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Like other major sports in this country spruce moose.
Which Sydney suburban rugby league grounds should be redeveloped?
Tim Buck 3
The same old tune from the Dragons hymn sheet, cut down, so Sharks could flourish.
It’s like the man who fell out of the balloon ,he’s not in it, it’s over.Life’s moved on.
You have a huge growing area like Illawarra ,plus the old St George area.You have a joint venture and should have the backing of those supporters, crowds suggest otherwise.
The Sharks own their home ground ,the Dragons despite having a once prosperous Leagues club do not.
The Sharks already have a Govt grant of $8m toward a centre of excellence ,and they have $18m on the bank from the $40m developer payout and after debts and Leagues club redevelopment taken into account..Hardly the signs of a struggling club.
They are going nowhere, and V’Landys has all NRL suburban clubs as being essential.
If anything the Dragons are out of their depth at Jubilee.An area with a growing migrant population ,and aging one.
Which Sydney suburban rugby league grounds should be redeveloped?
Agree.The tribalism factor is what the game is all about.Renaming doesn’t work.
It was hard enough for joint ventures to work .
Which Sydney suburban rugby league grounds should be redeveloped?
The Sharks own their own ground and have done so for decades.So at least one club had foresight.
You can also argue the Broncos/Titans/Cowboys/Knights “own” their grounds, with larger capacities.Based on your centralising “ownership” criteria.
Centralising in Sydney due to the topography /transport doesn’t work.
Which Sydney suburban rugby league grounds should be redeveloped?
One more time Clipper which has a lot to do with it.38 years of either leg ups, or getting into the semis, and really not having a series of bad years.
Compared to the Storm who have been around for 24 years, with yes solid years ,but a PR disaster called salary cap cheating that did little to help their situation.In a state where they have few juniors.
Who really cares(except you like a long playing record), whether they overtake an AFL team in Melbourne.The Storm when they play have been an excellent boost for matches on Fox, where the real money currently is.Their crowds have increased markedly since Olympic Park, and I remember when they first came in quite a few AFL fans stated, they’d be lucky to get 5k at their games.
You need to refer today to a realist from your code also in the Sydney Morning Herald.
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/swans-chairman-fearful-of-v-landys-nrl-20200630-p557nd.html
Sort of makes the threads author’s comment look rather lame.
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
Reality check for the author and the usual anti rl zealots.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/swans-chairman-fearful-of-v-landys-nrl-20200630-p557nd.html
Story also appeared in the Sydney Morning Herald.
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
The game whilst it may boggle the imagination is not going to happen.The ABs and Kangaroos would benefit financially, leaving them open to injuries which would not please the clubs.
This suggestion is brought up by Lonergan ,like the flu every 2nd or 3rd winter and goes back to the drawing boards.
The point that was argued by some,why would rugby league want to assist the ABs (and yes both codes have taken a financial hit),whilst the Kangaroo’s poor cousins the Kiwi rugby league is battling financially.
To me it makes more sense for the ABs v Wallabies to secure the funds and for the Kangaroos to play the Tongans or Kiwis to generate funds.
The AB backs would slot into league type backlines, it’s in the forwards where the real difference lies.But IMO it’s all hypothetical.I say no Billy Moore.
Can the All Blacks play rugby league?
I’m past responding to the usual AFL monomaniacs and indeed the author of this dreamland thread bagging rugby league, except to refer to the story below in both the Sydney Morning Herald and the Age.This might help to bring things into perspective and wipe the foaming lather of the 8 post brigade of the usual zealots who get their rocks off here.This is just one reality check for the merry band of GoGWS,Clipper,Rowdy,Gyfox, the thread’s author whose name already escapes me and the band of merry followers.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/swans-chairman-fearful-of-v-landys-nrl-20200630-p557nd.html
There are positives and negatives, the measuring contest is just plain childish.Ciao.
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
Check their crowds pre and post SL war, and their semi appearances and G/Fs in 38 years.
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
I reckon I could make a fortune on counselling Trump, on the realities of life and not fantasies .
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
Go GWS I’ll rationalise ratings at years end,And i’ll include SOO TV ratings which are on FTA and for which 9 Pays a princely sum. Not dust in the air, but terra firma.
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
Well if it’s such a waste of time GoGWS, why respond? Especially when you ignore FTA and SOO which all fall under the FTA ratings banner and Tv deals.
And those SOO FTA ratings are usually huge over 3 games.
Or ignoring no NRL teams in WA or SA for effect.
Kayo has apparently more NRL subscribers than AFL.
Not a case of don’t trust anyone.it’s a simple case of waiting till the season is over ,and then pulling everything apart, that’s why the AFL author of this thread left himself wide open to ridicule.
“Great discussion” not really just another poor effort at d*ck measuring.That’s dust in the air more like it.
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
You should be able to follow who you want agreed mephisto, but the author of this thread created the atmosphere ,tension, whatever with some less than genuine comments, that has created this circus we have found ourselves in.
Posters includng moi are not going to sit back, and accept what was originally portrayed as gospel.And the have the usual d*ck measuring argument hurled at them.
A similar argument in another code’s site would get similar passionate responses.
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
The code has made it a success mephisto. Accept it .
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
Well if it’s such a waste of time and if you want to ignore SOO which is a major ratings winner and cash injector for rugby league, why bother.
And ignore no NRL teams in WA or SA, then continue to be the great white knight for the AFL.Ignore the dominance on Fox, go ahead.
You work on a couple of weeks, the season goes for at least 17 plus including SOO.SOO is FTA apparently dust in your view, you can be well ahead now on FTA,but a lot less so after SOO,that is rationalising.
Rationalising is also getting around $1bn for 5 years from Fox 2023-2027, they consider NRL of greater value than you obviously do.
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
Await a few shocker years, and see who are the rusted ons. A dream run so far.
They have been here 38 years.
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
LOL,Clipper
Two words counter what you have stated regarding Digital .
Underlying interest.
Which you conveniently ignored as you have a habit of doing .
Never stated FTA were increasing anywhere.I have stated time after time,there are no NRL teams in WA or SA, so apples with apples comparisons is not real.
Who knows the effect of another Brisbane team in the future.
Foxtel holding strong and dominating fro the NRL .
Kayo I understand have bigger NRL numbers than AFL.
Foxtel have a 5 year deal with the NRL about $1bn 2023-2027.Paint whatever negative picture you wish, but that is sealed.
Yours a waste of a post.
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
Seriously Clipper.if you are going to try and bag me, get the facts in place.
1) I never mentioned league in Sth Africa as being anything but small,by using much less than ru.
2) I referred Japies as being from SA and telling Rowdy not Sth Australia.
We know you hate rugby league with a passion ,but implying I somehow made out rl was anything other than small in Sth Africa, when the discussion was about Perth, shows you are losing it.
You have no idea what interest there is or isn’t in rugby league in Sth Africa, so stop making assumptions.All I know there are teams in unis there.Info is hard to come by.
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
Where I live is irrelevant, to accessing info on the web mephito,
unless of course you are still using morse code and live in Iron Bark or Windy Hill.
That comment of yours is being plain disingenuous and undercuts whatever argument you tried.
I stated Storm fans continually complain about lack of coverage they get.Not friends but continual sporting site comments.Did I state all media outlets?
You can have 300 stations in a city, it’s the major outlets that reach the majority.It is the major outlets to which I refer.Age and Herald Sun,Telegraph and SMH,Project.
And I have been to Melbourne, view from the rear vision mirror magnificent.
One point for effort.
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
Bit late for that now. Although counselling seems to have many openings.
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
And when you have a 6pm every Friday night schedule ,expect far fewer viewers on Fox.Or attendees for that matter.
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
Not sure who you are directing that point.
All I’ll add no NRL teams in WA or SA doesn’t help, and yes you can blame prior administrations and a SL war.
I suggest the SOO shows exactly the code is happy to be seen outside the two Northern states.
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
You missed my point AJ73.Simply that, dropping ratings on FTA is somewhat compensated by the increase in ratings in Foxtel and who knows but I understand Kayo has large numbers of NRL subscribers.
And we now know the subscription base of the NRL:digital with 1.6m subscribers and the largest social media footprint( 5 million people) of any sport in this country, no matter how hard you try to paint the expected negative, doesn’t paint the full picture when it comes to interest.
I would much rather be in Foxtel’s sport’s position with the backing of their huge media set up, than the desperate financial positions of ch7 and ch9, which are well known and both deeply leveraged..Because if 7 and Fox go you think the AFL will be laughing.Anyone can throw up hypotheticals.It achieves zilch.
When you also throw in SOO ,internationals on FTA, sorry melad it does mean it does rate well inclusive of Fox.
You see the NRL are not that stupid not to realise the future of television is changing rapidly.They have already increased their non broadcast income thanks to Abdo, and will continue to work on that side.They also need to improve infrastructure for their fans .
All this without teams in WA or SA.They are doing all right.
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
“No crowds go” Chase the Roos. A slight exaggeration, regardless of the numbers ever thought it may have more than a little to do, with the lack of facilities.As both Parramatta and the Cowboys have shown ,give people better facilities they attend in decent numbers.
Which Sydney suburban rugby league grounds should be redeveloped?