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That’s just not true though Nick. You could watch hours upon hours of rugby without seeing a similar incident. In 30 years of watching I don’t ever recall seeing one where a knockdown that went backwards was given as a knock on. I can’t see any mention of it by Nigel either, he just talks about the Valentini / Thomas cards

Why it's not all doom and gloom for the Wallabies

Yup, it’s quite clear.

Doesn’t have to be a link or an embedded video, there are plenty of games on youtube, stan etc. , just let me know of an example and I’ll find it

Why it's not all doom and gloom for the Wallabies

Just one would do… You know I’m starting to think that if the rules say a slap back isn’t a knock on, and nobody can find a precedent saying otherwise, that maybe a few people owe Mike Adamson an apology

Why it's not all doom and gloom for the Wallabies

This is silly. The Faf example is nothing like the Tompkins one, even if Faf did hit the ball it was clearly forwards. At the weekend the ref told Slipper that if he slaps it back it’s OK, which is exactly what the rules say. If you’re claiming the ref is wrong because of long established precedent and protocol then you should be able to find at least one example…

Why it's not all doom and gloom for the Wallabies

But Faf grabbed his arm, not the ball

Why it's not all doom and gloom for the Wallabies

Can you give a single example from the past of a ref giving a knock on for a ball that went down / back, rather than forwards? I don’t remember ever seeing one. The ref thought it went back (and the camera from the opposite touchline appears to show that it did), so if you’re saying he should ignore the rules as they’re written to give a penalty on the basis of past protocol there should be plenty of examples.

Why it's not all doom and gloom for the Wallabies

Great article, apart from the repeating the same nonsense about the knockdown. There is no such think as “knockdown” in the rules of rugby. Beale knocked it forwards. Tompkins knocked it backwards. Tompkins wasn’t “facing forwards”, he was side on, as you can clearly see in the clip above, and he tried to knock it back, as you can see from the shape of his hand. In the universal lingua franca of rugby anywhere on Earth, the ball has to go forward for it to be a knock on.

Why it's not all doom and gloom for the Wallabies

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