Nine talking points from Wallabies vs Ireland first Test

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    It was a great first Test match of the June internationals between Australia and Ireland in Brisbane, and all fans are surely very excited that we’ve got two more matches to enjoy over the coming weeks.

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    But behind the celebrations of a good win for the Wallabies, what are the talking points that need to be discussed and debated ahead of the second Test in Melbourne next Saturday?

    Pooper works
    Michael Hooper and David Pocock are two of Australia’s most important players, and fans have hoped that their reunion would be a thing of beauty and not, as has happened in the past, a surprisingly ineffective combination.

    Well rest easy – Pooper is back and it works. While Pocock was arguably the star of the show in this game, the combination together seemed to work well. The Wallabies turned the ball over from the Irish 14 times, with some of these being absolutely critical as Australia looked to withstand Ireland’s attack.

    What was just as nice to see as Pooper working, was Hooper not being found hanging around in the outside backs as often as he can be. He’s a great talent with good hands and a turn of pace that many centres would be envious of, but he is of more value to the Wallabies in the trenches getting the ball quickly for the likes of Kurtley Beale, Bernard Foley and Israel Folau to make something happen.

    Oh David, where have you been?!
    Yes, Pooper worked well but even more so, Pocock reminded everyone of what Australia has been missing since he left. The guy was awesome and while he did give away a few penalties with his on the edge rucking approach, he more than made up for that with his other contributions in both defence and attack.

    He just makes any side he is in better not just by his own individual performance, but he seems to genuinely make the players around him better. It’s a great battle between both the Wallabies and Irish back rows in this series and Pocock has made sure that the Aussies have drawn first blood.

    Genia is in some great form
    Speaking of great experience and form – Will Genia had a very good game. The clash between him and Conor Murray for the Irish is a really interesting one in this series and Genia showed in this game that he still has a lot to offer the Wallabies.

    Without him the gap to Nick Phipps is huge and Michael Cheika needs the 30-year-old Rebel to stay fit and healthy.

    One specific play of the game highlighted Genia’s value. In the 70th minute, Folau had taken a great high ball and the Wallabies were looking to take advantage of the moment. Knowing that the back three for the Irish were up as they had been there to compete with Folau for the high ball, Genia knew the right move was not to pass the ball out but to attack the space.

    He kicked nicely over the top of the ruck and forced the Irish chasing back where they conceded a penalty and gave Australia a great scoring opportunity.

    That awareness and then ability to execute those all-important plays is critical if the Wallabies want to win this Test series and threaten the best at the World Cup.

    Will Genia

    (Photo by Gabriel Rossi/Getty Images)

    Follow the leader – but which one?
    In previous seasons there has been much criticism about the lack of strong leadership among the Wallabies. Against Ireland, there was almost too much flowing around.

    At one point the Wallabies had a penalty in front of the posts. They were one point behind and there were just ten minutes left. Around the ball at the time were Genia, Hooper and Pocock and it looked as if Hooper was keen to push for the try.

    Genia, however, seemed to be indicating towards the post and urged his skipper to take the 3, get the lead and force the Irish to have to chase. Hooper went with that decision and history shows it worked out very well.

    This could potentially be a great new strength for the Wallabies – a brain trust that makes good decisions. Or it could cause some real issues as Hooper’s usual desire to push and attack is challenged by the respected Genia and Pocock.

    Let’s get physical
    The Wallabies brought a level of measured physicality to their performance against the Irish that was scary. Their rush defence meant the Irish backs regularly found themselves taking man and ball and had little time to do anything too clever.

    The power in the tackles was also impressive and when combined with the speed of the rush the Wallabies made their defence a genuine weapon.

    Players like Adam Coleman have always been aggressive and he did cost the Aussies a couple of times with his efforts, but it was a real team commitment to hitting the Irish hard for 80 minutes that saw the second best team in the world unable to score a single try in the entire game.

    Discipline an issue
    That being said, the overall discipline was still a bit of a problem for the Wallabies. 11 penalties in the game isn’t the end of the world, but it was when the penalties were conceded that will frustrate Cheika.

    Several of those 11 penalties gave the Irish real attacking chances or allowed them to clear with ease. If the Wallabies can cut out half of them then that will make them significantly harder to beat in Game 2.

    Wallabies backs look good with the ball in hand
    The threat of Folau in the air is well known to everyone and has been a weapon for the Aussies for a while. But in the Brisbane Test, the Wallabies backs showed that their ball in hand skills should not be ignored.

    Several times the backs put real pace on an attack and spun the ball out wide to give their wingers space and chance to threaten. Beale and Samu Kerevi looked like a dangerous centre partnership which is great as there were questions about how well Kerevi would perform at #13, having looked so good for the Reds at #12.

    Samu Kerevi

    (Photo by Matt Roberts/Getty Images)

    There were still a few examples where the Aussies kicked the ball away poorly – hopefully there will be less of this as they recognise the threat they are with ball in hand.

    Set piece ups and downs
    The Aussie scrum was solid and at times really destructive against a strong Irish pack. It’s been a long time since the Wallabies could view their scrum as a weapon but that’s happening and can only be a good thing.

    The lineout was less impressive though with almost 20% of them lost to the visitors. In this game it didn’t cost them anything to worry about, but if the Irish feel that the line out is a persistent weakness then come Game 2 this could cause some real pressure for the home side.

    Bring on Game 2!
    It was a great win for the Wallabies and such an entertaining game with both sides giving everything right until the bitter end. The next seven days can’t go fast enough so we can do it all again in Melbourne.

    The Irish will want to figure out a way to threaten the Aussie try line as they won’t be able to rely purely on penalty goals, but they will come back harder and wiser so Cheika’s men will need to raise their game.

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    • Roar Rookie

      June 10th 2018 @ 8:23am
      KiwiHaydn said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:23am | ! Report

      Unfortunate that a lack of skill/execution cost some extra points at the end too. Overall a pretty satisfying performance by the Wallabies, I’m sure. How good did Beale look running from depth? With him at fullback and Folau on the wing, teams would be dreading kicking over the top!

      • June 10th 2018 @ 8:29am
        Dave_S said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:29am | ! Report

        KH I don’t disagree about Beale running from deep, but as he showed last night he’s even more important to the WBs as the second playmaker.

        • June 10th 2018 @ 9:15am
          Bigtree Smallaxe said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:15am | ! Report

          I was quite impressed by Beale’s defence last night as well. He did a great job on Bundee Aki. The lineout seemed to improve a whole lot once Latu and Simmons came on. Scrum was better with Tupou.

          • Roar Guru

            June 10th 2018 @ 11:48am
            jeznez said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:48am | ! Report

            I’d be reluctant to change a winning team but that would be the only changes I’d consider Latu and/or Simmons for Paenga-Amosa and/or Rodda.

            If they both swapped starters for bench then I believe the lineout would be stronger, scrum would remain strong. We’d just lose a little with Simmons clean out but I think the rest of the pack are strong enough to cover that.

            But – they won, I’d be quite happy if Cheika rolled them straight on to the next game with no changes.

            Feel a bit for Alan Alaalatoa – missed due to getting injured at training but Robertson surely deserves to retain his spot after that effort off the bench.

            • Roar Guru

              June 10th 2018 @ 12:13pm
              PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:13pm | ! Report

              Agree re possible changes to fix the lineout.

              I would also consider Arnold on the bench instead of Rodda and Alaalatoa for Robertson.

              They both add even more physicality as bench finishers.

              What I don’t want to see as a fix for the lineout is Hanigan back.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 2:22pm
                RahRah said | June 10th 2018 @ 2:22pm | ! Report

                I’d retain Rodda, he brings the physicality that Simmons just can’t, the kid will improve a lot with more time, how much improvement is left in Arnold? Have to agree with Alaalatoa.
                And yes PK, I’m feeling a bit “antsy” when it comes to the possibility of Hannigan’s return. No one deserved to be dropped to make way for him – let’s wait and see Cheika’s reel state of mind.

            • June 10th 2018 @ 12:25pm
              Angus Kennedy said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:25pm | ! Report

              Robertson offers a lot around the field but make no mistake, he was struggling in the scrum, even the tighthead when it went forward on his side. Watch a replay, he is in a slightly awkward position with his head down in relation to his shoulders and is very unsteady, shaking with the force of the effort. Good on him, he held the scrum and contributed to the tight head but the impetus for that scrum win came from the other side where their loose head was destroyed. Robertson put in a massive effort, no doubt causing significant pain in the execution and held it up well. However, a stronger scrummager would ensure our excellent scrum, which was just dominant, not strikingly so, would improve even more and ensure that platform for success which a dominant scrum can do.
              Robertson also added impact with his ball carries and very good defence, so it is a difficult call. However, we know he is a Cheika favourite so I tip he will be in the 23 next week.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 1:23pm
                Reverse Wheel said | June 10th 2018 @ 1:23pm | ! Report

                I agree about robertson’s carries, he consistently got well over the advantage line.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 4:34pm
                Akari said | June 10th 2018 @ 4:34pm | ! Report

                I’m glad Roarers are now starting to recognise the value that Robertson brings to the team. He has been playing very well this year for the Tahs and more consistently than Alan A has been and I’m a Brumbies supporter.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 5:58pm
                Cliff Bishkek said | June 10th 2018 @ 5:58pm | ! Report

                Robertson’s core responsibility is to hold up the scrum as a prop and in that regard he fails miserably more times than he succeeds. His field running is good, not magnificent but good. However, we must ensure scrum parity when we come up against very good scrum technicians!!

              • June 10th 2018 @ 6:56pm
                jameswm said | June 10th 2018 @ 6:56pm | ! Report

                Who’s better? AA injured, JP Smith ineligible. Sio starting. Robertson would be about the 4th ranked LH.

              • Roar Guru

                June 10th 2018 @ 10:31pm
                jeznez said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:31pm | ! Report

                Definitely should have been picked with AA injured and Slipper out with his off pitch issues.

                And did enough on the weekend to hold his spot. Hopefully he continues to go well – I’m not sold but will be pleasantly surprised if he keeps scrumming well.

                He works hard around the pitch – wort case he is going to force Sio and AA to work hard too.

            • Roar Rookie

              June 10th 2018 @ 6:25pm
              Die hard said | June 10th 2018 @ 6:25pm | ! Report

              I agree as well. Still not sure about Coleman. Maybe keep Rodda and bench Coleman.

              But overall I was super impressed with the Wallabys. All of them. They bought the right attitude. Even Cheika looked more stately. Fast up off the ground. Heads up. Making and taking opportunities.

              Still wondering what the game plan was but it doesn’t matter

              • June 10th 2018 @ 7:37pm
                Morsie said | June 10th 2018 @ 7:37pm | ! Report

                Game plan, score more points than the opposition. Perfect.

          • June 10th 2018 @ 5:55pm
            Cliff Bishkek said | June 10th 2018 @ 5:55pm | ! Report

            I must offer my apologies to Kurtley Beale as to his tackling. After last night I should never question his ability to tackle. He was very impressive and monstered several tackles.

            I hope it is a permanent fixture of his game. Well done Kurtley!!

            • Roar Guru

              June 10th 2018 @ 5:59pm
              PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 5:59pm | ! Report

              Very gracious, well done

        • Roar Guru

          June 10th 2018 @ 9:59am
          PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:59am | ! Report

          in reality Beale is the primary playmaker not Foley

          • Roar Guru

            June 10th 2018 @ 11:42am
            eagleJack said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:42am | ! Report

            Not really. But they definitely work well together as a unit.

          • June 10th 2018 @ 12:36pm
            Dave_S said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:36pm | ! Report

            Semantic arguments aside as to who is the primary, Foley and Beale are a good solid attack combo I would be reluctant to change. And Beale’s improved defence largely fixed the musical chairs problem.

            • Roar Guru

              June 10th 2018 @ 12:40pm
              PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:40pm | ! Report

              Agree

            • June 10th 2018 @ 12:44pm
              Fionn said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:44pm | ! Report

              Beale grows enormously in defence when he puts on the gold. It was wonderful to see how much effort he put in defensively last night. A lot of the guys seem to grow enormously when playing for the Wallabies as opposed to their SR teams.

              • Roar Guru

                June 10th 2018 @ 12:55pm
                PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:55pm | ! Report

                that is a strength of cheika’s , motivating players , and yes having a good team culture.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 8:32pm
                cm said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:32pm | ! Report

                Beale’s defence has been much improved since his stint with Wasps.

            • Roar Guru

              June 10th 2018 @ 5:59pm
              PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 5:59pm | ! Report

              secondary playmaker, a running 12 with a 10 on his back.

      • June 10th 2018 @ 1:10pm
        Angus Kennedy said | June 10th 2018 @ 1:10pm | ! Report

        Skill and execution were all fine for the Boks. Is everyone at the Roar having the day off? Where is the Bok/England thread? What a victory that was.

        • Roar Guru

          June 10th 2018 @ 1:15pm
          Cadfael said | June 10th 2018 @ 1:15pm | ! Report

          24-3 up and the poms still lose. Eddie felt the crowd got to the ref.

          • Roar Guru

            June 10th 2018 @ 1:21pm
            PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 1:21pm | ! Report

            a big part is the nz ref O’Keefe allowed pilfers at rucks, the English team struggle with that since most NH refs have made it virtually impossible.

            • June 10th 2018 @ 4:26pm
              JimmyB said | June 10th 2018 @ 4:26pm | ! Report

              Well the red only reffed one team a 17-4 penalty count was ridiculous. Anyway, despite that, congrats to SA.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 4:35pm
                cuw said | June 10th 2018 @ 4:35pm | ! Report

                hmmm – interesting

                i thought it was 12 : 5 penalties , but then if it suits the argument….

              • June 10th 2018 @ 10:10pm
                JimmyB said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:10pm | ! Report

                Just read that the pen count was 12-4, sure that I heard Eddie say that it was 17-4 in his interview.

              • Roar Guru

                June 10th 2018 @ 6:37pm
                PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 6:37pm | ! Report

                Anything England penalised for that SA also did and wasn’t penalised?

              • June 10th 2018 @ 10:01pm
                JimmyB said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:01pm | ! Report

                Yeah, holding on. England got a few, but no way near as many as they should. SAs last try was scored after a bok got isolated and had two England players over him trying to wrestle the ball off him, it was a penalty all day long, play on cry’s the ref, SA score on the very next phase.

          • June 10th 2018 @ 3:50pm
            cuw said | June 10th 2018 @ 3:50pm | ! Report

            Eddie is nuts.

            before the match he build up Iskiewe – then even before half time , he pulls him out and replaces with Brad Shields IN THE 2nd ROW!!!

            now when was the last time Brad played in 2nd row, ffs???

            it was clear during the BaaBaa game that Robshaw has lost pace and cannot keep up.

            • June 10th 2018 @ 6:05pm
              Cliff Bishkek said | June 10th 2018 @ 6:05pm | ! Report

              Eddie Jones is a woeful Coach. He is a 1 year or two year magician and after that he offers nothing. He has excuses and excuses but quite frankly – and I am not a Cheika fan, Cheika seems to be beating him in terms of intelligence!!

              Cheika went well last night in his selections and the backrow selections were great and I hope this is a sings of him rewarding form and ability. But I withhold my decision on doing a positive review and stating that he is a good Coach!!

              • June 10th 2018 @ 9:43pm
                double agent said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:43pm | ! Report

                I tend to agree with you Cliff but the 0-5 record for Cheika doesn’t look good.

        • June 10th 2018 @ 3:06pm
          Ralph said | June 10th 2018 @ 3:06pm | ! Report

          Terrific match.

        • June 11th 2018 @ 5:51pm
          ScottD said | June 11th 2018 @ 5:51pm | ! Report

          Write an article Angus 🙂

      • June 10th 2018 @ 9:38pm
        double agent said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:38pm | ! Report

        Beale’s best game in a long time.

      • June 12th 2018 @ 10:29pm
        PiratesRugby said | June 12th 2018 @ 10:29pm | ! Report

        The Pooper works in spite of itself. That is, we got away with it. We need to pick a 7. Either Hooper or Pocock, not both. We need a real 8.
        We can’t drop Hooper because of Cheika’s love of him. We can’t drop Pocock because he’s the best player on the ground. So we’re left with the Pooper. How apt.

    • June 10th 2018 @ 8:26am
      richard said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:26am | ! Report

      Very impressed with the WB’s display,and no doubt Pocock’s influence played a pivotal role in the result.In this form,the WB’s have the ability to clean sweep the series.

    • June 10th 2018 @ 8:29am
      SP said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:29am | ! Report

      Another point: Ireland were talked up endlessly as world beaters. I’d never seen them play before last night except for a few snippets. Talk about overhyped. People accuse the Wallabies and English talking themselves up. They’ve got nothing on these Irish.

      How did such a one dimensional and limited side win the 6N? Nullify their kicking game and they’ve got nothing. Scotland, Wales and even England are far more skillful with ball in hand.

      And what about this supposed Irish wundercoach? Gave his team no plan B,C or D. They barely had a plan A.

      • June 10th 2018 @ 8:50am
        mzilikazi said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:50am | ! Report

        “Another point: Ireland were talked up endlessly as world beaters. I’d never seen them play before last night except for a few snippets. Talk about overhyped”

        No, I don’t agree, SP. I am Irish born, though now an Australian. My memories of Ireland go back to the days of Jack Kyle, and as a scholls coach, nine of my players have worn the Irish Green. I would rate this as the best Irish team I have seen in my lifetime.

        I would say that this Irish team has not been fully developed as yet. The forwards are very impressive, and I would expect will seriosly challenge the AB’s when/if they meet in RWC 2019. But as yet, the approach of the team is too forward orientated. Ireland have great backs, but until they use them properly, as the AB’s do with their backs, this Irish team will not reach full potential.

        I certainly would not be writing them off for this series. The Wallabies will have to play really well in Melbounre and Sydney to see this Irish team leave these shores winless.

        ” I’d never seen them play before last night except for a few snippets. ” In the kindest possible tone, I would say you would be wise to actually watch some Ireland games from Six Nations….i would think you might change some of your comments then.

        Also, do you realise the amount of rugby these Irish players have been involved in over the past couple of years, even the past six months. Check the facts. These guys will now be fatigued, and it is a huge ask to now take on the Wallabies in Australia.

        • June 10th 2018 @ 9:23am
          Dan Kawhia said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:23am | ! Report

          6 nations ?????? yeah we saw France and England before and after. Is that what you call 6 nations. And wales beat a super rugby team who has been towards the bottom of the table by 7. Go figure

          • Roar Rookie

            June 10th 2018 @ 9:39am
            Paulo said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:39am | ! Report

            I wouldn’t be writing the Irish off so quickly. Well done by the Wallabies and they did look dangerous last night, but the score line wasn’t huge and Ireland were still in it 10mins to go, so could have gone either way. Plenty to improve on and polish for both teams, so next week will be a good test of the coaches to see what improvements they can ring up in a w eek. Still any ones series, but going one up, you would have to put your money on Wallabies.

          • June 10th 2018 @ 10:02pm
            Philip O'Donovan said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:02pm | ! Report

            Yes,the Six Nations is by far and away the most popular annual rugby tournament in the world.I suggest you go figure.

        • Roar Guru

          June 10th 2018 @ 9:41am
          Kane said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:41am | ! Report

          Also, do you realise the amount of rugby these Irish players have been involved in over the past couple of years, even the past six months.

          I’d be very surprised if it was any more than the Wallaby players.

          • June 10th 2018 @ 9:26pm
            Mzilikazi said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:26pm | ! Report

            I don’t have comparable stats. , Kane, but the Lions tour of NZ, and then the Six Nations, and finally the crazy season end in Europe with their Cup Finals. The Leinster boys certainly had a very big final month before heading to Australia.

            But do agree the Super players do travel more air kms in a season.

        • June 10th 2018 @ 11:01am
          SP said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:01am | ! Report

          What on earth citing your ancestry has to do with anything is beyond me.
          According to the gurus and experts on The Roar and countless posters on other sites, the mighty Irish supermen were talked up as the 2nd coming. With their super coach by their side they were gonna wipe the floor with a Wallaby carcass 3-zip.
          They had their chance to show what they’ve got and it was very little.
          They are a limited and one dimensional team. Maybe my opinion will change next week. Certainly many posters on the Guardian, BBC,606v2 etc seem to think next week will be a cakewalk for the Irish, just as they did this week.
          I don’t need to watch the 6N to judge Ireland. Doesn’t matter one whit how they play against other teams. How they play against Australia is what matters.

          • Roar Guru

            June 10th 2018 @ 11:57am
            jeznez said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:57am | ! Report

            They were impressive in the 6N’s, played their junior flyhalf last night and missed their gun flanker Leavy.

            I suspect both Sexton and Leavy will start/play next week – will have to see if that is enough to stress the Wallabies a bit more.

            They did look a bit one-dimensional last night but I think both sides will be better next week.

            Looking forward to the remainder of the series.

            • June 10th 2018 @ 12:02pm
              Fionn said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:02pm | ! Report

              Jeznez, what is forgotten is that Ireland were leading 9-8 when Sexton and Furlong and co came on. It was actually the last quarter of the match that the Wallabies dominated, which I thought were interesting.

              I can see next week going one of two ways:

              A) Schmidt starts all of his Lions and Ireland are clinical and comfortably beat the Wallabies;

              B) the Wallabies’ performance improves as first game rust is thrown off and even with the Lions starting the Wallabies manage to tough out a close win.

              What do you think?

              Also, I agree we should start Latu and/or Simmons, but I would still have Alaalatao over Robertson, I think. That scrum that we dominated them on their feed, was it Tupou or Robertson, or both, who were dominant there? It looks to me like Tupou destroyed them, but I’m not scrum guru.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 12:31pm
                Angus Kennedy said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:31pm | ! Report

                It was Tapou, see my post above. Robertson did very well, but was actually struggling a little in the scrum, as he often does.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 1:22pm
                Reverse Wheel said | June 10th 2018 @ 1:22pm | ! Report

                I don’t agree. As an old tight head I’ll always maintain that no scrum is dominant unless the th is dominant, and tupou definitely was. But don’t shortchange Robertson’s contribution, he had his man on skates there.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 1:50pm
                Angus Kennedy said | June 10th 2018 @ 1:50pm | ! Report

                Not shortchanging Robertson’s contribution at all. But if you have one tyre with a bulge, you don’t leave it on just because it got you there on this trip.

              • Roar Guru

                June 10th 2018 @ 10:35pm
                jeznez said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:35pm | ! Report

                I’m a big fan of Tupou’s. I believe he will be the starting TH before the end of season if he keeps scrumming the way he is. Brings a smile to my dial.

                And Gus, I’m far from a Robertson fan, think he gets out-powered way too often and that he was better when he was a small TH than he is as a LH BUT whether his shoulders were low he still went forward in that scrum. Hats off to him. AA might have gone forward at an even greater rate of knots but his work rate has been low lately. I think TR did enough to get another test based on that performance.

                I’d prefer a fit and firing 120kg man over a fit and firing 107kg man but you have to award performance and AA hasn’t put out anything for the Brumbies this year that makes him a lay down misere to take the bench LH spot compared to what TR racked up on the weekend.

            • Roar Guru

              June 10th 2018 @ 12:17pm
              PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:17pm | ! Report

              I for one am very glad I was wrong thinking Ireland would win 3-0.

              Mind you that was before the wallabies team was announced and predicated on the Wallabies doing the same old.

              Once the team was announced I saw they showed some opposition analysis and probably defending in place both of which made a big difference.

          • June 10th 2018 @ 12:31pm
            Al said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:31pm | ! Report

            Yes you do need to watch the 6N to have an informed opinion on the Irish team. Last night was their B Team and they nearly won.

            • Roar Guru

              June 10th 2018 @ 12:41pm
              PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:41pm | ! Report

              it wasn’t a B team at all.

              Also they went worse when their preferred 10 Sexton came on.

          • June 11th 2018 @ 11:45am
            MitchO said | June 11th 2018 @ 11:45am | ! Report

            That is a bit harsh SP. The game was still pretty close and most were predicting a 2 to 1 series. The irish forwards looked good and some of their back very dangerous. Some very good backline defence at times.

            Beale had a big game and him defending in the line makes a huge difference to the Wallabies.

            Someone on the Roar suggested pre-game that the Irish don’t really pressure the 13 channel. If that is correct that may explain partly why Kerevi wasn’t exposed in defence. Note that Nick B last year pointed out that Kerevi’s defence wasn’t as bad as it looked.

            It was a worse Wallaby team than this one that nearly beat the ABs last year 2 to 1. That comment is not to invite comments saying “nearly nearly nearly… is bulldust”. The point is that the Wallabies are not far off beating the best side which means they are not far off being the second best side.

            The Irish may well win a game or two this series but the Wallabies look okay. Not as flash if KB goes down but it probably will not be a disaster if Kerevi has to take over at 12.

            Last, I think DHP had a good game. Looked like he did his job to me and did not look as slow as I thought he would.

        • June 10th 2018 @ 11:15am
          Pavid Docock said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:15am | ! Report

          Jacob Stockdale looks like an absolute gun! He’s a big unit and he has pace, skill and looks solid in defence.

        • June 10th 2018 @ 6:10pm
          Cliff Bishkek said | June 10th 2018 @ 6:10pm | ! Report

          Mzilikazi you may be right but quite frankly, it says a lot about the WR (IRB or whatever they call it) World Ranking System. If they are No. 2 in the World, and I say they will come back strong in Game 2, but they are not No. 2 standard when you consider that the Wallabies were not No. 2 standard after the RWC.

          Currently in the World it is the ABs (and I am an Aussie and daylight 2nd, 3rd and 4th. All other teams including the Wallabies are currently also rans when a comparison is made to the ABs.

          • June 10th 2018 @ 9:38pm
            Mzilikazi said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:38pm | ! Report

            “Currently in the World it is the ABs (and I am an Aussie and daylight 2nd, 3rd and 4th.” Fair post and comment, Cliff.

            What I see though is the daylight getting a bit less bright, as it were, with Ireland having a very powerful pack, and reserves. But the AB’s are well ahead still as a complete rugby playing team…..it is now up to Schmidt to use the talent that he has to lift Ireland to perform to full ptential.

          • June 11th 2018 @ 11:52am
            scubasteve said | June 11th 2018 @ 11:52am | ! Report

            we will see

        • June 10th 2018 @ 9:47pm
          double agent said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:47pm | ! Report

          I have read that the Irish media was very confident of an Irish victory.

          • Roar Guru

            June 10th 2018 @ 10:22pm
            Derm McCrum said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:22pm | ! Report

            I read and listened to Irish and Australian media that were not confident of an Irish victory or an Australian victory. The bookies had the game on a +1 margin.

            Most were saying that a 2-1 victory either way was the most likely outcome.

        • June 11th 2018 @ 4:18am
          Ridzenieks said | June 11th 2018 @ 4:18am | ! Report

          There is a crucial NH/SH dynamic.
          I was at Twickenham for the Ireland match, and immediately afterwards Emailed Sydney friends that Ireland are uninspired, slow, and repetitive. The Australian players are in a more dynamic playing environment – losing to NZ Super teams notwithstanding. Somebody like Connor Murray would get a shock in Super, getting a second less of reaction time at the breakdown.
          The old “team in development” excuse is a constant fallback for coaches trying to keep their jobs. No proud team in its country’s colours should ever want to be let off the hook that way.
          Great work tight five, Oz. Genia, great. Supporter of Beale for years. Reckon you lads are over tough on Foley.
          Defence like Saturday’s will challenge NZ.

      • Roar Guru

        June 10th 2018 @ 9:29am
        Derm McCrum said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:29am | ! Report

        If you’ve never seem them play, then you’re not really in a position to make a judgement on them in one game.

        What hole are you living in that you’ve never seen Ireland play rugby? Yet you seem to have watched Scotland, Wales and England sufficiently to make a comparison.

        You’re a spoofer – writing the same schtick.

        • June 10th 2018 @ 6:17pm
          Cliff Bishkek said | June 10th 2018 @ 6:17pm | ! Report

          And you are a Leprechaun with a small head and no ability to give a comment without a barbed abusive ending.

          There was no need for that comment. Small thoughts from a small mind and a lack of ability to comment and present an argument!!

          • June 10th 2018 @ 9:50pm
            double agent said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:50pm | ! Report

            His head looks pretty big in that photo. Certainly qualifies as Melon status.

            • Roar Guru

              June 10th 2018 @ 10:18pm
              Derm McCrum said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:18pm | ! Report

              I thought it was more grapefruit than melon. Ah well, you can’t have everything.

              • Roar Guru

                June 10th 2018 @ 10:45pm
                jeznez said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:45pm | ! Report

                Poth, Melon was Owen Finegan’s nickname, hopefully intended as a compliment – and if not, take it as one anyway!

                Much better than Finegan’s other nickname – Pest!

                (although I did love him for earning that nickname the hard way on the pitch!)

      • June 10th 2018 @ 10:06am
        wag said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:06am | ! Report

        BUT has Cheika got a Plan B??

      • June 10th 2018 @ 11:02am
        Worlds Biggest said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:02am | ! Report

        SP, you might want to watch a bit more Irish Rugby including Provincial Level over the last couple of years. They’re a quality team that are very hard to beat. The Wallas had to work there socks off last night. This also wasn’t the full strength Irish team that started. Furlong, Leavy, Sexton and Ringrose will all likey start next week and make a big difference.

        The Wallas were very good and will need to be even better next week. Underestimate the Irish at your peril mate.

        • June 10th 2018 @ 11:39pm
          bazza200 said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:39pm | ! Report

          So what your saying is there better players came on fresh in the second half and lost them the game

      • June 10th 2018 @ 12:24pm
        Redafan1 said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:24pm | ! Report

        Agree. The Irish attack was inept. Barely looked like scoring a try. They were good defensively and their breakdown turnovers were excellent. That’s about it.

        • June 10th 2018 @ 3:15pm
          somer said | June 10th 2018 @ 3:15pm | ! Report

          Apart from the two times they crossed the chalk and the tries were somewhat harshly disallowed. Both could have been given under a different TMO.

          • June 10th 2018 @ 3:47pm
            Laurence King said | June 10th 2018 @ 3:47pm | ! Report

            The one where the player was held up, you’d have to go through a lot of different TMO’s to find one that gave that as a try. The Irish were buggered from getting smashed in the tackled and their better players didn’t change that when they came on. This young Wallaby side has the potential to go up several gears, and there are so many strike players in the team and the squad. Ireland are a great side and deservedly No. 2 in the world but this wallaby side are on the way up.

        • June 11th 2018 @ 11:50am
          MitchO said | June 11th 2018 @ 11:50am | ! Report

          Red which two times the Irish crossed the line did you think were not close.

          Stander was over but only just held up by unusually good defence. At the end of the game the TMO said definite knock on first but there wasn’t much between that and a score. those knock ons go unnoticed often enough.

          of course Folau’s no try could have been let stand on a different day. All in all a pretty close game.

      • Roar Pro

        June 10th 2018 @ 12:40pm
        Danny said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:40pm | ! Report

        I usually reserve big calls like “talk about overhyped” until I’ve watched a team a little more than “a few snippets”. Especially when the team in question is ranked second in the world by WR. Or perhaps the ranking system is overhyped?

        What I’m intrigued by is how one can know that Scotland, Wales and “even” England are more skillful ball in hand without watching those teams? Maybe one did watch them? But then surely one would have watched more than just a few snippets of Ireland? So many questions.

        Or maybe one is trolling?

        • Roar Guru

          June 10th 2018 @ 9:03pm
          Derm McCrum said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:03pm | ! Report

          One thinks you might be right, Danny. 😏

      • Roar Rookie

        June 10th 2018 @ 1:24pm
        Kirky said | June 10th 2018 @ 1:24pm | ! Report

        Worry not, I wouldn’t be blowing too much as the Paddys’ will come back and I’m sure it’ll be a different game next weekend ~ they are better than that!

        I am no great fan of theirs, but they didn’t get to be 2nd in the rankings by playing crap like that!

        As far as the Coach goes, Joe Schmidt is on the short list for the next All Blacks coaching possie, so he does know what it’s all about, ~ and everyone who has a bit of knowledge of the game would know, the Coach can only Coach them on the subtleties of the game, but when they run out on the pitch it’s entirely up to them, and it was very obvious they strayed from the game plan!

        The Aussies haven’t done anything to write home about for a long time now, and all they did yesterday was beat a team who played nothing less than rubbish! ~ good on them for that, but expect a comeback next game!

        • June 10th 2018 @ 5:46pm
          Craig said | June 10th 2018 @ 5:46pm | ! Report

          Well that is just a crock. Line out and some kicking aside, the Wallabies played extremely well last night. Against all predictions, their breakdown work, maul and scrum was top shelf. Ireland will certainly respond but its pretty churlish to dismiss that Wallaby performance.

        • June 10th 2018 @ 6:20pm
          Cliff Bishkek said | June 10th 2018 @ 6:20pm | ! Report

          Kirky you are a Rookie but quite fankly with the comment – you are a “babe in arms with a couple of horns”!!

        • June 10th 2018 @ 9:53pm
          double agent said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:53pm | ! Report

          Honestly Kirky. Why make a comment like that? Maybe you’ve had a few too many in which case I sympathise.

      • Roar Rookie

        June 10th 2018 @ 4:55pm
        Kirky said | June 10th 2018 @ 4:55pm | ! Report

        What have the Wallabies been up to lately? they don’t have anywhere near the record the Irish have,

        I’d bet on Schmidt putting his full International side on the Park these next two games and I would bet it’ll be a different ball game!

        You’re spot on in mentioning the Wallabies and English talking themselves up, they are without doubt the two Countries best at it, ~ the Wallabies win a game, and they’re immediate World Beaters until next week when they lose and you hear sweet fanny from either of them.

        Also if there was a two man panel of Selector Coaches up for any International Coaching job comprising Cheika and Joe Schmidt, the Kiwi boy Schmidt would get that job every time, ~ Cheika is not a good Coach and never has been, what’s he got on his record in comparison to smoking Joe Schmidt!

        Ireland to win the next two games by heaps!

        • June 10th 2018 @ 7:01pm
          jameswm said | June 10th 2018 @ 7:01pm | ! Report

          Because they have a Kiwi coach.

        • Roar Pro

          June 10th 2018 @ 11:26pm
          Gishan De Soyza said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:26pm | ! Report

          Kirky, remind me again how many RWC’s Ireland have won or finals they have reached?

      • June 10th 2018 @ 9:47pm
        Cathal said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:47pm | ! Report

        Well there’s the problem, using snippets and watching a team experimenting aren’t the best way to judge a team…

      • June 11th 2018 @ 9:57am
        scubasteve said | June 11th 2018 @ 9:57am | ! Report

        you haven’t seen them before last night yet you say they are overhyped? Perhaps go and watch some games before typing on your keyboard. One loss (small loss) does not define a team and their overall ability. They are only the second team to beat NZ in recent times. They also as you point out have won the 6N. Keep in mind too they had a few players either on the bench or injured.

    • June 10th 2018 @ 8:30am
      mzilikazi said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:30am | ! Report

      Interesting read, Oliver. Thanks.

      I have not seen the game yet, as I flew into Tokyo just before KO. A great win for the Wallabies, and a lot of hope now going forward. Great to hear that Pocock and Genia played so well, They are two key players, especially Genia, with our lack of a really top backup scrumhalf. Also personally very pleased for Genia, as he has had some horrible years with injury setbacks.

      “Follow the leader – but which one?” A really interesting segment of your piece, Oliver. Many on this site have commented on the captaincy problems during Hooper’s reign.

      He is a world class player, but not, IMO, a good captain. I would like to see Pocock become captain, and Genia vice captain. I always thought Pocock was developing into an outstanding leader, before injury felled him. And Genia was a fairly sound leader during his tenure as captain.

      I think Hooper would then be free just to play his natural game, and be better for it. He is not a motivator of those around him…Pocock and Genia certainly both are.

      “potentially be a great new strength for the Wallabies – a brain trust that makes good decisions.” Indeed what any team needs, and your examplehere is the classic case of a good decision….take the points easily on offer, up the pressure on Ireland, and increase the confidence of the Wallabies, now with the lead in the game.

      • June 10th 2018 @ 11:10am
        Pavid Docock said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:10am | ! Report

        Pocock would make the ideal captain. He has excellent rapport with the refs, and makes calm decisions. Those around him listen to him too and he commands respect. He leads by example – with absolute commitment, great intensity and accuracy.

        • June 11th 2018 @ 1:23am
          QED said | June 11th 2018 @ 1:23am | ! Report

          +1

        • June 11th 2018 @ 12:01pm
          scubasteve said | June 11th 2018 @ 12:01pm | ! Report

          does Pocock have the respect of the players off the field? Can he still play at his best and be captain? that is just as big a question. Hooper is doing fine. He is still performing with the added role.

    • June 10th 2018 @ 8:35am
      Rod said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:35am | ! Report

      Very good performance from both sides. Did anyone else feel that the referees really tried there best to stuff the game. The amount of stoppages , calling back a try after play had gone on for what seemed a fair amount of time . I get the call was technically correct , but if they couldn’t spot that in the run of play why can they just go back it. Why can’t players call time out, and tell the ref, look I realised two phases a go if I had passed the ball left instead of right we would have scored . It makes the NRL system look good. Which for a lot of NRL fans would seem unbelievable

      • June 10th 2018 @ 9:02am
        moa said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:02am | ! Report

        @ Rod
        Seriously mate.The refs are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
        They let play carry on just like they would under advantage.
        If they stopped play–they would get people on here claiming “a try would definitely have been scored”

        The Refs have an incredibly complex set of laws to deal with; unlike the NRL which you mentioned. I just wish they would specialise more and that the ARs would do the job they are out there for i.e policing the offsides etc.

        • June 10th 2018 @ 9:13am
          Noodles said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:13am | ! Report

          The refs have very little room to choose. The laws and guidance from above dictate.
          It’s worth looking at the replay of the Coleman foul play. Clearly the player he tackled was a decoy. It worked. Coleman had every right to expect that he hit the ball carrier. The tackle itself was uncontroversial. Is that an outcome we want to punish as foul play?

          • Roar Rookie

            June 10th 2018 @ 9:47am
            Paulo said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:47am | ! Report

            I’m not sure your allowed to tackle on suspicion and then hold him down. Interesting in the commentary, Kearns went off like he always does, but Kafer supported the refs decision. The litmus test is to reverse the color of the jerseys and try and think how you would feel. If that was Folau or Beale hit off the ball and then held down while play continued, how would you feel?

            In regards to League, it is easy to stop the game and reset at a play the ball, rugby with multiple phases and dynamic situations is a lot harder to just stop and restart for a ‘check check’.

            • June 10th 2018 @ 9:54am
              jameswm said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:54am | ! Report

              I think Kafe’s wrong. It wasn’t foul play, but it was probably a penalty. However, it was about 5 phases back, so too far. It’s like going back for an off side 5 phases ago – too far back.

              Try should have stood.

              • Roar Guru

                June 10th 2018 @ 10:06am
                PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:06am | ! Report

                That was what I was wondering.

                If so by letter of the law it was wrong, he could not go back more than 2 phases.

                Are you sure it was more than 2 phases?

                This is where Hooper’s captaincy was poor he should have asked was it more than 2 phases ago and if so you can’t go back that far.

                It did look like a decoy runner NOT a support runner was tackled, if you are going to penalise that then so many penalties should be given since decoy runners are tackled all the time, that is their purpose to put defence in 2 minds and take out a defender.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 11:41am
                Noodles said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:41am | ! Report

                Exactly. Surely the decoy is supposed to work – it did- and Coleman’s tackle was itself fine. I’m struggling to understand the foul.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 10:14am
                jameswm said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:14am | ! Report

                Hooper doesn’t know the rules well enough.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 6:21pm
                Roger said | June 10th 2018 @ 6:21pm | ! Report

                Hooper’s the best captain ever isn’t he?

              • Roar Rookie

                June 10th 2018 @ 10:26am
                Paul D said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:26am | ! Report

                Didn’t matter what Hooper said to the ref. He waved Hooper off saying it was foul play. With foul play there is no 2 phase limit.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 10:27am
                Highlander said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:27am | ! Report

                Don’t think there is a phase limit for foul play.

              • Roar Rookie

                June 10th 2018 @ 10:32am
                Paulo said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:32am | ! Report

                You all beat me to it. No limit on foul play. 2 phases applies to checking tries for offsides, knock ons, etc. Foul play is foul play. Ref explained that to Hooper when he questioned it.

              • Roar Rookie

                June 10th 2018 @ 5:37pm
                Dwards said | June 10th 2018 @ 5:37pm | ! Report

                I think the limit is the previous set piece.

              • Roar Guru

                June 10th 2018 @ 11:00am
                PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:00am | ! Report

                That clearly should be changed to just dangerous play and not all foul play.

                obstruction is foul play as an example, or holding back a player etc.

                Even then for foul play (as opposed to dangerous play) it should effect play.

                I can go back on any try and go back 20-30 phases (the whole game) and find decoy runners tackled without the ball. Every try should be called back if the TMO is going to be that pedantic.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 11:17am
                Paul said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:17am | ! Report

                It was 53 seconds back and it was four phases back. In my opinion, the referees/touch-judges/TMO/rule-makers have completely lost the plot. The player who was tackled without the ball was back on his feet, in the defensive line. 53 seconds had passed and there had been four phases and a change of possession. The tackle had no effect on the subsequent play, and the try should have been allowed. Will the All Blacks be subjected to the same scrutiny? If they are, they will no longer be the world champions.

              • Roar Rookie

                June 10th 2018 @ 12:06pm
                Paul D said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:06pm | ! Report

                Foul play TMO checks always wait till the next break in play. Just so happened the next break in play was a try. I don’t agree that it was necessarily foul play, just a misread on a genuine running option who was a decoy. It was in the spirit of the game and just a mistake. Not a cheap shot.

                But thats how it went down, so we move on. And ot was great to see the team moved on from it and came away with the chocolates.

              • Roar Guru

                June 10th 2018 @ 12:22pm
                Kane said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:22pm | ! Report

                I agree Paul, the only reason the All Blacks are world champs is because they’re allowed to tackle decoy runners, nothing else.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 1:07pm
                jameswm said | June 10th 2018 @ 1:07pm | ! Report

                Agree no phase limit on foul lay, but it wasn’t foul play.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 1:28pm
                Reverse Wheel said | June 10th 2018 @ 1:28pm | ! Report

                Claiming it was foul play was just an excuse from a ref who was too gutless to tell the tmo to get back in his box. Hooper rightly questioned the total lack of impact it had on anything but the ref wasn’t interested. Trying to tie this into a narrative of hooper’s poor captaincy doesn’t work here.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 1:31pm
                Dennis Hopper Jr said | June 10th 2018 @ 1:31pm | ! Report

                Tackling a player without the ball comes under the category of foul play. 14. A player must not tackle an opponent who is not in possession of the ball.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 3:58pm
                Daws said | June 10th 2018 @ 3:58pm | ! Report

                But he didn’t intentionally tackle the player without the ball – it seems pretty clear that he tackled him because he thought he had the ball.

                Foul Play rule 9.7(a) – A player must not intentionally infringe any law of the game.

                There was no intention to tackle a player without the ball.

              • June 11th 2018 @ 12:30am
                Peter B said | June 11th 2018 @ 12:30am | ! Report

                Absolutely agree, 5 phases back…crazy….. if the TMO sees a penalty he should immediately say so and the onfield ref can put the hand out for advantage. no raking over play more than 2 phases unless an advantage has been indicated

            • June 10th 2018 @ 12:35pm
              Angus Kennedy said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:35pm | ! Report

              It was the Irish player holding the Wallaby down. That is very clear on the replay. They do it all the time to prevent defenders getting back into the line.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 3:54pm
                Daws said | June 10th 2018 @ 3:54pm | ! Report

                Yep, he had hold of Colemans shirt at the left shoulder.

            • June 10th 2018 @ 7:48pm
              Morsie said | June 10th 2018 @ 7:48pm | ! Report

              The player under Coleman was holding onto him so he couldn’t get off to make it look like Coleman was holding him down, old trick. Dreadful decision. If you’re going to run dummy runners expect them to get tackled. Just saw the above posts, so clearly held down.

              • June 11th 2018 @ 4:29pm
                Jacko said | June 11th 2018 @ 4:29pm | ! Report

                How did Coleman end up on top of a player that never had the ball?…But its all the other guys fault for holding on to his jersey after he is tackled without the ball, wrestled to the ground without the ball and landed on by the tackler, when he didnt have the ball

          • Roar Rookie

            June 10th 2018 @ 5:00pm
            Kirky said | June 10th 2018 @ 5:00pm | ! Report

            He tackled that guy without the ball, he deserved all he got, so it was too controversial as the Ref’ said, that guy has bad form at the best of times and he knows it!

            • June 10th 2018 @ 6:26pm
              Cliff Bishkek said | June 10th 2018 @ 6:26pm | ! Report

              Decoy runners can be tackled as it is a move to confuse the sdefence and in this instance Coleman moved into the tackle and hit him. Jesus, when we ran decoy on schoo lrugby we expected to be hit.

              Referees need to see the game as it is. The TMO should have said that it was not foul paly as it was a result of decoy tunning. Try stands.

            • June 10th 2018 @ 7:54pm
              Morsie said | June 10th 2018 @ 7:54pm | ! Report

              Yeah, All Blacks never tackle anyone without the ball, they just elbow them in the throat.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 10:05pm
                double agent said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:05pm | ! Report

                LOL!!

    • June 10th 2018 @ 8:50am
      Adsa said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:50am | ! Report

      Great win by the Wallabies. Most importantly we can get better for next weeks game. Caleb Timu was quiet, hopefully it was debutant nerves and he can go up a gear next week to complement Pooper. The kicking game by Oz was ordinary.

      • Roar Guru

        June 10th 2018 @ 12:04pm
        jeznez said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:04pm | ! Report

        Agree – quiet effort from Timu, although at least it was just quiet and not error strewn. Definitely worth playing him again to see if he can up his performance.

        • June 10th 2018 @ 12:46pm
          Dave_S said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:46pm | ! Report

          Agree he was quiet, but I’m not surprised, he’s barely settled into SR, it’s his first test and he’s in a BR with 2 legends. All he needs to do is give a head down, b_m up performance, makes his tackles etc, not get over excited in front of the sticks … he did all that. I reckon he will have gotren a solid ‘tick’ from the coach.

          • June 10th 2018 @ 4:16pm
            Cinque said | June 10th 2018 @ 4:16pm | ! Report

            It’s the question of impact vs errors. Take Coleman, who had big impact made three costly errors, and compare him with the quieter achievers. Sio, Timu, DHP, etc. Will be interesting to see the player ratings.

            • Roar Guru

              June 10th 2018 @ 10:49pm
              jeznez said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:49pm | ! Report

              I’ll take Coleman’s errors and hope he can play closer to the line while maintaining impact. Was happy with DHP.

              Would like a little more out of Sio and Timu – 100% backing from me for those guys, just want them to knock a couple more blokes backwards.

      • June 10th 2018 @ 10:12pm
        double agent said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:12pm | ! Report

        The kicking game by the Wallabies may have lacked accuracy but it definitely fulfilled it’s mission. It took the Irish by surprise.

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