CAMPO: How I would fix Australian rugby
By David Campese, 3 Jul 2012 David Campese is a Roar Expert
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I was invited to Zimbabwe by the IRB to help them prepare for the Under 20s World Championship B division in the USA. When I arrived at Harare, it was inspiring to see that, despite their financial challenges, the team was motivated, enthusiastic and genuinely proud to be there.
The IRB have identified a need in Zimbabwe as the talent and popularity of rugby is here, but the infrastructure and resources are seriously lacking.
The bigger picture is that they’re trying to come into contention for the Rugby World Cup, and to do that, it’s vital to improve the standard of the grassroots and stop players going overseas – Pocock, the Beast, Tiechman, Skinstad, and others.
The potential of the players that I worked with is plentiful, but they are raw and need a long-term program. Currently lacking this, the more talented players now play in South Africa.
But it really emphasised just how chalk and cheese it is between a developing country like Zimbabwe and a powerhouse of rugby such as Australia, and how at the top, we have forgotten some of the basics.
Zimbabwe just haven’t got the finances to be competitive on the world stage.
Australian rugby, by contrast, has the financial windfall from generous sponsors, huge crowds and hosting two Rugby World Cups.
We’ve got players galore, and some of the best infrastructure in the world. Yet we’re in a situation where we still struggle, even at Under 20s level.
Why?
Is it because we’ve had the same coach for last couple of years? Is it time to move away from that same style of rugby we’ve been playing?
Or is it that the majority of the resources go to the top end of the game at the expense of the grassroots?
One of the biggest factors counting against us right now is that we aren’t encouraging the natural flair of our players. Deans is trying to play rugby with two wingers who can score tries but two centers who can’t create.
Then there’s the emphasis on rugby league-style hit ups, which doesn’t make sense.
The All Blacks are way ahead of us with their style of rugby and their ability to execute the basic skills of the game. We have Beale, O’Connor, Cooper, and Pocock, but, really, who else?
If I was in charge of running Australian rugby, the first thing I’d do is get the rugby league influence out of our thinking and far away from our training grounds.
I’d appoint a good Australian coaching director and have them implement a style of rugby for all teams to work toward, from the national teams to the U7s. I’d then go out to the schools and work with the kids and the coaches to implement it.
Nurturing the grassroots would be a major focus.
I’d also use former Wallaby stars to meet with the kids, so kids could talk to, touch, and interact with some of the real legends of the game.
It’s sad to think that our young players don’t really understand or appreciate the history of Australian rugby. There has been almost no effort from the current administration to school the stars of tomorrow on the great feats of the past.
The emphasis is almost entirely on the modern day Wallabies. And that’s not smart.
You’ve got to understand and appreciate the history of the game. We’ve also got to tell kids about Rugby 7s being an Olympic sport. What kid woud not want to win an Olympic medal? They now can in rugby, and we don’t do enough to promote that.
We need to instill the values of vision, flair and basic skills to the kids. And the enjoyment factor needs to come back.
This week I’m at a Rugby Academy in South Africa. All the kids there are wearing Springbok jumpers. They all want to play for the Boks.
Have we got that same determination amongst the youth in Australia? I don’t think so.
Australian rugby doesn’t get out to the areas where we are not known. We’ve got to compete more vigorously with the rival codes to entice talented kids to take up the game.
Off the field, it’s a case of setting the structure: everyone has a role to do. Get the sponsors to inject more money into the grassroots game.
Club rugby is the breeding ground for the next generation of internationals to come through, but it’s been tragically neglected. We tried to get an Australian Shield going a few years back, but John O’Neill killed it.
But we’ve got to persist.
There are three tiers of top-class rugby in South Africa. We need the same in Australia to remain competitive.
We also must get all the unions together so we can all work together with the kids and all players. We need to unite together and look to the future so that rugby can regain its popularity as one of the top sports in the country.
We need people on the board who have a passion for the game and add value to the game. The key for a board and its members is impartiality. There should be no allegiance to anyone. Australian rugby needs to move forward and it is is crying out for the right people to lead us there.
On a final note, it was refreshing to see that Paddy O’Brien is now finished as Referees Chairman, and the former Scottish breakaway, John Jeffries, is the new boss.
Let’s hope this sees a change in the refereeing of international rugby, for the better.
This is the Second in a four-part Rugby Solutions series running this week on The Roar. Our rugby experts will be answering the question: If you were in charge of Australian rugby, how would you fix the problems you see and make us the number one rugby country in the world, again?
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July 3rd 2012 @ 9:59am
Sailosi said | July 3rd 2012 @ 9:59am | Report comment
The so called hit up is an interesting part of Australian rugby. I don’t necessarily know if it is due to rugby league influence or the fact that so many kids in Australia play both sports from a young age that it is second nature. But it really is ineffectual if done poorly or to often. I suggest that it is possibly the latter when watching Aussie teams play.
The other piece of play that Aussie teams tend to struggle with is playing off slow or static ball. They look lost and devoid of any idea of how to turn slow ball into quick ball. The pick and drive is another piece of play that Aussie teams persist with whilst being so poor at it.
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July 3rd 2012 @ 10:05am
Johnno said | July 3rd 2012 @ 10:05am | Report comment
-What I’d do is put a Zimbabwe team in the Vodacom cup . 3rd tier in sth africa like the shut shield here. They put in a Argentina development team in that comp and it was good for the Argies. Also Nambia to could enter a team.
-There is a bamburi cup in Africa that is either a African continent cup, or a a African club comp like a africian super 15 comp.
-long term maybe in 20 or 30 years by World cup 2035, South Africa’s natural home is Africa not Asia-Paicifc, and they should leave our region zone.
-And there national team and club comps should show that.
In relatiy that means sty africa eventually leaving super 15 rugby, and the Rugby championship.
-Same with Argentina. there natural home is South America, or even North America the Americas copa america and there national team should represent that.
-I have always campaigned or believed that over the next 8 years Australia/NZ must develop close rugby union ties with Asia-pacific.
-In other words Japan, Fiji, Samoa, Tonga . These nations are our natural home and timezone, not Africa or South America.
And the world cup will be in Asia 2019 for the 1st time and Australia/NZ have a central role in that as major Asia-pacific nations.
-The pacific nations cup was good this year(Japan,Fiji,Samoa,Tonga), would be more than happy if Aust/NZ entered that and ditched Sth Africa and Argentina, as those nations are our natural home.
-And Japan and those other nations are getting much better, winning in Tokyo is very tough now. Samoa a full strength Samoa,Fiji,Tonga, only just beat Japan and each match there was only 1 points to 7 points in it, nothing.
-And Japan under 20 played really well in the JRWT in USA just losing to the USA , to be promoted tot he 12 team 1st division under 20 world cup.
-Japan rugby is on the rise, as is Asia. India and Pakistan are rapidly getting better 2 seriously big nations as is Sth Korea.
-Like Australia joining the Asian soccer conference and playing in the Asia cup, Australia/NZ must develop closer ties with Japan especially as the world cup will be held there in 2019 in our region.
July 3rd 2012 @ 4:17pm
biltongbek said | July 3rd 2012 @ 4:17pm | Report comment
Johnno, Namibia is already part of the Vodacom cup, the same as Los Pampas from Argentina, Zimbabwe was part of it, I don’t know why not anymore, Both Namibia and Zimbabwe takes part in the Cruyven schools week.
South Africa does a lot for their neighbouring countries already, not sure how much more they can do.
July 3rd 2012 @ 10:05am
kingplaymaker said | July 3rd 2012 @ 10:05am | Report comment
I agree that aiming to develop the Wallabies from the top down is meaningless, as it is the top of the pyramid that rests upon large playing numbers (not really), sufficent teams to house these playing numbers (not at all), sufficent private money to retain these players (without single private ownership, no way). If those three things were worked on with rugby spread to more schools, more teams with private owners then the Wallabies at the top would suddenly have a whole lot of superb players to choose from instead of having to put out two dud centres who can do little more than defend.
I think though that the reason Deans had to field two non-attacking centres is that there was no one else. In fact Australian rugby hardly has produced one natural attacking centre since the retirement of Stirling Mortlock. Or rather it has but they have been pillaged from Australian schoolboy teams or state teams because there aren’t enough teams to offer them places (i.e. Jamal Idris NSW under-16).
July 3rd 2012 @ 10:21am
Johnno said | July 3rd 2012 @ 10:21am | Report comment
KPM there seems to be many in aussy rugby circles now happy JON is departing.
And I am glad someone like Campo maybe the most famous wallaby in the last 40 years has been critical of JON lack of grassroots development.
JON is one hell of a negotiator but whatever is done with that money, no grassroots model fund has been sufficient or he has not put any time into grassroots rugby KPM. A disgrace
-I have been the last week KPM following the USA rugby without he under 20 JWRT which USA just won beating Japan in a thrilling grand final in packed house in UTAH USA, and USA nor next year will go into the 1st division under 20 world cup and Italy got relegated in a play off loss to Fiji.
-USA has rookie rugby which won a best development award from the IRB, there junior under 20 team played great rugby as did Japan, and on the usa rugby website tonnes of stuff about lots of conferences about grassroots junior models they are trying.
-Russia too a rugby team in every high school will be happening. Russia has just hosted the European championship 7evens leg in Moscow, and next year is hosting the world sevens in Moscow at the Moscow Olympic stadium.
-So much potential Eastern europe.
-If I was in charge of the ARU next year KPM my priorities would be this
-Keep existing markets strong
-Get the tahs to re-connect with sydney
-And work really hard on massive new neglected markets where rugby would be a natural powerhouse
-West sydney.Newcastle,gold coast, Adelaide
Rugby has a lot of potential KPM in Australia i just hope the new boss of aussy rugby next year has a modern approach not elitist approach like i think JON does at times.
July 3rd 2012 @ 10:44am
kingplaymaker said | July 3rd 2012 @ 10:44am | Report comment
Agree fully Johnno. The problem with JON is that he is bound by the conservative complacency around him that leads to two problems: 1) snail’s pace of progress because of the assumption that everything is basically fine. 2) Keeping rugby within established boundaries i.e. schools and clubs where it already exists.
JON as you point out is competent at what he does, and indeed some things he does such as moving to Melbourne and spending money not on high-end league converts but on teenagers who may go to league is fine. The problem comes in what he does not do. He does not create teams quickly enough, he does not facilitate single private investment but only the worthless idea of someone investing in something they don’t own, and he has no apparent interest in spreading the game to new schools, although he might well be lynched if he tried.
Funnily enough on the Brett Mckay thread I just made the point that such is the recent success of Queensland rugby and Ewen Mckenzie’s ability as a recruiter of talent and at spreading the game that the Reds already have more talent than they can possibly use. Look at the backs: Cooper, Lucas, Tapuai, Harris, Sautia, Shipperley, Morahan, Hynes, Seuteni, Ioane, Faiingaa, Lance, Toua and Will Chambers left because he couldn’t get a start. That’s two backlines of talent and doubtless more to come with further growth with Mckenzie as director of rugby. This all means there should be a second team in QLD, on the Gold Coast. There is even a potentially interested buyer in Terry Jackman who said he would put his own millions into it. the talent is there, the private money is, but what are JON and the ARU doing to do about it?
July 3rd 2012 @ 11:43am
Mick H said | July 3rd 2012 @ 11:43am | Report comment
“Get the tahs to re-connect with sydney”
The only time I hear something about the tahs is when I am in the city (only a few times a year at the moment) and see a billboard or when someone from the media is ripping them to shreds.
The ARU would be stupid to turn it’s back on Western Sydney if they thought it was only going to lose to NRL and AFL. People in Western Sydney love SPORT, develop and work hard with the young kids and who knows where they’ll finish. But a more prominent team to aspire too would help as well.
Western Sydney is too big a population to not fight for and the ARU cannot turn it’s back on this area.
July 3rd 2012 @ 2:55pm
p.Tah said | July 3rd 2012 @ 2:55pm | Report comment
An article on grassroots development in Colorado. 1000 kids turning up to a rugby ‘Jamboree’
http://www.rugbymag.com/youth/5195-youth-jamboree-tops-1000-in-colorado.html
July 3rd 2012 @ 6:46pm
Johnno said | July 3rd 2012 @ 6:46pm | Report comment
thans what i mean p.tah stuff like that is good stuff. Aussy rugby needs more off.
I have been following closely the USA the last 2 weeks. They wont the JWRTrophy the 2nd division under world cup which was held in UTAH. They beat Japan great crowds and next year the USA will be in the 1st division under 20 world cup with nations like Australia, NZ, France where next years tournament will be held.
This stuff is what is needed rookie rugby won an IRB award last year.
A new high performance centre has been built in Canada too
http://rugbyrugby.com/news/more_news/canada_news/6999105/canadian_rugby_centre_of_excellence_opens
These nations are catching up to Australia fast and they are big nations with just as much if not more money than Australia and NZ.
July 3rd 2012 @ 7:15pm
p.Tah said | July 3rd 2012 @ 7:15pm | Report comment
Johnno, how is this for a YouTube video by USA Rugby. It’s quite well done. They love this stuff. Makes me almost want to be an Eagle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqEOQJNLyRE
July 3rd 2012 @ 7:22pm
Johnno said | July 3rd 2012 @ 7:22pm | Report comment
p.tah i added the same promo video down below,. Greta minds think alike.
It is very good video in my opinion, as it shows good promotion that the USA is serious about rugby.
July 3rd 2012 @ 7:42pm
p.Tah said | July 3rd 2012 @ 7:42pm | Report comment
Nice Johnno. I hadn’t got that far, thanks.
I agree, they’re very serious. Melville and Rugby USA are doing a good job. Rugby is inching it’s way to mainstream interest, still a long way to go but you get a feeling they’ll get there, pretty scary when they do.
July 3rd 2012 @ 8:00pm
Johnno said | July 3rd 2012 @ 8:00pm | Report comment
p.tah I agree, very scary. USA 300 million, russia 140 million. SO much potential big nations with lots of money to spend on rugby.
July 3rd 2012 @ 7:10pm
Johnno said | July 3rd 2012 @ 7:10pm | Report comment
P.tah an Ad i saw for in USA to in Buffalo USA which is near New York they are running a coaching clinic too so exciting times.
USA Rugby has teamed up with the Buffalo Rugby Club to run a Seven’s Technical Player/Coach Clinic on Sat. July 14th in Upstate NY.
For more information or to register go to http://buffalorugby.org/apress/site/news/detail.php?id=530
If you are interested in bringing a Technical Clinic to your area or for more information contact Coach Development Manager .
July 3rd 2012 @ 10:05am
Justin2 said | July 3rd 2012 @ 10:05am | Report comment
Campo – I agree we are playing league right now, have been saying so all year with regard to the Wallabies in particular. The tactics are ordinary and this was an area where we were the trend setters. We used to hear often that the Aussies played smart football. Its been a while since I heard that!
Regarding kids and educating them on the legends of the past, I cant agree. Kids want to see the heroes that are on TV. Its the same for any code. Do you think a 10yr old cricketer is interested in Alan Border? Nope, they love Ponting or Warner, modern day heroes are what the kids need to see more of. Lets not live in the past… get them hooked on the modern stars and then worry about them looking up your you tube videos
July 3rd 2012 @ 10:12am
Bobby_JJV said | July 3rd 2012 @ 10:12am | Report comment
There is no doubting Australia have amazing rugby players, they are second in the world and are hugely competitive with NZ and SA, the key problem is rightly pointed out here and that all their players have not come through the ranks like NZ for example. NZ players have played along side one another from early age grade teams right through and have the same dreams and aspirations to be in the All Blacks, just like those SA kids crusing round in their Bok it’s the same in NZ. When they put on those jerseys they feel like champions. Passion can certainly out weigh a numerical advantage players, weirdly NZ has both in abunance. Does Aus have that same rich feeling of pride with it’s players? I think the devepolment of a new Aussie style of rugby is key and they are not going to get that will a Kiwi coach and several key Kiwi players IMO. Identify and bring in up and coming players before they go to league.
July 3rd 2012 @ 10:16am
Justin2 said | July 3rd 2012 @ 10:16am | Report comment
One last point Campo – I take offence to say we are “struggling”. We arent struggling at all, we are very competitive at Test level and I think there are a number of sides in world rugby who would like our struggles!
July 3rd 2012 @ 10:27am
Blinky Bill of Bellingen said | July 3rd 2012 @ 10:27am | Report comment
“Deans is trying to play rugby with two wingers who can score tries but two centers who can’t create.” You could add ‘and can’t pass’.
Is Australia really ‘a powerhouse of Rugby’? So often my impressions are that we are just managing to hold on. Perhaps we need to use our resources more wisely.
I’ll be interested to see what happens following the the unsuccessful U20′s campaign. My guess is that Nuci will continue much as he has. And THAT to me highlights what’s wrong with Australian Rugby.
July 3rd 2012 @ 10:50am
Justin2 said | July 3rd 2012 @ 10:50am | Report comment
BBB – I agree wholeheartedly with your last paragraph. Its an absolute disgrace. Nuci will be doing a review no doubt on himself. You couldnt make it up….
July 3rd 2012 @ 11:31am
rl said | July 3rd 2012 @ 11:31am | Report comment
It’s worth considering where each U20 team placed this year, and the age break-up of their squads.
- 1st place: SAF – 21 players (of a squad of 29) aged 20
- 2nd: NZ – 19 aged 20, 1 aged 18
- 3rd: Wales – 12 aged 20, 3 aged 18
- 4th: Argentina – 17 aged 20, 3 aged 18
- 5th: Ireland – 13 aged 20, none aged 18
- 6th: France – 17 aged 20, 1 aged 18
- 7th: England – 10 aged 20, 2 aged 18
- 8th: Australia – 7 aged 20, 10 aged 18
A lot has changed since I played age rugby, but one thing hasn’t – while there will always be some outliers, on average there’s a hell of a lot of difference between the physical development of an 18 year old and a 20 year old. And the mental too – pretty challenging task to front up repeatedly against teams that are physically stronger across the park.
I’m no Nucifora apologist, I just don’t like seeing these very promising kids getting bashed over what simply boils down to a matter of bad timing – the next championship is in France next year, where potentially over 2/3rds of both the first and second place getters squads will be ineligible. Let’s hold off the lynch mob until then. If I’m wrong, hand me a pitchfork and I’ll be the first to yell “Yee haaa!”
July 3rd 2012 @ 12:29pm
Blinky Bill of Bellingen said | July 3rd 2012 @ 12:29pm | Report comment
rl – That’s an interesting break down of the ages in the various teams.
I’m not too sure where you’re coming from with the ‘lynch mob’ remark. I believe most wonder about Nuci’s management & coaching. Are you suggesting that Nucifora was shrewd to toss our youngsters in against older players as some kind of masterstroke towards France in 2013?
July 3rd 2012 @ 12:55pm
Justin2 said | July 3rd 2012 @ 12:55pm | Report comment
No lynch mob I just find it staggering that Nuci has and will review the Wallabies and U20s when he was part of both World Cups.
I am not as fussed as many others on here regarding junior results. Too many variables to draw strong parallels with likely senior performances.
July 3rd 2012 @ 1:15pm
ncart said | July 3rd 2012 @ 1:15pm | Report comment
RL, that’s really interesting breakdown of ages. Do you know why Australia had so many 18 year olds? What has happened to the 19/20 year olds that would be eligible?
July 3rd 2012 @ 1:49pm
Tumble Hill said | July 3rd 2012 @ 1:49pm | Report comment
RL – NZ will be able to continually put out an ultra competitive u20s year in year out.
Are you saying that AUS will only be competitive when their 18 year olds turn 20 in 2 years time? Yeah they might have a strong team then, but so will NZ and SA
Even though 2/3rds of the NZ team will be ineligible they wont have a problem filling those spots.
July 3rd 2012 @ 10:41am
soapit said | July 3rd 2012 @ 10:41am | Report comment
a problem with the grassroots is players just don’t play enough matches in their youth and dont get the chance to develop a wide range of skills and experience a wide range of game situations before they get put into the top tier.
as i understand this because the best rugby schools dont let their players play league or for clubs on the weekend. i have had it argued that it is to protect their schooling but they are happy to force them into many weights and fitness sessions for the school team when they could be hitting the books.
you learn much more from actually being on the field.
July 3rd 2012 @ 10:52am
Johnno said | July 3rd 2012 @ 10:52am | Report comment
Soapit I would argue they play enough matches the problem is not enough people in OZ have access to good junior rugby.
The private school rugby set up is pretty good in sydney, and in some parts of Brisbane.
-You can end up playing about 13 matches a year plus a 10′s or sevens weekend. Plus 2-3 conference rep games if you make rep teams, and if you play for NSW schools, in the state championships, plus 1 aussy schoolboy match a year you will have racked up about 18-20 matches. And not paid totally amateur to mind you.
-And this is in year 11 and 12. And especially for the year 12 people racking up 18 matches of rugby, plus the training time in your final year 12 university entrance exams is a lot of time given too rugby.
I have known a few kids who basically rugby consumed up a lot of there time and they got lower final yr 12 marks, and did nothing in the rugby careers after school, but didn’t get into there preferred uni course coz they played rep rugby in yr 12.
-So these schools have to be mindful that yr 12 and these schools are npt rugby academies and balance is the key, and they do overall do this. But the rep rugby eats up a lot of time at junior level it happens around that Augast-septmeber time right near when exams start in October.
July 3rd 2012 @ 11:27am
soapit said | July 3rd 2012 @ 11:27am | Report comment
to be honest 18-20 should really be the minimum that everyone can play if they want and can manage, not the max for the schoolboy reps (the ones most likely to go pro).
if it affects their studies then parents can cut back their load, but why prevents everyone from playing more games because some can’t handle the extra workload? there are many sports that require additional time to be put in and its up to the individual and their parents to manage the workload.
and this claim that they are not rugby academies puts the system in a frustrating position. if they are not then why not get rid of all the specialist rugby coaches, extra curricular 2-3 day a week training and allow proper development to come from the club system then. you cant have your cake and eat it too with that argument.
i also think that the junior rugby is there but very little is done to get kids from non rugby backgrounds along. whens the last time you saw a concerted ad campaign for juniors for example.
July 3rd 2012 @ 2:37pm
Dasher said | July 3rd 2012 @ 2:37pm | Report comment
1992 – the “Wannabe a Wallaby” campaign.
July 3rd 2012 @ 11:19pm
Nick said | July 3rd 2012 @ 11:19pm | Report comment
If only the ARU would abandon the private schools and put their resources into clubs.
July 3rd 2012 @ 5:30pm
Raptor said | July 3rd 2012 @ 5:30pm | Report comment
Johnno, If the schoolboy rugby players are not allowed to play club rugby, there is no way that they get enough games in for the year. Saying that an Australian Schoolboy rep will rack up 18 – 20 games a year is terrible. What say you are not an Australian Schoolboy rep, – those kids end up playing around 10 games. No wonder we are falling behind in the junior ranks.
July 3rd 2012 @ 7:30pm
Johnno said | July 3rd 2012 @ 7:30pm | Report comment
Raptor i think the ideal number is 12-15 games a year. At school i was in the 1st 15 but played not rep footy.
Like making the schools conference rep teams, or or no state footy, or no 1 test a year aussy school boys.
And we played 12 matches in that year i was at school , plus a 10′s tournament on the gold coast that went for 4 days in the school holidays. And 12 games a year felt more than adequate 3 training sessions a week and a match on saturday 12 matches did feel right too me.
And i can tell you the kids who did play rep footy did find those extra 6-8 matches an effort they were tired after.
Plus had to finish there yr 12, which is far more important than a year of school boy rugby
July 4th 2012 @ 9:19am
soapit said | July 4th 2012 @ 9:19am | Report comment
i dare say the travel involved in rep footy had a fair bit to do with them being tired.
July 3rd 2012 @ 11:16pm
Nick said | July 3rd 2012 @ 11:16pm | Report comment
18-20? In a whole year? f my kids played that few games they would be unbearable to live with.
July 3rd 2012 @ 11:12pm
Nick said | July 3rd 2012 @ 11:12pm | Report comment
Its to keep the kids exclusively for their own use.
July 3rd 2012 @ 10:48am
Albo said | July 3rd 2012 @ 10:48am | Report comment
I think it’s a little disrespectful to even remotely suggest Pocock’s family leaving Zimbabwe was a result of lack of grassroots rugby.
Their story is as horrific as it is admirable and was a heartbreaking decision to have to make. Rugby certainly wasn’t even remotely a factor.
Good to hear though about the current crop of rugby players there though and god speed to them all. Would be great to see a Zim team back in the WC.
July 3rd 2012 @ 10:50am
Skills & Techniques said | July 3rd 2012 @ 10:50am | Report comment
All the negativity when we are ranked 2nd in the world! Robbie Deans got us there! JON has been great for Australian Rugby twice especially more recently having the guts and lateral thinking to recruit a coach from NZ. Bravo to both. We don’t have a big playing pool and lots of top level talent is in AFL and NRL but we always punch above our weight and can routinely beat everyone in the world bar NZ. It’s not that bad.
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July 4th 2012 @ 12:54am
murph73 said | July 4th 2012 @ 12:54am | Report comment
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