with the professional game, he then consistently defeated Hoad and Rosewell and the other talents on show night after night around the world.
There is a very detailed analysis of GOATS, Greatest Of All Time, on Wood Tennis. It runs to over 20 pages of text. J.Oesch, the author, lists his greatest in this order: Rod Laver, Bill Tilden, Pancho Gonzales, Don Budge, Randall Vines, Jack Kramer, Roger Federer, Pete Sampras, Fred Perry, Ken Rosewall, John McEnroe, Bjorn Borg, Lew Hoad, Rafael Nadal.
This list is unduly biased, in my view, to the eras before tennis became an open game. The modern players like Federer, Nadal, Aggasi and Lendl should deserve a higher ranking.
Before tennis became an open game the dominant tennis countries (aside from France in the 1920s) were the United States and Australia. But as the last Australian Open demonstrated, there are a number of other countries (which provided no champions before the open era) that have emerged as tennis powers.
The effect of this is to increase the competition. So a grand slam victory now is achieved against opponents from a much wider world of talent than in the past.
Having said that, I once saw Gonzales, well past his prime, playing at Wellington in a familiar gale. Gonzales served heavily-spun balls that bounced so high they were unplayable by his opponents. He had a lethal, cat-like agility and a variety of shots that has probably never been equalled. He was a big man, too, and could turn on the power when he wanted to.
My guess is that Gonzales and Hoad were the two greatest players at their best on their day. But as longevity and dominance over a period of years must be part of the final consideration, together with the accumulation of trophies, neither can be the all-time number one. Gonzales was eight times world professional champion. But most of the the best players at the time were amateurs.
Laver’s first grand slam in 1962 did not involve the professional players, who were then much better than the amateurs. But his second grand slam in 1969, when tennis became an open sport, was achieved against the best of the former professionals and amateurs.
So he has my vote for the greatest tennis player ever.
So far …
Spiro Zavos, a founding writer on The Roar, was long time editorial writer on the Sydney Morning Herald, where he started a rugby column that has run for nearly 30 years. Spiro has written 12 books: fiction, biography, politics and histories of Australian, New Zealand, British and South African rugby. He is regarded as one of the foremost writers on rugby throughout the world.
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February 10th 2011 @ 4:59am
Nancy said | February 10th 2011 @ 4:59am | Report comment
Please get your facts straight. ROGER FEDERER has 16 Grand Slam titles, the most of any player. Pete Sampras has 14!!! Roger is the GOAT, make no mistake. He’s still playing and may win even more majors.
February 10th 2011 @ 5:05am
Zolton said | February 10th 2011 @ 5:05am | Report comment
We’ve fixed this now. Thanks for all the comments pointing the error out. (ed.)
February 10th 2011 @ 5:14am
Nancy said | February 10th 2011 @ 5:14am | Report comment
Thank you for correcting the errors. It’s not bad enough that everyone’s writing off Federer because he lost in the AO semis, without people rewriting history and leaving out a few of his accomplishments. Although nothing surprises me where the treatment of Roger Federer is concerned. Hasn’t he done enough for the game without being maligned every day in the media and even by fellow players? He deserves way more respect than he is shown.
February 10th 2011 @ 5:30am
Brendon said | February 10th 2011 @ 5:30am | Report comment
GOAT tennis player arguments are always flawed. But its good to Spiro discuss the professional record of Laver. That gets ignored as does Gonzales and Rosewall’s.
Firstly why are slams the ONLY indicator of greatness? Guys like Sampras and Federer stayed at number 1 for lengthy periods.
Why aren’t Master 1000 tournaments and the ATP Tour Finals included in a players greatness? Oh, let me guess. ACI’s who have never played a game of tennis in their lives have deemed these tournaments “rubbish” and “unimportant”. Just like ACI’s who probably never even played 5th grade cricket have deemed ODI’s and Twenty20 “rubbish”.
Of course rankings didn’t come into the 70′s and it wasnt until the 90′s that we had the the 1000, 500, 250 ATP system (slams are not controlled by the ATP but by the ITF) and later on the Tour Finals, which was an ITF event originally with huge prize money but no ATP ranking points but later an event on the ATP tour with ranking points.
During Laver’s era 3 slams were on grass and only the French on clay.
What about Davis Cup performances?
I always felt the amateur players got a raw deal because Roy Emerson didn’t win a slam once the tour went Open. People forget that by the time that Laver won all 4 in 1969 Emerson was 33 and past his prime. We’ll never know how he would have matched up against the professionals in the mid 60′s when he was in his prime.
John Newcombe didn’t have any troubles winning slams in the Open era. 5/7 of his single grand slams was in the Open era.
February 10th 2011 @ 7:28am
amazonfan said | February 10th 2011 @ 7:28am | Report comment
ACIs?
Regarding Masters tournaments, they (with individual exceptions such as Rome and Miami) only really became prestigious in 1990, and beyond. That doesn’t mean one can’t consider them of course. However, IMO, the most important measurement of greatness will always be the slams.
Oh, and Twenty20 IS rubbish.
February 10th 2011 @ 5:31am
Vidzy said | February 10th 2011 @ 5:31am | Report comment
About Rod Laver. You are saying he was great on all the surfaces. In the 1960′s, the slams were played only on grass and clay , not on hard courts.
February 10th 2011 @ 6:02am
Snoozie_backhand said | February 10th 2011 @ 6:02am | Report comment
“Compare with Rod Laver, my nomination for the greatest tennis player of them all: four Wimbledons, three Australian Opens, two US Opens and two French Opens.
Laver was terrific on every surface”
One should keep in mind that 3 of 4 grand slams were played on grass in Laver’s day. Thus, every surface in this argument means two surfaces: grass and clay.
February 10th 2011 @ 6:05am
alex yambao said | February 10th 2011 @ 6:05am | Report comment
Dear sir,
You didn’t mention the grand slam court surface rod laver played on.
February 10th 2011 @ 6:08am
sheek said | February 10th 2011 @ 6:08am | Report comment
Spiro,
Another correction, which is crucial to your argument.
When Laver was playing, 3 of the majors were on grass, with the French on clay.
Both the Australian & USA changed to other surfaces after Laver retired.
But then again, on the other hand, Laver missed 5 years of playing majors when he was a professional (1963-67), so how many more majors might he have won during his peak physical & mental period. His age during his professional years was 26-30.
February 10th 2011 @ 6:21am
Plasmodium said | February 10th 2011 @ 6:21am | Report comment
Spiro – good rundown as always and food for debate. I believe that the Randall Vines you mention should be Ellsworth Vines, the champ from the thirties. Because wooden rackets couldn’t be used like ping pong bats as today’s rackets can be, many players resorted to flat strokes hit tremendously hard. And nobody hit them harder than Vines. But you had to be dead solid perfect and skim the net otherwise the ball would ride long. Vines stroke action was a little like Laver’s backhard action, a windmill before hitting the ball. Jack Kramer once said that if all the players from the pantheon – Tilden, Budge, Laver, Hoad, Rosewall, Gonzales et al – had their best day, and Vines had his best day, Ellsworth would crush them all. Vines was also the best golfer ever to come out of the pro tennis ranks. He came close to winning the 1951 PGA.
BTW, I was also at White City for the Hoad/Laver match. Afterwards, a flummoxed Laver said, “He’s by far the best I ever played.” Lew, in his typical, don’t-give-a-damn attitude said,
“He’s only been playing a lot of mugs. He’s got good potential.”
One of the mugs, of course, was Emmo who won 28 singles and double Grand Slam titles. Not bad for a mug.
February 10th 2011 @ 6:37am
Rachel H said | February 10th 2011 @ 6:37am | Report comment
I think it’s also important to consider the level of play back in the 60′s compared to now. The courts are much faster than 50 years ago and the competition is much closer.
February 10th 2011 @ 7:18am
Spiro Zavos said | February 10th 2011 @ 7:18am | Report comment
Homer has nodded. Thank you to readers for pointing out factual errors. I incorrectly transcribed information. This is no excuse. But as Tony Abbott would say …
In arguing against Federer, there is no intention or desire to downplay his great achievements.
He remains for me, and for many tennis supporters, the favourite player to watch and barrack for. His all-court style, his playing style and his demeanour make him an appealing player to follow.
I have suggested too that by the end of his career he may well establish a record that makes the argument about GOAT redundant, until someone comes up with an even better record.
But for now, I reckon Rod Laver is the man.
February 10th 2011 @ 7:42am
ameyaw said | February 10th 2011 @ 7:42am | Report comment
Dear tennis fans,
Roger Federer is the most beautiful thing that ever and will ever happen to tennis. It is rather unfortunate we forget that he has been in the French Open final three times(loosing to the greatest clay courter Rafael Nadal) and finally won it in 2009. Federer will definitely get to grand slam 20 before 2013.federer is the greatest period!!!.
February 10th 2011 @ 8:03am
sheek said | February 10th 2011 @ 8:03am | Report comment
Ameyaw,
You must be God himself/herself to be so sure of yourself…..
Us mere mortals don’t believe the issue is so cut & dried as you proclaim…..