George Smith to play against the Lions?

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    George Smith coming back to the Brumbies is the best and most feel good rugby news of the season so far.

    It’s not just the fact that he’s back. He’s only here for a short period, and, if you believe Stephen Larkham, he will mostly start off the bench (yeah, right) and won’t be available for Wallabies selection (yeah, right again).

    Fact: It’s a Lions year.

    Fact: he only played his last game in Japan, yesterday.

    Fact: he starts work with the Brumbies on Monday morning.

    Are you getting my drift?

    We know he is a dedicated Brumby but you might think he might want to be a little more laid back and maybe take a week or two off?

    Who wouldn’t want to play in a Lions series?

    Is George a chance? Yes!

    Is he competitive? Yes!

    How many Lions series has he played in? Just the one!

    Would he like to play in another one – well, you would have to ask him, but I’m guessing that I know the answer – too bloody right!

    What do we all think about that theory?

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    • February 26th 2013 @ 5:00am
      mania said | February 26th 2013 @ 5:00am | ! Report

      hope smith opts to play for the wb’s.

      • February 26th 2013 @ 9:26am
        simon_sez said | February 26th 2013 @ 9:26am | ! Report

        Mania, there is this ridiculous rule in Australia and NZ, but not South Africa or Argentina, where a player not playing in the Super 15 is not eligible to be selected for the Wallabies (or ABs). Australia does not have as much depth as NZ and has suffered to be handicapped by this imposition. Take last year for example, with all the injuries to the key players, the Wallabies could have used the help of experienced Wallabies. George Smith, if he had wanted to play, should have always been eligible for selection, so too Matt Giteau or anyone else who has earned the right to play overseas. This right could earned by representing Australia at least 50 or 60 or 70 tests, or whatever number is determined. This situation would create an opportunity and a reward to those player to maximise their earnings, it would free up the Super 15 franchises to bring on the new talent, save the ARU money in top up fees, and would ultimately create more competition for each Wallaby position.

        • February 26th 2013 @ 9:43am
          mania said | February 26th 2013 @ 9:43am | ! Report

          simon – i’m against the international eligibility rule being relaxed. neither nz or aus can afford to get rid of this rule. it would mean a huge exodus of quality players leaving your shores to get lucrative contracts o/s and the knock on affect of that is your domestic players end up playing against lesser opposition meaning they’ll develop that much slower.
          also with samoa who have no choice but to relax this rule they never ever have a consistent team. every tournament has different players. only in WC year do manuSamoa players all come to play.

          • February 26th 2013 @ 10:32am
            simon_sez said | February 26th 2013 @ 10:32am | ! Report

            Mania, I will have to agree to disagree with you, as you say a “huge exodus of quality palyers leaving our shores”, this is not correct. The senior players who have put in many years of service, and there are only a few who qualify, will be leaving anyway to earn more money and a change of scenery, for example, Berrick Barnes is off to Japan and he has played over 50 tests. I am not saying 50 tests is the threshold, but a high number, say, 60 or 70 tests could be the qualifying number. The number of qualifying players is small (<5) and the impact to the local Super 15 competition would be negligible. The benefit to the Wallabies would be greater creating a lot more competition by being able to select these overseas players, as well as the local up and coming players, for each position and giving the Wallabies much more depth.

            • February 26th 2013 @ 10:37am
              mania said | February 26th 2013 @ 10:37am | ! Report

              yeah simon, we’ll have to agree to disagree. my comment “huge exodus of quality palyers leaving our shores” probably applies more to nz players than aus.

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                February 26th 2013 @ 11:37am
                Mantis said | February 26th 2013 @ 11:37am | ! Report

                I agree with Mania. Its no secret that players can earn more in Europe then they can in Australia. Many would play the majority of their careers over there if they could still play for the Wallabies. By having this rule it means that the majority of our high caliber players stay in Australia for longer.

              • February 26th 2013 @ 11:47am
                mania said | February 26th 2013 @ 11:47am | ! Report

                thanx mantis. u only have to look at samoa who have more rugby players overseas than actually in samoa. those rugby players that are based in samoa are usually the ones that havent picked up a euro contract yet.

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          February 26th 2013 @ 12:39pm
          The Bush said | February 26th 2013 @ 12:39pm | ! Report

          “This right could earned by representing Australia at least 50 or 60 or 70 tests, or whatever number is determined.

          This is actually a fantastic suggestion. Set the limit at say seventy (70) Tests. As the Wallabies play about thirteen (13) per season, this means you would have to put in about six (6) or so seasons (assuming almost no more than say one (1) missed Test a year due to injury or selection) to be eligable to leave our shores and still be picked. In other words a seasoned veteran, as most would take more like seven (7) or eight (8) years to get to this level. This way we wouldn’t be losing any up and coming talent. Ultimately if you are a superstar still after that many Tests you’re going to demand more than enough money in Australia anyway.

          I like it.

        • February 28th 2013 @ 12:37pm
          soapit said | February 28th 2013 @ 12:37pm | ! Report

          “would free up the Super 15 franchises to bring on the new talent”

          i dont they’re in any way restricted from bringing in new talent at this point. if a good player popped up they would easily find a place for him.

    • February 26th 2013 @ 6:26am
      Johnno said | February 26th 2013 @ 6:26am | ! Report

      He has said no to the Lion’s series apparently. He is still contracted to his Japan club, and may have to go there for pre-season, and the ARU would have to sign him to some sort of short deal, like the Brumbies. He has been blitzing it in Japan, so maybe you never know. Japan rugby is very fast, and Smith is really fit, and has developed his skills a lot there, filling in at half back, and at inside centre, so you never know. He is the same age as Mccaw 32 , 33 this year, be great if he could still come back.

      But in all reality he was overtaken by Pocock by the time he was 29, who says a 32 yr old Smith would be better.

      But a change of scene , and rugby culture can freshen up a player, think Radike Samo comeback, so he might come back a better player. I hope so, George Smith was amazing in that Lion’s series. A great player he is in the top 10 best wallabies defiantly since 1985, but for mine is pushing top 5 since 1985, such is his quality .

      Only maybe Tim Horan, Campo, John Eales, Gregan,Larkham, have claims to be better and I say maybe. George Smith is one heck of a rugby union player, world class.

      • February 26th 2013 @ 8:24am
        Crash Ball2 said | February 26th 2013 @ 8:24am | ! Report

        George Smith had the rare ability to raise his game when competition came knocking and he was matching it with Pocock game-for-game and robbery-for-robbery at the time of his International retirement.

        Selfishly, I’d love to see Smith go round one more time in the Wallaby Gold. I’d suggest he would still be one of our best. Alas, it should have been the 2011 RWC and not the 2013 Lions tour. How much would I have paid to see G. Smith contesting the breakdown in that fateful pool match with Ireland rather than – ahem – Ben McCalman.

        My head says that a new breed of worthy young opensides have earned the right to play this Lions series. I suspect George Smith agrees. Because aside from a freakishly gifted champion, he is also all class.

      • February 28th 2013 @ 2:32pm
        borris said | February 28th 2013 @ 2:32pm | ! Report

        I am curious Johnno, I saw you on here stating that Hugh Mcmimmermon should never be contracted to an Australian provence because he left Australian shores and left our second row stocks low. I think you even blamed a world cup loss on him. But now your happy George Smith is returning. Its a bit confusing?? George left just after his prime but still had a lot to offer Australian rugby.

    • February 26th 2013 @ 8:10am
      winston said | February 26th 2013 @ 8:10am | ! Report

      Didn’t we do this with some other player a week or so ago?

    • February 26th 2013 @ 8:13am
      mike said | February 26th 2013 @ 8:13am | ! Report

      I dont see him overtaking Pocock in the wallabies or the brumbies so Id like to see him playing 6, as I think this is his best shot.

      • February 26th 2013 @ 8:35am
        Red Kev said | February 26th 2013 @ 8:35am | ! Report

        nah, he’s a skillful ball-playing link-running no.8, if the choice was between Palu or Smith I’d take Smith every day of the week.

        But every news report has said he won’t be available for the Wallabies so I don’t think he’ll be playing anything other than Super Rugby.

    • February 26th 2013 @ 8:42am
      Atawhai Drive said | February 26th 2013 @ 8:42am | ! Report

      It’s good to have him back during his holidays but I can’t see him suiting up for the Wallabies against the Lions.

      No 6 or 8 with the Brumbies?

      • February 26th 2013 @ 8:51am
        eagleJack said | February 26th 2013 @ 8:51am | ! Report

        It has to come down to what is best for the Wallabies.

        Right now we have Ben Mowen playing exceptionally well at 8. If the Wallabies are looking at Mowen at 8 then Smith plays 6 at the Brumbies. If the Wallabies are interested in Mowen at 6 (and I think he could make a real fist of it there) then Smith plays 8.

        We need to start thinking like NZ rugby and for Wallabies management to start being influential in where the provinces play their players.

        • February 26th 2013 @ 9:12am
          Crash Ball2 said | February 26th 2013 @ 9:12am | ! Report

          I’d agree with that statement usually. But Wallabies management make some questionable positional choices as it stands.

    • February 26th 2013 @ 9:48am
      Cliff said | February 26th 2013 @ 9:48am | ! Report

      He’ll play against the Lions – but for the Brumbies rather than the Wallabies.

      • February 26th 2013 @ 10:35am
        The Battered Slav said | February 26th 2013 @ 10:35am | ! Report

        Not this year, the Kings have taken the place of Lions.

        The closest he’ll come to playing the Lions will be playing the Cheetahs, if we’re going by feline taxonomy.

        • February 26th 2013 @ 10:53am
          Jutsie said | February 26th 2013 @ 10:53am | ! Report

          The B&I lions play a tour game against the brums. I think thats what he is referring to.

          • February 26th 2013 @ 11:29am
            The Battered Slav said | February 26th 2013 @ 11:29am | ! Report

            Derp. Didn’t think of the tour match.

            My bad cliffy.

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