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Eddie deserved the boos - but he's left foundations to build on as Australian rugby picks itself up from rock bottom
I’ve posted this before Ian, but I’ll post it again to show it’s not all bad at RA. There’s work to be done but there’s a good base to start from. The 2023 values of Rugby National Brands has just been released as follows …
Top 10 most valuable national rugby brands 2023 in US$ millions
1 New Zealand 282m
2 England 264m
3 France 159m
4 Ireland 150m
5 Wales 132m
6 South Africa 117m
7 Australia 101m
8 Scotland 54m
9 Japan 23m
10 Italy 22m
Some good talented leaders in right now are absolutely essential.
RA set to sign World Rugby's HP director - and he could help land Joe Schmidt as Wallabies coach
Such are the challenges of life, Tony.
Eddie gets another win over coaching rival days after beating him for Japan job, Rennie's super start
RO, I don’t recall kiwis complaining about 1999 and 2003 apart from the fact the ABs lost. Had their chances but well beaten, if you ask me. In 1995 in the week of the final, half the team went down with food poisoning, the famous Susie and so yes that was a topic of discussion. 2007 was the Wayne Barnes missed forward pass. But in reality, the 2007 team was a top team and the ABs coaching team outsmarted themselves with game plans, team selections and other tournament tactics falling short. The ABs won in 2011 and 2015 and got cleaned out in 2019, team selection in the semi not helping.
But you missed the point RO. I was talking about nearly all the other teams that lost in the run up to the final complained about the match officials. Even some teams that won complained. It was nonstop. It’s a major problem and needs to be addressed by WR.
Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons
Being someone who was around long before the term social media was invented, I had to Google search to find the meaning of G. There were two alternatives provided:
(1) Shortened term for the word “gangster”. First originated in the prison system then made its way out to the streets.
(2) to express agreement, to show appreciation, or to indicate laughter
Anyone able to help further?
Roosters offer 'something I couldn't knock back': Marquee Mark reveals why he's joining the Bondi bunch
There’s no doubt you’re happy with the way rugby is going JN and good for you, but there are many who are not.
If you go back to the last RWC the losing team and their supporters of most of the last 20 or so games complained about the existing laws, the officiating, the bunker system, the TMO and refereeing decisions and non-decisions. Many of those complaints appeared to have merit and impacted on the results of some of the games. Many of the existing laws are magnets for player injury.
The CEO of NZ Rugby Mark Robinson, said the following just last week … ”We’re all in a space where we want the game to grow. Anyone in leadership of rugby has a fundamental duty to want it to grow. If that’s our starting point, what has to happen to make that happen at the professional level? That’s greater tempo, greater spectacles, less interventions, and help simplify the game where we can.”
That’s in effect the essence of Terence’s article. There’s no doubt changes will be coming. Let’s hope for the better.
Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons
Nice article Terence. You’re singing a song I’ve been singing for decades.
It deserves a decent hearing, because the current game needs a lot of help. Nationalism goes a long way in the game retaining its support, but the game could collapse at the grassroots level if substantial changes are not made.
Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons
Perhaps more importantly in his media interview NZ Rugby CEO made the following two statements:
“We always consider the importance of Australia strategically to us, meaning we had to work really hard at that relationship, and that will continue to be the case, and was the case over the last few years. It’s no secret there were some challenges amongst that, but we’re really looking forward here and see an opportunity … we’ve always had friends in Australian rugby, and we’ll continue to do so going forward.”
Meaning, Australia is important to us.
”We’re all in a space where we want the game to grow. Anyone in leadership of rugby has a fundamental duty to want it to grow. If that’s our starting point, what has to happen to make that happen at the professional level? That’s greater tempo, greater spectacles, less interventions, and help simplify the game where we can.”
Meaning, we know the game has to improve and needs to be more “fan-centric”
'It wasn't discussed': All Blacks to keep selection ban on overseas based players, even as more head abroad
“The abuse he has suffered since the Rugby World Cup final, along with other officials involved in that game, is totally unacceptable … we will do everything possible to help guard against the abuse aimed at match officials and players and would urge everyone in our game to consider the role they can play in upholding rugby values.”
Yes, it is unacceptable, but unfortunately this type of conduct seems to be part of modern-day life just now. But it would be a huge help if the British controlled WR could understand that it is the underlying problem, by creating laws and roles within the game that are contrary to rugby’s values and what the majority of the rugby public want. WR addressing these issues would be a huge step forward.
Rugby News: RWC final TMO quits over 'torrent of abuse', Wallabies Grand Slam tour touted, Fiji lock facing jail
“I have to admit, there isn’t much worse than being picked and dropped, picked and dropped”
Hoy, I promise you there is worse.
But limiting it to being picked and dropped from a rugby team, yes, I’m sure it could be frustrating and can’t be good for confidence. But in the case of Noah, while the talent seemed to be there, he was given plenty of chances which he didn’t seem to take, and he got dropped. It seemed inexperience etc. got in the way. His game didn’t flow.
It was interesting that he expressed his anger at seeing the other boys also missing out on the WBs for the WRC. He immediately knew what we all immediately knew. Perhaps he was lucky he wasn’t picked.
This trip overseas could be the making of him.
'Pissed off': Why Eddie snubbed Noah and the five-month stint in France that's changed his outlook
Just to clarify, is the article saying that tackle height of community rugby in France, New Zealand and South Africa was reduced some time ago after research by World Rugby.
But in the case of England and Australia this was not done, but is now, and in the case of Australia will be effective February 2024.
If this is the case can someone explain why Australia did not follow what other countries were doing. I wonder where countries like Wales, Scotland, Ireland and others sit with this. Surely WR should require all countries to get in line.
As for the comments from Drew Mitchell and Berrick Barnes, at best they weren’t helpful. The game needs a huge amount of fixing and this is just one area. Get on with it.
'Can of worms': Rugby Australia introduce radical tackle law reform to protect players
But somewhere in there Rob there needs to be a balance. Say for example someone was threatening all sorts of things, then carried it out. What then? You mean they’ve got rights of anonymity?
Rugby News: Cane urges All Blacks rethink on OS stars, rugby's shocking death threat problem exposed
“World Rugby reported more than 2,000 direct threats against match officials in recent weeks”
You’ve got to wonder, with the technology available these days, why these people can’t be tracked down.
Rugby News: Cane urges All Blacks rethink on OS stars, rugby's shocking death threat problem exposed
On the surface Michael Cheika seems to fit in well with the Argentina environment. Good luck to him.
The WBs need a different personality. They’re out there but I’m concerned that by delaying an appointment, the WBs could miss out on the best options now available.
Personally, I hope there’s discussions going on behind the scenes.
Cheika set for contract extension as another Wallabies head coaching candidate slips by
“I am joining World Rugby as the manager high performance”
Congratulations to Simon Raiwalui and good luck, as he seems to be a fine rugby man.
My curiosity is, however, what does a high-performance unit do? It’s not that they have a team to coach. It would be interesting to know the specific terms of reference of the unit and the role.
Rugby News: Raiwalui to step away from coaching as new role confirmed, Razor won't rush call on All Blacks captain
Well, Hamish told us all he accepted responsibility. Will that include making good any shortfall?
Rugby News: RA hunting missing million after contract blunder, Suaalii worth 10x more than his deal, McKellar's big win
“I just wanted to see whether it would heal on its own and it did, which it hasn’t”
That’s what known as having it both ways.
'Sad to see him go': Young gun Gordon says Wallabies won't be scarred from World Cup flop
“The ref, who is well known in Australia for penalizing Bernard Foley late in the Melbourne Bledisloe Cup match in 2022”
From memory that wasn’t what happened. Foley was wasting time while taking a penalty near his own line and, after a warning that produced nothing, got called for it. The ref cancelled the penalty and ruled a scrum with put-in to the ABs who scored a match winning try.
'That was a mistake': Top ref's blunt verdict on World Cup bunker call
What interests me is that it becomes possible to assess the cost to RA of the performances of McLennan and Jones in 2023.
'Shame on the plodders': Hamish blasts RA 'boneheads' as Harvey Norman deal ends - but founder denies link to axing
JN, you can google search Rugby National Brands 2023 and get the detail from Brand Finance. It’s a bit complicated but in establishing the value they say the SA value has been impacted mainly by the rand but also the surge of Ireland up 2 places. But in terms of brand strength (as distinct from value) SA sits in 4th position.
'Shame on the plodders': Hamish blasts RA 'boneheads' as Harvey Norman deal ends - but founder denies link to axing
Just for interest JN the 2023 values of Rugby National Brands has just been released …
Top 10 most valuable national rugby brands 2023 in US$ millions
1 New Zealand 282m
2 England 264m
3 France 159m
4 Ireland 150m
5 Wales 132m
6 South Africa 117m
7 Australia 101m
8 Scotland 54m
9 Japan 23m
10 Italy 22m
'Shame on the plodders': Hamish blasts RA 'boneheads' as Harvey Norman deal ends - but founder denies link to axing
It wasn’t so long ago, maybe about 6 months, when McLennan announced he was considering running for Vice-Chairman of World Rugby.
He was certainly a character and had plenty of ambition.
'Shame on the plodders': Hamish blasts RA 'boneheads' as Harvey Norman deal ends - but founder denies link to axing
It’s a bit much pointing the finger at Geoff.
A huge majority of the comments from Roarers were calling for McLennan’s head as his position had become untenable.
ANALYSIS: McLennan's fatal blind spot, and why his exit leaves Australian rugby in a better place and a worse one
The term “Interim Chairman” interests me.
Does that mean filling in temporarily until confirmed at an AGM or some other meeting? Or filling in while an outside search for a replacement takes place?
ANALYSIS: McLennan's fatal blind spot, and why his exit leaves Australian rugby in a better place and a worse one
“remember that this is the game they play in heaven. Which is where we will be once we have won the Tom Richards Cup, Webb Ellis Cup and the women’s Rugby World Cup, right?”
Don’t forget the Bledisloe, Peter 😁
Eddie deserved the boos - but he's left foundations to build on as Australian rugby picks itself up from rock bottom