Geelong can and should land Gary Ablett and Jake Stringer

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    Gary Ablett has requested a trade to Geelong, and if you believe the rumour mill, Jake Stringer may not be far away. Despite some genuine concerns about the structure of their list, they can and should do what it takes to bring both in.

    AFL list management series
    18 – Brisbane Lions
    17 – Gold Coast Suns
    16 – Carlton Blues
    15 – North Melbourne Kangaroos
    14 – Fremantle Dockers
    13 – Collingwood Magpies
    12 – Hawthorn Hawks
    11 – St Kilda Saints
    10 – Western Bulldogs
    9 – Melbourne Demons
    8 – Essendon Bombers
    7 – Port Adelaide Power
    6 – West Coast Eagles
    5 – Sydney Swans
    4 – GWS Giants

    2017 in short

    Geelong’s 2017 ultimately showed no real progress nor decline on their 2016 season, in both cases bowing out of finals a week early having been thoroughly outclassed in a preliminary final.

    Again Patrick Dangerfield and Joel Selwood were elite, again that wasn’t enough to take them all the way. Mitch Duncan really stood up this year and Zach Tuohy proved to be a handy recruit.

    The highlight of the year was a dominant victory over the Sydney Swans in the semi-final, a clinical performance in a game where the Cats were considered outsiders.

    Mitch Duncan Geelong Cats AFL 2017


    Chris Scott is one of the more difficult coaches to puzzle out in the league, and during this year’s finals series in particular football pundits went hot and cold and back again on him regularly.

    He took the Cats all the way to a premiership in his first year in charge of the club and that was a remarkable achievement, but in the time since their finals record has been quite bad, winning three of eleven.

    How much credit should really belong to him for taking that 2011 side to the flag, and how much of the Cats’ current inability to get the job done in finals should be laid at his door?

    The answer to both questions is probably that there are a lot more moving parts at a football club than just the senior coach. Scott may not be the Messiah, but he certainly is capable of playing the role he needs to.

    He signed an extension until the end of the 2019 season during the year, and at the moment there’s nothing to suggest he won’t see it out.

    Chris Scott Geelong Cats AFL 2017


    Joel Selwood has captained the Cats for six years now and is one of the most respected and admired skippers in the league.

    He is nearing 30 and Geelong will eventually have to turn their eye towards a next-generation leader to take over the role, but he can probably hold it for another two or three years at least.

    There isn’t really an obvious choice to take up the mantle in Geelong’s younger brigade at this point, so finding someone to fulfill that role between now and then will be a crucial task on the Cats’ to-do list.

    List management

    It’s remarkable that the Cats have been able to stay near the pointy end of the competition so long – this goes against the natural order of things in an AFL world were equalisation is increasingly the norm, and can only usually be achieved through regular radical surgery.

    When the Cats won their first flag of the new millenium in 2007 Joel Selwood was just a first-year player, and now he is the 29-year-old captain of the club. Given the retirements of Tom Lonergan and Andrew Mackie, he’s currently the second-oldest player on the list.

    Below him there’s a handful of players who were drafted to the Cats in the time since and have become genuine stars or at least solid performers – the likes of Tom Hawkins (29), Steven Motlop, Mark Blicavs, Daniel Menzel (both 26), Sam Menegola, Cam Guthrie (both 25), Jackson Thurlow (23), Jake Kolodjashnij (22), Nakia Cockatoo (20) and Brandan Parfitt (19).

    These aren’t the players who have sustained Geelong’s success though, it’s been the trade-ins who have kept them afloat. Two years ago the Cats added four 25-year-olds (now 27) in one swoop – Lachie Henderson, Zac Smith, Scott Selwood and Patrick Dangerfield. Last year they added another player of that age in Zach Tuohy.

    Zach Tuohy Geelong Cats AFL 2017

    It’s been a clear strategy to bolster the middle tier of a side that was lacking due to its own success in the past decade preventing it from having access to high draft picks.

    This strategy is robbing Peter to pay Paul though, because doing these deals has cost Geelong another generation of first-round draft picks. They’ve only taken one top ten pick in the last nine drafts, and have already sold their 2017 first-rounder. They haven’t solved their problem, they’ve just put off dealing with it for another five years or so.

    As a result their 23-and-under group is a bit uninspiring. Thurlow, Kolodjashnij, Cockatoo and Parfitt are the only players I’d bet on having significant AFL careers there.

    What would be more accurate though is to say that this was actually robbing Peter to pay Patrick Dangerfield. When one of the best players in the competition wants to come to your club for below market price, there is only one answer.

    Geelong have based their list strategy around the arrival of Dangerfield and so they simply must target a flag within the next three years while both he and Selwood are at their peaks. A collapse may well come after that, but after more than a decade of success they should be willing to cop that blow.

    Patrick Dangerfield Geelong Cats AFL 2017

    Geelong players by age
    Tom Lonergan – 33yr 4mth
    Andrew Mackie – 33yr 1mth
    Harry Taylor – 31yr 3mth
    Joel Selwood – 29yr 4mth
    Tom Hawkins – 29yr 2mth
    Zach Tuohy – 27yr 9mth
    Lachie Henderson – 27yr 9mth
    Zac Smith – 27yr 7mth
    Scott Selwood – 27yr 5mth
    Partick Dangerfield – 27yr 5mth
    Aaron Black – 26yr 9mth
    Rhys Stanley – 26yr 9mth
    Steven Motlop – 26yr 6mth
    Josh Cowan – 26yr 6mth
    Mark Blicavs – 26yr 5mth
    Mitch Duncan – 26yr 3mth
    Ryan Abbott – 26yr 3mth
    Daniel Menzel – 26yr
    Sam Menegola – 25yr 6mth
    Jordan Murdoch – 25yr 6mth
    Tom Ruggles – 25yr 5mth
    Cam Guthrie – 25yr 1mth
    George Horlin-Smith – 24yr 9mth
    Tom Stewart – 24yr 6mth
    Lincoln McCarthy – 23yr 11mth
    Jed Bews – 23yr 9mth
    Jackson Thurlow – 23yr 5mth
    Timm House – 22yr 4mth
    Jake Kolodjashnij – 22yr 1mth
    Darcy Lang – 21yr 10mth
    Wylie Buzza – 21yr 6mth
    Jordan Cunico – 21yr 4mth
    Cory Gregson – 21yr
    Nakia Cockatoo – 20yr 11mth
    Mark O’Connor (R) – 20yr 8mth
    Matthew Hayball – 20yr 6mth
    James Parsons – 20yr 5mth
    Ryan Gardner – 20yr 3mth
    Quinton Narkle – 19yr 9mth
    Brandan Parfitt – 19yr 4mth
    Sam Simpson (R) – 19yr 3mth
    Zach Guthrie (R) – 19yr 2mth
    Esava Ratugolea – 19yr 2mth
    Jack Henry (R) – 19yr
    Jamaine Jones (R) – 18yr 11mth

    Nakia Cockatoo Geelong Cats AFL 2017

    Geelong do have a few immediate contract concerns that it’s time to make decisions on. Steven Motlop and Daniel Menzel are the two most important, but we’ll talk about them a little later.

    Darcy Lang is also one to consider. He just hasn’t really come good in the way the Cats might have hoped for so far. Certainly worth persisting with, but he could be trade bait.

    In terms of the 2018 contract group, there doesn’t appear to be any genuine flight risks. Generally speaking, Geelong is a club players want to come to, not go out of, and that’s a big part of why they’ve been so good so long.

    Geelong players by contract status
    Patrick Dangerfield

    Mitch Duncan
    Tom Hawkins
    Sam Menegola
    James Parsons
    Zach Tuohy

    Jed Bews
    Wylie Buzza
    Nakia Cockatoo
    Jordan Cunico
    Jake Kolodjashnij
    Brandan Parfitt
    Joel Selwood

    Ryan Abbott
    Mark Blicavs
    Cory Gregson
    Cam Guthrie
    George Horlin-Smith
    Tim House
    Jordan Murdoch
    Quinton Narkle
    Esava Ratugolea
    Tom Stewart
    Harry Taylor
    Jackson Thurlow

    Out of contract
    Josh Cowan
    Ryan Gardner
    Zach Guthrie (R)
    Matthew Hayball
    Jack Henry (R)
    Jamaine Jones (R)
    Darcy Lang
    Tom Lonergan
    Andrew Mackie
    Lincoln McCarthy
    Daniel Menzel
    Steven Motlop
    Mark O’Connor (R)
    Tom Ruggles
    Sam Simpson (R)

    Aaron Black
    Lachie Henderson
    Scott Selwood
    Zac Smith
    Rhys Stanley

    Delistings and retirements

    Tom Lonergan and Andrew Mackie, the two oldest players on Geelong’s list, have already confirmed their retirements. They won’t have any other retirees this year.

    Josh Cowan, Ryan Gardner, Lincoln McCarthy and Tom Ruggles are all potential delistees, though their futures may depend on the comings and goings of free agency and the trade period.

    Free agency

    Josh Cowan (unrestricted)
    Steven Motlop (restricted)
    Daniel Menzel (unrestricted)

    Josh Cowan doesn’t appear likely to have any suitors and will either get a new deal from the Cats or see the end of his AFL career.

    Steven Motlop and Daniel Menzel are where it gets interesting for Geelong. Both of them are talented and both have plenty of football left in them, but it seems both of them are on the outer.

    Steven Motlop Geelong Cats AFL 2017

    Motlop has been a headache at times for the Cats throughout the years. He had an incredible breakout 2013 season but hasn’t been able to sustain that kind of form in the years since, and his fitness and commitment often come under question.

    He’s reportedly been on a decent-sized contract these past few years which his form just hasn’t lived up to the weight of. He was shopped around at the trade table last year and there were no takers, likely for exactly this reason.

    Now he is a free agent and clubs can pay him whatever they like and don’t have to make a trade deal for him – that makes him a much more attractive prospect to roll the dice on.

    There don’t seem to be any clear suitors at this stage. North Melbourne and Richmond were both said to be interested but both seem to have turned away. Port Adelaide might be the most likely chance at the moment but talk of a move there is a bit cold too.

    As for Menzel, his story is a remarkable one, coming back from multiple consecutive ACL injuries to be a regular part of the Geelong side this year and ultimately kicking 40 goals from 19 games in 2017.

    He was dropped for Geelong’s first final though, with his defensive pressure not up to the standard the Cats expect, despite his ability to regularly hit the scoreboard.

    He has reportedly been offered only a one-year deal with the Cats for 2018 and the deal would require him to take a pay cut – it’s going to be hard to sign a contract like that no matter how much he loves the club.

    Daniel Menzel Geelong Cats AFL 2017

    From the outside it looks like both Motlop and Menzel are being pushed out by the Cats, and while both have their flaws, it’s hard to understand at first glance why this might be.

    I suspect it largely comes down to salary cap concerns. The Cats have their eyes on some significant targets this offseason and there comes a point where you just can’t afford to pay everyone.

    This is particularly a problem when you go down the road that the Cats have of regularly trading in players, as you generally need to pay these a little above market value to attract them to the club.

    It may ultimately cost Geelong Motlop and Menzel, but they appear to be players that the Cats believe they can live without.

    Of course, another incentive for Geelong to move the pair on is that their departures will result in compensation draft picks, perhaps one each in the second round, and these could be spun into trade deals.

    Trade period

    On Tuesday one of footy’s worst kept secrets became official news when Gary Ablett formally requested a trade to come back home to Geelong.

    Ablett is contracted until the end of 2018 and Gold Coast have said that for a deal to be done, Geelong will need to meet certain expectations – the Cats say they will work with the Suns to try to make this happen.

    Gary Ablett AFL Geelong Cats

    The early word is that Gold Coast have asked for Mitch Duncan in return for Ablett, or failing that, Nakia Cockatoo, a pair of requests so outlandishly ridiculous that we’re not going to dignify them with any further discussion.

    As they did with Jaeger O’Meara the Suns will eventually bend and take an offer that’s a bit closer to fair, though it’s worth asking what really is a fair deal for a 33-year-old who might only have 20 games or so left in his body.

    Much like Hawthorn trying to secure O’Meara last year I suspect the Cats would be happy enough to send a player to Gold Coast in order to get a deal done if that’s really what it takes, but they will run into the same roadblock: no one in their right mind wants to go there. Gold Coast have no one other than themselves to blame for that.

    Keep an eye on Darcy Lang here. He is out of contract at Geelong and if told that a new one is not forthcoming might be willing to be part of the Gold Coast deal. A second-round pick, possibly one received as compensation for Steven Motlop or Daniel Menzel leaving the club, could be part of the deal as well.

    The other man high on Geelong’s priority list is Bulldog Jake Stringer.

    Jake Stringer Western Bulldogs AFL 2017

    Although Stringer hasn’t officially declared a club of choice just yet, he looks certain to move teams this year and some believe he is set to nominate Geelong as his preferred destination – take this with a grain of salt, of course.

    The Cats will need to pay a higher price here than they will for Ablett – Stringer is almost a decade younger and despite what other worries come attached, he is a proven All Australian quality forward.

    I would suspect that it will be as simple as a swap for either pick 20 this year (Carlton’s second rounder, obtained last year in the Zach Tuohy trade), or Geelong’s 2018 first-rounder. The Cats will offer the former, the Dogs will push for the latter.

    The other player Geelong have been linked to throughout the year is Devon Smith of GWS, and for a while it was believed that they were his most likely destination.

    That seems unlikely to be the case now though, with the unexpected availability of Stringer having become Geelong’s top priority, and Smith is reportedly now most likely to join Carlton.


    First three rounds: 20, 33.

    Both of these picks might well wind up being part of trade deals to land Ablett or Stringer, and it looks like once again the Cats will make little to no real investment in the draft.


    As more than a decade of time has passed since they first tasted premiership success the different parts that made up Geelong’s grand era have gradually withered and needed to be replaced, and the Cats have done so by hitting the trade table and hitting it hard.

    That’s a strategy that has breathed life back into the club in the same way that an organ transplant will for the human body. They’ve brought in five middle-tier players in the last two years and that has taken them from missing finals in 2015 to back-to-back preliminary finals.

    Patrick Dangerfield Geelong Cats AFL 2016

    The thing about this kind of strategy is that it’s expensive. You have to pay players well to lure them across and you wind up trading valuable draft picks to get the deal done. It’s also only a temporary fix.

    The Cats’ big advantage here is that they’re a club players really want to be a part of. If Patrick Dangerfield sold himself on the open market he could probably make half a million more per year than he does at Geelong. That kind of pulling power is invaluable.

    Geelong aren’t dumb, they know that all eras end and they’re probably aware that there’ll be a few years of bottoming out when this one does.

    If I thought that changing strategies now, knocking back players who want to come to the club and investing in the draft might prevent that, I might recommend that strategy – but I reckon Geelong have gone too far down this path to not go the whole way.

    So long as there’s elite talents like Gary Ablett and Jake Stringer wanting to come to the club they’re making the right call to double-down and see if they can squeeze one more premiership out of Joel Selwood’s career.

    A Dangerfield-Selwood-Ablett centre bounce team is going to be something truly amazing to behold. All three would potentially be the best player on the list at most clubs. It’s like the Ark of the Covenant – it’ll melt our faces off, but you want to see it opened just as much as I do.

    I predict that in the early 2020s, Geelong will be a bottom-six team – but they may well snag another flag or two between now and then.

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    Josh Elliott may be The Roar's Weekend Editor, but at heart he's just a rusted-on North Melbourne tragic with a penchant for pun headlines - and also abnormal alliteration, assuredly; assuming achievability. He once finished third in a hot chilli pie eating contest. You can follow him on Twitter @JoshElliott_29 and listen to him on The Roar's AFL Podcast.

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    The Crowd Says (54)

    • September 28th 2017 @ 5:07am
      DeanM said | September 28th 2017 @ 5:07am | ! Report

      Trade the overpaid spud Hawkins for Stringer and save the draft pick.

      • Roar Guru

        September 28th 2017 @ 7:17am
        Cat said | September 28th 2017 @ 7:17am | ! Report

        One of only 3 players who are on back-to-back 50 goal seasons … but yep he is a ‘spud’ /sarcasm.

        • September 28th 2017 @ 12:48pm
          Nathan Hook said | September 28th 2017 @ 12:48pm | ! Report

          Hasn’t performed when it matters most for many years though now.

          Seasons are fine, but finals are when it counts, and when it counts he is a spud (no sarcasm).

    • Roar Guru

      September 28th 2017 @ 7:29am
      Cat said | September 28th 2017 @ 7:29am | ! Report

      Keep an eye on Darcy Lang here. He is out of contract at Geelong and if told that a new one is not forthcoming might be willing to be part of the Gold Coast deal.

      Lang was told before the Swans final that he was not going to be offered a new contract.

      • Editor

        September 28th 2017 @ 8:47am
        Josh Elliott said | September 28th 2017 @ 8:47am | ! Report

        I don’t think that’s been formally confirmed, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was true.

    • September 28th 2017 @ 7:52am
      Pumping Dougie said | September 28th 2017 @ 7:52am | ! Report

      That’s a Ryan-esque length article, Josh.

      I can’t see the Dogs trading Stringer for anything lower than pick 10. We might as well keep him if people like Josh realistically reckon he’s only worth pick 20.

      He’s a pick 6 player who has delivered on that pick. 5 years later with 90 games, an AA and premiership medal under his belt, it stands to reason his value should have increased. The “baggage” people suggest he carries amounts purely to not applying enough defensive pressure and not being professional enough in his preparation. Offensively, he’s an absolute gun and with this very public kick up his backside, its highly likely he’ll be keen to prove Bevo and the public wrong.

      • September 28th 2017 @ 8:13am
        Sammy said | September 28th 2017 @ 8:13am | ! Report

        If there was any chance that stringer was interested in amove interstate, the crows would have been mad to not look at him and with the 1st round picks they will have from lever heading back to melbourne, they could have offered one of those and a second round pick to better satisfy the dogs. He would have gone straight into the half forward line and made the best attack in the league better again…..

      • Editor

        September 28th 2017 @ 8:51am
        Josh Elliott said | September 28th 2017 @ 8:51am | ! Report

        Cheers PD. All the ones in this series are pretty lengthy, will have written a small novel by the time I’m done.

        On talent alone I’d say Stringer is definitely worth a top five pick or two late first-rounders, but obviously talent isn’t the only consideration here.

        Can’t say from outside the four walls exactly what it is that’s happening but the fact the Dogs have officially washed their hands of him and put him on the market does raise several red flags.

        It weakens their bargaining position a fair bit too that they want him gone. They’ve said only for the right deal but that just seems like blustering.

        I definitely reckon you ought to keep him. His talent is too good to give up on.

        • September 28th 2017 @ 10:06am
          Brian said | September 28th 2017 @ 10:06am | ! Report

          I don’t agree on a top 5 pick for Stringer, but the Saints and Bombers both have picks well before 20 that would surely be a better offer for Dogs then Geelong’s pick 20.

          • Roar Guru

            September 28th 2017 @ 10:39am
            Cat said | September 28th 2017 @ 10:39am | ! Report

            Yes, other teams have more currency, but as we’ve seen in past years, it doesn’t matter where the best deal may lie, it only matters who the player nominates. Players can block any trade they don’t want. Yes, the Bulldogs have the option of keeping him but if it was so easy to patch things up and ‘make it work’ surely they would have done so and no put him up for trade so publicly. Much like Ablett at GC, I can’t see Stringer staying with the Dogs. Something will get done, the relationship is too broken now to go back.

            • September 28th 2017 @ 12:12pm
              Brian said | September 28th 2017 @ 12:12pm | ! Report

              You guys have done well in the past, particulary Dangerfield and even Smith. However in terms of salary cap room and offerings for the Dogs one would think St Kilda, Essendon and maybe some others have a much better hand going in.

              Why wouldn’t Carlton or Melbourne (who is their 2nd forward?) also want Stringer running around for them

              • Roar Guru

                September 28th 2017 @ 12:25pm
                Cat said | September 28th 2017 @ 12:25pm | ! Report

                As I said before, it won’t matter what any team has if and once Stringer nominates a destination. It’s not right, but that’s how the system currently works. If Stringer says he wants to only go to the Cats the Bulldogs will have to make a deal with the Cats or keep a player they obviously want gone.

              • September 28th 2017 @ 4:49pm
                Mattyb said | September 28th 2017 @ 4:49pm | ! Report

                Gene,who did Deludio nominate last year?

              • September 28th 2017 @ 5:41pm
                Pumping Dougie said | September 28th 2017 @ 5:41pm | ! Report

                Great point Matty.

                I guess that trade squares out the imbecilic trade for Yarran by Richmond. Terrible trade deal for GWS though.

                If the industry used the Deledio trade as a yardstick then Stringer is worth four first round picks. ?

              • Roar Guru

                September 28th 2017 @ 5:47pm
                Cat said | September 28th 2017 @ 5:47pm | ! Report

                MattyB, as far as I know Lids never nominated anyone, he was open to whatever came about. Stringer may be open to multiple destinations too, who knows. My point remains though. It won’t matter what any club offers the Dogs if Stringer doesn’t okay the trade to that club. If Jake sets his mind on going to a single club then that who the Dogs will need to deal with. Players have all the power. Just like the Suns can’t shop Ablett to other Vic clubs to get the best deal.

              • September 28th 2017 @ 7:00pm
                Mattyb said | September 28th 2017 @ 7:00pm | ! Report

                Gene,I thought Deludio nominated Geelong but they couldn’t get the deal done,so Richmond dealt elsewhere.
                I agree with you to a point,I think Stringer will be happy to go to a Victorian club though.The club and Stringer might sought this all out.but it does seem unlikely. The media is over dramatising things slightly as both the club and player have never said their differences are beyond repair.

              • Roar Guru

                September 29th 2017 @ 5:47pm
                Cat said | September 29th 2017 @ 5:47pm | ! Report


                Deledio, 29, had earmarked Geelong as his preferred home, but when a deal couldn’t be struck the 243-game former No.1 draft pick sought out the Giants.

                Deledio was the driver behind where he ended up. He was willing to change where he wanted to end up when a deal couldn’t be done (thankfully we dodged that bad idea).
                A player being willing tto accept multiple destinations does and can happen, but its the exception rather than the norm. Plenty of other players have insisted on only going to a single club and the original clubs had to settle for less than they may have gotten otherwise.

            • September 28th 2017 @ 2:36pm
              Brayden Rise said | September 28th 2017 @ 2:36pm | ! Report

              Damian Barrett today claims Stringer could become a Dusty Martin in a couple of years….surely that’s a stretch?

              • September 28th 2017 @ 4:26pm
                Birdman said | September 28th 2017 @ 4:26pm | ! Report

                yep – Barrett’s a Bulldogs supporter who wants to bolster his trade value – transparent fail

              • September 28th 2017 @ 4:48pm
                Mattyb said | September 28th 2017 @ 4:48pm | ! Report

                Birdman,Barrett certainly isn’t a Bulldogs supporter,in fact the Dogs refuse to speak with him due to the Talia incident. Also apparently Beveridge ran into him at the Brownlow a couple of years ago and alledgadly words and subsequent threats were exchanged,but lets not let the truth get in the way of a good story.
                Stevo from channel 7 is a Doggies supporter so maybe you have the two confused,I don’t know.

      • September 28th 2017 @ 10:15am
        I ate pies said | September 28th 2017 @ 10:15am | ! Report

        Geez I hope we keep him Dougie. I reckon he’ll explode next year

    • September 28th 2017 @ 8:37am
      Birdman said | September 28th 2017 @ 8:37am | ! Report

      better starting writing a ‘Essendon should and can land Jake Stringer’ article, Josh

      • Editor

        September 28th 2017 @ 8:52am
        Josh Elliott said | September 28th 2017 @ 8:52am | ! Report

        Ha, unfortunately I already tackled the Dons before the Stringer rumours started. He’d certainly be a good fit there too. If the word that they wouldn’t want to give up a first rounder for him is correct, not sure how a deal gets done.

        • September 28th 2017 @ 10:25am
          Birdman said | September 28th 2017 @ 10:25am | ! Report

          true, Josh – a lot of water to flow under that bridge given the Dons’ reputation for being lousy trade partners.

    • September 28th 2017 @ 8:41am
      Brayden Rise said | September 28th 2017 @ 8:41am | ! Report

      Josh, IMO that’s a brilliant sum up of where the Cats are at and also one enjoyable read, you would be a ripping replacement for Robbo at the Herald Sun….like the analogy of the organ transplant and also the Ark of the Covenant especially. The impact of landing Danger is huge isn’t it with a real domino effect on the whole strategy of the club. Just shows what one of the best two players in the competition can do to a club as well as for a club. They are a fascinating club and as Cat stated yesterday they give their fans expectation of contending every year. While others go back to go forward, they just top up and stay up. Their so called finals fails well if you make a prelim final perhaps they just found themselves the wrong side of the prelims…the big surprise for me in your summary was Hawkins contracted until 2020. Not sure if he can play another three years as a big impact forward. Could they think like a Richmond forward line and offload Hawk this year as a strategy while he still has currency? Stringer would replace his 50 goals and is just 23?

      • Editor

        September 28th 2017 @ 8:55am
        Josh Elliott said | September 28th 2017 @ 8:55am | ! Report

        Cheers Brayden. If I shaved my head and had a few drinks before each article (and whose saying I don’t do that already?) I’m sure no one would even notice the difference.

        For mine the Stringer recruitment works best if he gets to play as a second-fiddle to someone, as he doesn’t really play the traditional No.1 forward role, so no chance I’d consider moving on Hawkins.

        • September 28th 2017 @ 9:04am
          Brayden Rise said | September 28th 2017 @ 9:04am | ! Report

          Interesting isn’t it…Jack Riewoldt is 1.95 m and 93 kilos, Stringer 1.92 and 91 kilos. Stringer is young, turning 24 next April. I believe he has the potential to become as good as Jack Riewoldt now he has had a huge kick in his ample backside and Jack seems to be playing largely a decoy role for the Tigers in the finals.

        • Roar Guru

          September 28th 2017 @ 9:18am
          Paul D said | September 28th 2017 @ 9:18am | ! Report

          You’d also need to get good at that angsty teenage girl almost-crying he does when he’s vomiting his latest feelpinion all over the 360 desk

          • September 28th 2017 @ 4:27pm
            Birdman said | September 28th 2017 @ 4:27pm | ! Report

            yep – well put Paul D

    • September 28th 2017 @ 9:06am
      Milo said | September 28th 2017 @ 9:06am | ! Report

      Fingers crossed Geelong gets both.

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