What does the footballing world see when they look at the Socceroos?

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    This is about the time our nation gets a little obsessed with the Socceroos heading into a World Cup.

    The excitement floods social media platforms and even the commercial news networks start to run short grabs of the national team in training or battling it out in friendlies.

    Heck, even the non-football journos are starting to throw their ‘expert’ opinions our way.

    As Socceroo fans we analyse, hypothesise and agriculturally cheerlead, musing on our group and our chances of survival; all the while knowing it will be tough to advance. So it should be, but when we whack on those rose coloured glasses it is easy to find reasons why our boys will do us proud in Russia.

    We could cite our improved back four that seemed to be functioning better under Bert van Marwijk until the slip up on Sunday morning. Faith could be placed in our midfield stars who appear to have brought their club form from Europe and eternal optimists will hope for another Timmy moment.

    Throw in young Daniel Arzani, a player of whom the world knows little, and the Socceroos are in as good a shape as they could possibly be.

    Daniel Arzani

    Daniel Arzani (Photo by Robert Cianflone/Getty Images)

    There are multiple reasons why Australia can do well in Group C. But what does Group C think of us?

    I have been trying to get a hold of Bert van Marwijk ever since he took over; all to no avail.

    There is a question I want to ask him. Despite not defeating the Socceroos in their direct clashes during the qualifiers, he did preside over the successful Saudi Arabian qualifying campaign.

    With experience on the other side of the fence it would be fascinating to know what his blunt analysis of our squad might be. Not one full of platitudes but an honest and potentially crude assessment of the areas where an opposition perceives Socceroo weaknesses and potential advantage.

    I’m guessing it might go a little like this.

    Mathew Ryan
    Excellent keeper who does have a tendency to play out at all costs thanks to the lingering legacy of the previous manager. Pressing high and blocking his exit channels might just produce an error or a poor decision.

    Aziz Behich and Josh Risdon
    Tough little buggers. They will run all day but what they have in heart they lack in height and skill in the air. Both can be exposed at the back post with searching angled balls. Ensuring they are forced to consistently track back and maintain accountability can expose defensive frailties.

    Trent Sainsbury and Mark Milligan
    Good players yet agility is their weakness. Milligan particularly struggles to turn and chase when faced with players of superior speed. The higher they sit, the more potential exists for a killer ball that catches the defence square. Both prone to the odd howler when pressurised.

    Aaron Mooy, Tom Rogic, Mile Jedinak and Massimo Luongo
    All solid world-class players, with the three younger men improving all the time. Mooy doesn’t deliver at international level as often as the Australian fans would like and can become slow and stagnate with the ball. Rogic and Luongo are the X factors and the men most likely yet can be retarded considerably if closely marked.

    Both are dangerous when running at opposition teams with players in support and Rogic is a particular threat with his ability to hit the long ball as well.

    Beware of Jedinak when he does take to the pitch. Forget about perceptions of his lack of speed and agility, the bearded one inspires the Socceroos and offers a calming stability in defensive midfield.

    Mile Jedinak

    Australia’s Mile Jedinak (AAP Image/David Moir)

    Matthew Leckie and Robbie Kruse
    Don’t relax against these men. While they don’t hit the scoreboard often, they are toilers and will run tirelessly. Without a world class marksman in the centre, the Socceroos will always work for their goals and these two men often provide the final pass.

    Diligent defence is required to negate their influence. If controlled, both can drift out of games and in turn, become frustrated.

    Tim Cahill, Tomi Juric, Jamie Maclaren and Andrew Nabbout
    Do not fall for the ageing appearance of a certain number four. He is more than capable of producing magic from the set piece and never underestimate his influence on this team. Do not talk to him, get him angry and engage him in any way; he thrives on it.

    Maclaren is a running danger in behind yet still not polished enough on the ball to be a consistent threat. His speed is his weapon, in a similar vein to the inexperienced Andrew Nabbout. In traditional Australian style both currently lack the dexterity in foot skill required for consistent success at international level.

    Juric is a clever player yet still not a consistent goal scorer in the national setup. He is the least dangerous of the four.

    Far more threatening is young superstar Daniel Arzani. Watch him. He will run threateningly at defences time and time again and his improvement has been exponential over the last year.

    Tim Cahill

    Tim Cahill (Photo by Matt King/Getty Images)

    Summary
    All in all, the Socceroos are a working-class team and will grind away in search of a goal, rather than blasting through a defence. They are prone to indecision and hesitation at the back and can be exposed with speed.

    They are a tough nut to crack and always turn up for the fight, even if they might not be able to match the international heavyweights when it comes to class and skill.

    Blocking passing channels and slowing their ball movement are the keys to stopping the Australians.

    Stuart Thomas
    Stuart Thomas

    Stuart Thomas is a sports writer and educator who made the jump from Roar Guru to Expert in 2017. An ex-trainee professional golfer, his sporting passions are broad with particular interests in football, AFL and rugby league. His love of sport is only matched by his passion for gardening and self-sustainability. Follow him on Twitter @stuartthomas72.

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    • June 12th 2018 @ 5:09am
      Fadida said | June 12th 2018 @ 5:09am | ! Report

      The midfield are “solid world class”?
      Your criteria for world class is very, very low Stuart. I’d go for lower EPL standard.

      I’m not sure you need “diligent defence” to stop R Kruse, though I’d be happy to be proven wrong. Usually you wait for him to fall over or misplace a cross. If he wasn’t offside.

      I’d argue Sainsbury is very agile.

      I expect our opponents will have us marked as a definite 3 points. Their scouts would report a limited but hardworking side, with a never say die mentality. I’m sure BVM would have had a similar report from his Saudi days.

      • Columnist

        June 12th 2018 @ 7:48am
        Stuart Thomas said | June 12th 2018 @ 7:48am | ! Report

        Players able to leave our shores and compete internationally at a high level. Never understood the narrow definition of world class being a description of only the best of the best. Just my view.

        • June 12th 2018 @ 8:20am
          Fadida said | June 12th 2018 @ 8:20am | ! Report

          Perhaps they should be called international class then Stu?

          At best Mooy would be considered in the third tier of players;

          Top -Messi, Ronaldo and Simon

          2nd -Salah, Bale, Suarez etc

          Actually he wouldn’t even be 3rd.

          If Jedinak, a championship level player, is world class then how do we possibly describe Ronaldo?

          • Columnist

            June 12th 2018 @ 11:34am
            Stuart Thomas said | June 12th 2018 @ 11:34am | ! Report

            Exactly. International is the world. A bit semantic really. In my mind and from an Australian perspective, I have always seen our boys that have ventured to international leagues as players capable of competing on the world stage and not just in a local competition. It was always the big test. So many succeeded yet many have failed as well.

        • June 12th 2018 @ 9:26am
          Caltex & SBS support Australian Football said | June 12th 2018 @ 9:26am | ! Report

          Technically you’re right Stuart. If any player who performs in a FIFA World Cup Finals tournament, for any competition points, should be considered World Class. An Azani or Messi, even though reputations are poles apart.

          • June 12th 2018 @ 9:29am
            Fadida said | June 12th 2018 @ 9:29am | ! Report

            So how do we distinguish between Leo Bertos and Ronaldo, as both have played in a world cup?

            • June 12th 2018 @ 9:45am
              MQ said | June 12th 2018 @ 9:45am | ! Report

              Ronaldo vs Leo Bertos? Can’t split them.

            • June 12th 2018 @ 9:54am
              Caltex & SBS support Australian Football said | June 12th 2018 @ 9:54am | ! Report

              Both have played for their country on the biggest stage of all. However, Google is your friend—make up your own mind who is the better of the two players. 😉

          • Columnist

            June 12th 2018 @ 11:35am
            Stuart Thomas said | June 12th 2018 @ 11:35am | ! Report

            I agree Caltex. Ability to compete on the world stage equals world class to me yet I appreciate the phrase has become something a little different over the years. Like the dreaded ‘worldie’.

            • June 13th 2018 @ 2:50am
              Fadida said | June 13th 2018 @ 2:50am | ! Report

              Just read a WC article on the brilliant football365 site, where they describe Gary Lineker, scorer of almost 50 goals for England, WC golden boot, star at Barca, as “international class”.

              Not as good as Jedinak or Mooy though, both of whom are “world class” 🙂

              • June 13th 2018 @ 1:08pm
                Caltex & SBS support Australian Football said | June 13th 2018 @ 1:08pm | ! Report

                Gary Lineker is world class, his participation in a world cup finals tournament proves that.
                “football365 site” have no official recognition with FIFA and so, it is only an opinion of a poor football site.

              • June 13th 2018 @ 2:12pm
                Fadida said | June 13th 2018 @ 2:12pm | ! Report

                You and Stuart hold onto the idea that Jedinak is world class. The rest of the world won’t, and neither will FIFA whom you oddly bring into the equation. Do they have a “world class” rating system???

              • June 13th 2018 @ 6:25pm
                Caltex & SBS support Australian Football said | June 13th 2018 @ 6:25pm | ! Report

                @ Fad – that’s precisely the point; do you know of an official world class rating system? I would like to know what it is, if it’s not playing for your country in the biggest Football World Cup on the planet. Is there an official world class FIFA points system I don’t know about other than playing in a world cup finals tournament for your country?

        • June 12th 2018 @ 5:47pm
          NUFCMVFC said | June 12th 2018 @ 5:47pm | ! Report

          Would say they are “Professional Class” and not World class. World Class are those competitive at UCL level,

      • June 12th 2018 @ 8:10am
        MQ said | June 12th 2018 @ 8:10am | ! Report

        I’m with Fadida on this one, when I saw Mooy, Rogic, Jedi and Luongo listed as world-class, I thought, hmmm, that’s a very broad view of what is meant by world class.

        Lower Premier League/Championship/SPL is a bit short of the standard seen in the latter stages of the Champions League, which is where the cream usually rises to the top. We’d normally reserve the descriptor World Class for those players.

        Another poster mentioned on another thread that one reason why Rogic is a constant disappointment in the NT is that he earns his living playing for the biggest club in a very weak league where they are constantly beating up on other teams who are around A-League standard. When he gets to the NT, all of a sudden it’s a massive jump, even against fairly average teams.

        Mooy has done brilliantly to help his little club avoid relegation from the Premier League, it deserves paudits, but that’s still well short of what we would describe as world class.

        • June 12th 2018 @ 1:38pm
          Kurt said | June 12th 2018 @ 1:38pm | ! Report

          and i think youd rate pogba as world class, but mooy ripped pogba a new one earlier this year.

    • June 12th 2018 @ 7:21am
      pete4 said | June 12th 2018 @ 7:21am | ! Report

      Huge opening encounter if we can nullify Pogba/Kante in the middle of the park the footballing world will think a lot more of us than they did the week before

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        June 12th 2018 @ 1:40pm
        JamesH said | June 12th 2018 @ 1:40pm | ! Report

        We’d want to start a bit better than we have in the last two editions…

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      June 12th 2018 @ 7:23am
      Griffo said | June 12th 2018 @ 7:23am | ! Report

      In the video series recently released Arnold indicated when at the Mariners a young Marty Ryan insisted in training with the defensive line for build up.

      Ange can’t take all the credit, it goes back even further than Arnold I think 😉

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        June 12th 2018 @ 1:22pm
        Cousin Claudio said | June 12th 2018 @ 1:22pm | ! Report

        Please explain your first sentence, don’t understand it.
        Who is Marty Ryan, do you mean Marty Rhone?

        • Columnist

          June 12th 2018 @ 8:49pm
          Stuart Thomas said | June 12th 2018 @ 8:49pm | ! Report

          Maty Rhone was a star of Jade Hurley proportions. Claudio and I used to dance at the local RSL to them both.

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            June 12th 2018 @ 11:38pm
            Cousin Claudio said | June 12th 2018 @ 11:38pm | ! Report

            In my flares under the disco ball.
            Ah what memories.

      • June 12th 2018 @ 9:48pm
        Paul said | June 12th 2018 @ 9:48pm | ! Report

        It goes back to Jim Fraser who taught him the skills of a goalkeeper at his academy at Rooty Hill in Sydney’s West.
        Angry Arnie was just gave him a chance after he had done his apprenticeship at Sydney NPL clubs.

    • June 12th 2018 @ 7:38am
      AGO74 said | June 12th 2018 @ 7:38am | ! Report

      Generally speaking there’s not too much wrong with this review although I think “World class” may be a stretch in describing our midfield.

      More important than the players though is the set up/formation and having watched Bert in his tenure we all know what he thought of the previous formation and its effectiveness/vulnerabilities.

      It is still going to be a massive battle to get results and to get out of our group but it seems more than fair to sy that the players (still error prone – but less often) are more comfortable in this formation.

      • June 12th 2018 @ 7:54am
        Fadida said | June 12th 2018 @ 7:54am | ! Report

        We definitely look more comfortable. I’d guess that all of them grew up with a version of 442, 451 or 4411. All of those formations naturally provide cover and support for all defensive and midfield positions. Compare this to the enormous spaces left behind the wing backs in Ange’s back 3.

    • June 12th 2018 @ 8:24am
      Buddy said | June 12th 2018 @ 8:24am | ! Report

      In the uk amongst people that I ask,the Socceroos still have a reputation as being a strong physical side (some say over physical or dirty) lacking finesse with the odd one or two players whose games have changed due to where they play. I often get met with the line that the team will never be taken seriously whilst being called Socceroos! I find it difficult to mount an argument against the collective noun for our national side. Since all national teams seem to need a nickname maybe we could just be the aussieroos. Not important in my life but maybe in the credibility stakes there is a need?

      • June 12th 2018 @ 8:32am
        MQ said | June 12th 2018 @ 8:32am | ! Report

        If you’re relying on your nickname for credibility…..

        But what you say about the thoughts of the world’s football fans is true enough. I was just listening to ABC radio this morning and they were interviewing Russians who were watching the socceroos train, and the one who could speak English described the socceroos as being physically strong but lacking in technique.

        I’m not saying that’s accurate, I’d describe it more as a cliched view, but I would say that most of the world’s football fans would view the socceroos in the identical manner.

        • June 12th 2018 @ 8:45am
          Buddy said | June 12th 2018 @ 8:45am | ! Report

          MQ – yes I think you nailed it. I don’t think it is an apt description but it has been built up over decades I suppose. As for credibility stakes I think it is just that so called “football fans” are somewhat suspicious of those that use the word soccer irrespective of cultural or other reasons. They kind of ask if we are really serious or want to be taken seriously. The USA failing to qualify doesn’t help either… a bit of a twist I know but the game there has developed and they have qualified for successive tournaments and missing out this time sets them back somewhat.

          • June 12th 2018 @ 10:59am
            Kris said | June 12th 2018 @ 10:59am | ! Report

            Did you get all that while watching Soccer AM?

            • June 12th 2018 @ 1:44pm
              Buddy said | June 12th 2018 @ 1:44pm | ! Report

              Kris – if you are asking me that question,sad to report I don’t know what Soccer am is so if material is similar I have to ask you to belive in coincidence.

              • June 13th 2018 @ 11:53am
                Kris said | June 13th 2018 @ 11:53am | ! Report

                Soccer AM is the weekly show on Sky Sports in the UK that has been running since 1995. I was cheekily suggesting your argument that the word Soccer engenders suspicion amongst football followers is bovine droppings.

        • June 12th 2018 @ 9:06am
          lunchboxexpert said | June 12th 2018 @ 9:06am | ! Report

          If Ange could have loaded his team with players with the finesse and skills that many other countries seem to be able to load their team with then the name would matter for nought.

          What Australian players lack in skill and finesse that other teams have they somewhat make up for in team work and selfless commitment of the individual to the team cause. In contrast many other countries have teams with players with more talent and finesse but most of these players are always looking for a way to raise themselves in the pecking order in their teams, an approach that often sees the team undone.

          The world cup has many messages about what is going on in differnt countries if you are prepared to open your eyes and think a little.

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          June 12th 2018 @ 9:06am
          The Phantom Commissioner said | June 12th 2018 @ 9:06am | ! Report

          A Russian talking about lacking technique is akin to Camilla Parker Bowles commenting on someones looks.

          • June 12th 2018 @ 9:10am
            MQ said | June 12th 2018 @ 9:10am | ! Report

            Absolutely, but what Buddy was talking about was perception and reputation.

        • June 12th 2018 @ 11:03am
          Kris said | June 12th 2018 @ 11:03am | ! Report

          And Brazil never hit a long ball or cross, and Argentina are packed with dirty defenders, Mexicans couldn’t keep their feet if they were nailed to the grass, and Italians would prefer a nil-all to the disgrace of scoring, and England will lose in a penalty shoot-out,and the Dutch implode under infighting, and the Scandanavians will hoof long-balls at 7 foot tall target men. All cliches. Nothing to see here.

          • June 12th 2018 @ 11:21am
            MQ said | June 12th 2018 @ 11:21am | ! Report

            …and the French will lack togetherness and implode under the weight of expectation.

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              June 12th 2018 @ 2:08pm
              Matt H said | June 12th 2018 @ 2:08pm | ! Report

              And the Peruvians will build amazing stone pyramids and then disappear into the mountains. And the Dutch will build windmills made out of tulips while under the influence of the evil weed and then hide from the sea behind a big wall.

          • June 12th 2018 @ 1:59pm
            Buddy said | June 12th 2018 @ 1:59pm | ! Report

            Not sure where we want to take this? Stuart’s headline concerns perceptions and opinions of Socceroos overseas. All I did was respond with what I hear from friends and relatives on one small island across the other side of the world. They are not my beliefs, nor are they my opinions but They are the generalisations and cliches that we are lumbered with. I confess to having a good laugh when Gareth Southgate took over the England job and all I kept hearing was “we’d better not be involved in anymore penalty shoot outs” – as if that is what defines the team. However, whenever you watch a game and listen to the commentary, I guarantee that a penalty shootout involving England will prompt the mention of various world cups and euros, mention Stuart Pearce and Southgate and Beckham by name all in the context of expecting them to lose yet another one, especially if it is Germany.
            Being called Socceroos is not helpful in a world full of “football” fans, creating a view tht the country is not really serious about the game as we call it something other than football. Well it wasn’t that long ago that our governing body recognized the need and became FFA. I don’t share any of the beliefs anymore than I believe that the A League is a backwater for 3rd string players and ex stars looking for an easy time and the skill level is low…….but I’m faced with that kind of narrative on a fairly regular basis.
            Playing DA instead of Kruse and showing something other than a physical presence in Russia in front of a global audience will help to change perception…and it is just that, but we live in a world where judgement is made on first sight and a general perception – real or imagined.

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          June 12th 2018 @ 12:53pm
          Griffo said | June 12th 2018 @ 12:53pm | ! Report

          It didn’t help that Blatter implied we looked like rugby players…or maybe he was just perpetuating the same myth?

          In the end it will be up to us to end the myth and change the viewpoint of the world about our football.

          On the other hand Matt Ryan’s Danish agent says we don’t know when we’re beaten is one of our strengths.

          I’d take that into a tournament…

      • June 12th 2018 @ 8:55am
        Fadida said | June 12th 2018 @ 8:55am | ! Report

        I find the English very ignorant of football outside their Isles. They look down on countries like the US and Australia, and regions like Asia for no other reason than they aren’t English and they don’t know the players.

        If you want to watch physical, low quality football tune into the lower half of the EPL, the championship, or watch any England major tournaments for at least 20 years.

        • June 12th 2018 @ 9:33am
          Lionheart said | June 12th 2018 @ 9:33am | ! Report

          and if you want an insight into who’s putting money into the EPL, look at the advertising around the grounds. Much of it is aimed at the Asia market.

        • June 12th 2018 @ 6:34pm
          Freddie said | June 12th 2018 @ 6:34pm | ! Report

          Hahaha!! Pot, kettle. Aussies rely on stereotypes for every nation in the world. Especially the English.

      • June 12th 2018 @ 9:52am
        mattq said | June 12th 2018 @ 9:52am | ! Report

        every country has a nickname. les blues, salacio, die manschafft etc. (ignore spelling). It’s not like they’re listed as the socceroos on the teamsheet or the telecast text ffs.

      • June 12th 2018 @ 11:22am
        AGO74 said | June 12th 2018 @ 11:22am | ! Report

        Buddy – I reckon your UK colleagues descriptions of Australian player attributes would be the same response when non-UK people describe English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh teams.

        • June 12th 2018 @ 2:09pm
          Buddy said | June 12th 2018 @ 2:09pm | ! Report

          I reckon that is on the money although there are some obvious exceptions but I’d say that’s true here as well.
          The style of football in the Championship and lower league in England is still very physical and demanding and no place for lightweight wingers or strikers. There are better ways to spend 90 minutes than being chopped down trying to make it into the EPL.

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        June 12th 2018 @ 1:27pm
        Cousin Claudio said | June 12th 2018 @ 1:27pm | ! Report

        FOOTBALLROOS!

        In most football nations, the term “soccer” is not considered “world class”.

        In countries that use the term “soccer” its because they have stolen the term “football” for one of their own competing sports, because it is a world class term and has global appeal.

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          June 12th 2018 @ 2:10pm
          Matt H said | June 12th 2018 @ 2:10pm | ! Report

          Stolen is a strong word when some of them had competitions that grew at the same time.

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          June 12th 2018 @ 2:37pm
          Cousin Claudio said | June 12th 2018 @ 2:37pm | ! Report

          So American football, Australian football, Canadian football and Gaelic football all look the same and are similar to the real football?

          Victorian Rules started off as the Melbourne Rules of Rugby.
          Tom Wills, the so called father of AFL, went to The Rugby School in England and brought back a version of Rugby, not football.

          American football was the same, based on Rugby and is why they have H shaped posts.
          Victorian Rules had H shaped posts till the 1870s.

          Gaelic football is a hybrid of Rugby and football and is probably the closest, but it too has H shaped posts and is not the same as real football, which every country in the world plays.

          • June 12th 2018 @ 5:41pm
            AR said | June 12th 2018 @ 5:41pm | ! Report

            For all his frothy indignation and crowing about ‘who came first’, Cousin Claudio isn’t much of a history buff.

            The “Melbourne Rules” (from which AFL derives) were penned in 1859.

            The “Sheffield Rules” (from which the “Football Association Rules” were based years later) we’re drafted in 1867.

            Oops.

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              June 12th 2018 @ 11:49pm
              Cousin Claudio said | June 12th 2018 @ 11:49pm | ! Report

              Not as bad as your “frothy indignation” Pippinu, but then again you seem to be an expert on everything, especially the art of deception.

              I never mentioned anything about who was first, if that’s what you are trying to say.

              The point I was making above was that all countries that call football “soccer” have their own version of Rugby that they try and call “Football” because its a more accepted term.

              We all know that indigenous Australians invented football 40,000 years ago by kicking stuffed possums around the MCG. No arguments from me about that one Pip.

          • June 12th 2018 @ 5:48pm
            Melange said | June 12th 2018 @ 5:48pm | ! Report

            SOCCEROOS

            Any historical reference I’ve found to why some call it soccer and why some call it football has nothing at all to do with theft of the word from other competitions.

            My understanding is soccer is abbreviated from Englands AsSOCiAtion Football, while football traditionally dilineated between sports played on horseback and sports played on foot.

            One of the crazier points that is sometime argued on these forums IMO. I grew up calling it soccer and I love the game. At the same time I understand the importance of the change to Football Federation Australia, a line in the sand against the other codes, and I thought it was a genious move.

            In every Del Piero interview I saw when he played here, if he referred to the game he referred to it as soccer. Was he world class? Not a real football player? C’mon CC, lighten up, I’m surprised you got into this debate.

            • June 12th 2018 @ 10:19pm
              AR said | June 12th 2018 @ 10:19pm | ! Report

              Exactly.

              People new to soccer, like Claudio, fee they have to prove their credentials by shrieking “witch!” everytime someone utters the word “soccer”.

              Personally, I’m proud of the Socceroos and the history they have.

              I guess Alessandro del Piero, every time he mentioned “soccer”, was just another one of those anti-football haters, and probably just a secret AFL fanboy. Cahill the same when he did it too.

          • June 12th 2018 @ 9:18pm
            Phil M said | June 12th 2018 @ 9:18pm | ! Report

            At that point in time Football was still a generic term. Therefore you had “Rugby Football” and “Association Football”. The clue is in the name of the still going governing body – RFU, Rugby Football Union.

            The terms were shortened to Rugger for “Rugby” Football and Soccer for “Association” Football; which most people have forgotten.

            The round-ball game, due to it’s world wide spread has taken the generic name “Football” as a specific name for it’s game but this does not mean other sports which arose around the same time and still use the term don’t have a right to.

            btw. not trolling here; I myself use the term Football over Soccer.

    • June 12th 2018 @ 8:30am
      lunchboxexpert said | June 12th 2018 @ 8:30am | ! Report

      When people look at the Australian Socceroos I think they see a team with limited home grown talent. Thats why van Marwijk has been looking overseas for talent. If you think about this there is a pretty clear message in that, that no amount of “improving the development programs” is going to fix,

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