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a penalty of $100k every time he caps the crowd? i like it.
A-League may hit rock bottom thanks to the Coast
i think it might be a case of brisbane (gabbe for the olympics) all over again. the rectangular codes resting on their laurels, assuming it will all fall into place for them. the afl aggressively lobbying for their desired outcome, and putting their money where their mouth was.
but i agree, it was definitely a poor decision. it could have been an amazing dedicated rectangular stadium. now, just for the sake of 3-4 AFL games a year that could easily be played elsewhere, the whole ground is compromised. i’d hope that a world cup bid may involve finally turning it into a rectangle. not sure how that would play out, given the afl’s stake in the ownership. even more compensation for demetriou et al?
and if stadium australia was a legit rectangle, that’d boost sydney’s claims to host the final. but that’s another argument for another thread.
A short history of AFL and the stadiums it uses
there was never any suggestion though that they would be footing the entire bill. these things are always funded by multiple parties. i’d say that the threat to not be involved in the world cup was the stupidest move ever by the act, if i thought for a second that there was any chance they’d follow through with it.
ps, meant to put this on the previous post. looks awesome.
http://www.canberrastadium.com.au/about/documents/090527A1Board7CS4MPCANBERRASTAD1.pdf
A short history of AFL and the stadiums it uses
that’s not quite how the equation looks for canberra.
if the whole redevelopment was to be priced at $200m, how much of that bill would the act shoulder? surely some, but a majority would be borne by the federal government, with undoubtedly some input by the FFA, NRL and maybe even the AFL. they’ll end up with a brilliant new stadium of 26,500 capacity (upgradeable, temporarily, to 40-odd thousand) and an improved oval pitch for AFL and cricket. they’ll host a number of world cup games (the development is conditional on a successful world cup bid), they’ll have an excellent ground for A-League, NRL and super-whatever teams, and will be well placed for future internationals. they also stand to gain non-footballing infrastructure – mooted sydney-canberra-melbourne fast train, for instance, plus improved airport facilities.
or… they could maintain the status quo, miss out on all the infrastructure improvements, and play host to maybe 8 rounds of both AFL and NRL.
it’s a purely hypothetical situation though. it’s simply empty threats by the sports minister, barr or whatever his name is, to posture for the next round of a-league licences. if we get the world cup (which is still, in my opinion, a much greater likelihood than you think), canberra will certainly feature.
A short history of AFL and the stadiums it uses
pip, i’ll argue with you on one major point – the gabba. yes, brisbane NOW has one of the finest rectangular stadiums in the country in lang park. but the redevelopment that made it what it is commenced in 2001 and wasn’t finished until 2003. cockerill, and many others, are right to suggest that brisbane should have had a rectangular ground redeveloped for the olympics. i have no idea how the afl and cricket australia managed to convince socog and the government to build up the gabba for the olympics – it was a major coup.
i agree with you on many of the inconsistencies in cockerill’s article. but your discussions on the brisbane front demonstrate the very same lack of knowledge about northern stadia history that you condemn those northerners for having regarding melbourne’s grounds.
A short history of AFL and the stadiums it uses
i’m still holding out that fifa will say that swan st should be expanded, and to hell with the cost of taking apart the roof. best outcome, imo.
World Cup would force other codes to take a break
haha no worries mate, just taking the piss! 🙂
yeah the ‘true’ division lies somewhere between albury and wagga. i’d say north of The Rock but that wouldn’t mean much to anyone not from the riverina.
so you’ve driven through albury? if you’d any sense, you’d drive through and keep on driving! fortunately for me, i got out of the town…
yes indeed, one haydn bunton senior hails from albury. triple brownlow medallist with the lions if i recall. north albury’s home ground in the ovens and murray league (one of the strongest country leagues going, ps) is bunton park. hilariously, it’s not named for haydn bunton, famous footballer; rather, for his brother who was a local council member! stupid country folk.
A short history of AFL and the stadiums it uses
Pip,
as an Albury lad, i take offence at that ‘no one North of the Murray’ line.
We Alburnians are proud Victorians in all but postcode, and would appreciate some acknowledgment of our ongoing attempts to remove ourselves from New South Wales and its many failures.
Sincerely.
A short history of AFL and the stadiums it uses
yes, there has been some positive movement recently between the mfc/mcc. thank god.
mfc now offers two tiers of joint mfc/mcc membership (basically a glorified donation to the club, starting from the princely sum of $50pa). this has played a major role in the drastic increase in membership for the club over the past couple of years.
the mfc is also, i believe, once again being considered a division of the mcc (as it originally was in 1858 or whenever it was formed), albeit in a much more autonomous role.
through these and other measures, the jim stynes-led board has surely secured the survival of the mfc for at least the next dozen years or so. god bless him, and here’s hoping for a full recovery.
Football flexes its new found confidence
ante milicic firming as favourite for the assistant role.
Melbourne's new rivalry will revive the A-League
the fury are doing quite well, aren’t they? compare to pre-season where the gold coast would be the team to which all others aspire, both on and off the field, and north queensland were a basket case of washed-up has-beens who were destined to fold within two seasons at most.
how the tables have turned.
Despite the gloom, A-League crowds not plummeting
not to mention the fact that the heart will enter the competition a month or two after the conclusion of the world cup. it may or may not be a coincidence that melbourne’s break-out season, ’06-07, was on the back of a very successful germany campaign by the roos.
i can definitely anticipate a few people getting into ‘this soccer caper’ or some such next june/july, and deciding to give the a-league a chance. odds are the new recruits will go to the new side if there’s nothing specific drawing them to the victory.
Melbourne's new rivalry will revive the A-League
heart now chasing viduka, just to further the knights parallels.
Melbourne Heart must target Leckie
oooh, that’s a fantastic conspiracy! look forward to them meeting south melbourne in the ffa cup then!
Melbourne Heart must target Leckie
could fill the youth marquee role.
name competition part two starts tomorrow (apparently, although looks like it could be deferred). names will be out and voting can begin. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/nametheteam
Melbourne Heart must target Leckie
that loss was a bit of an embarassment…
Gold Coast United are an embarrassment to the A-League
i think the ruling is there needs to be 40,000 seats AFTER fifa have used their quota etc, executives, media and the like. the number ends up looking like 43,000 all up
World Cup would force other codes to take a break
alas, i’m sure my treasured mcc would be of little to no benefit during a world cup. curses.
World Cup would force other codes to take a break
yeah but fifa may prefer to see a whole lot of venues built FOR the world cup, rather than throw the world cup into existing venues. england’s bid, for instance, includes a number of proposed new venues despite the fact that they could easily beat our best possible proposed bid with what they currently have. fifa’s all about the legacy etc.
World Cup would force other codes to take a break
which you could argue as both a positive or a negative. how many new stadiums are they proposing to build, how many football grounds will be upgraded etc?
World Cup would force other codes to take a break
way to debate there, peter. good argument.
World Cup would force other codes to take a break
with kardinia and princes parks, melbourne would still be reasonably serviced. i’m sure the afl could come up with some compensation plan that allows members (of which i am one, for the record) to pay a lower fee for that particular year with the funds coming from the ffa pay-out. but pip, you know as well as i that the football these days is more about the tv viewers and less about the patrons on the day. if the afl was beaming live matches into melbourne from launceston, geelong, canberra, sydney, brisbane, adelaide, perth etc they’ll still have their viewer numbers. the afl will be extremely well compensated for this disruption, don’t you worry. the only potential ‘losers’ from it as far as i can see are the few diehard afl fans who refuse to revel in the world cup excitement. and they’ll be unhappy whether the season’s disrupted for 8 weeks, 4 weeks, 2 weeks or not at all.
World Cup would force other codes to take a break
and sadly appreciated
Verbeek was right to spike McDonald