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It seems just a distant memory now, the hazy days of 2003. A world cup and genuine thoughts that rugby here was going to…
The debate regarding the structure of Super Rugby has been ongoing since the inception of the competition and has only intensified since its expansion…
The recent question time with Bill Pulver left me feeling very depressed about the future of the code in this country. I commend him…
It is hard to believe Super Rugby starts in a couple of weeks when it's still only February and most of us are still…
Rugby union in Australia is in serious trouble and how it got to this stage is a terrible indictment on some of the people…
After my first post last week (a way forward for rugby in Australia), I was surprised how many people agreed with the basic concept,…
Well here we go. This is my first post to The Roar, and it's about something dear to my heart: rugby union. How did…
3) can’t and won’t happen. End of.
Then watch the game decline in popularity further. End of.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
Exactly, the only vision the RA have shown is to source an $80 million dollar credit card, how is that supposed to work out long term.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
The best option moving forward for any franchise in Australia is through a domestic based competition at an economic base the game can sustain.
The dilemma for the RA is privately they want the Rebels gone to keep the other franchises viable/competitive against the NZ teams.
The issue with the Rebels is the competition they are playing in.
Super Rugby is a big f——-g albatross around the game in Australia, it can barely survive in NZ a country where the game if supposedly a religion.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
Just an hour away on one of those new fan dangled Jet Aero planes 😛
'Easy to throw stones': RA chairman hits back at mudslingers' 'hypocrisy' after calls for AGM board cleanout
Hell why not use some of the $80 million they’ve borrowed to fund the current set up.
'Easy to throw stones': RA chairman hits back at mudslingers' 'hypocrisy' after calls for AGM board cleanout
That 10-12 team option could surely be a long term goal, potentially start with 6 to 8,
team numbers should also suit each country NZ say 10 Aus maybe 8, whatever suits each individual market. the game has to stop banging a square peg into a round hole to start with.
'Easy to throw stones': RA chairman hits back at mudslingers' 'hypocrisy' after calls for AGM board cleanout
This is all just moving deckchairs around, as the business structure of the game here is unsustainable.
The problem is as the money becomes scarcer the more short term money options are pursued, as we have seen
Without growth in your biggest market (domestic) the game will just to continue to decline, regardless of how big supposedly the game gets Globally.
'Easy to throw stones': RA chairman hits back at mudslingers' 'hypocrisy' after calls for AGM board cleanout
So Rugby’s health here relies on a Wallaby win ratio & Super rugby title every 10 odd years, and we then wonder why the game is stuffed in Aus.
'Easy to throw stones': RA chairman hits back at mudslingers' 'hypocrisy' after calls for AGM board cleanout
Maybe a bit of both, but IMO though, with the growth of the AFL/NRL business models, rugby needs to figure out whether it can survive long term with limited domestic growth.
Next year chances are we will have only 4 domestic teams competing in a competition with limited appeal in the Aus market.
I can’t see how that is sustainable long term.
Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table
My point is the longer the 2nd tier declines in popularity the harder it will be to maintain a top down Wallaby structure.
Because as the game loses more supporters at a domestic level, the less people you have to support the Wallabies.
So the question is what will give the game more growth 15 plus Tests every year or a better domestic structure.
Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table
I was not aware that having a domestic club based competition included a requirement that no Test rugby was to be played in the future.
Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table
Then to me what you are saying is Australian rugby will slowly die as it is incapable of adjusting to a business model able to meet future demands.
Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table
Sad loss, genuinely enjoyed listening & reading his views
RIP, David Lord: Australian sports journalism icon was 'always thoughtful and thought-provoking'
But what % does the RA spend on grassroots, Test revenue outside of funding the Test Team should be spent on grassroots. The problem you have is the game is not monetizing the 2nd tier it is operating at a loss.
Compared to the NRL/AFL which operate with a vast income and a business model that funds & drives growth at a grassroots level.
You want the 2nd tier to generate an excess, this will never happen under the current structure.
Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table
Winning big Tests will obviously spike revenue for a national union, but at what cost when you compromise the 2nd tier levels ability to source better revenues or grow.
The Wallabies are playing up to 15 Tests a year. when is that enough.
The AFL/NRL are playing Tests every weekend, win or lose there getting that revenue spike.
It is the RA that have chosen a structural set up that is broken.
Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table
Which is pretty much my point after 25 years and how much money spent on Super Rugby, yet we’ve hardly moved the dial on from the days of paying a broadcaster to shove a camera in the stands.
At what stage do you go this just ain’t working.
Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table
Brilliant after 25 years of Super rugby, we have a domestic product that is possibly not worth the cost of producing.
Great return
Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table
(b) yoked into a weird marriage with NZ which is unlikely to yield the type of winning Aussies want.
And until it gets out of that marriage, it can’t figure out what it wants to be.
Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table
Well maybe a backup plan for when the Wallabies don’t win every game and all your top end revenue dries up.
“Test Primacy” has been the strategy for 25 years now at the expense of our own domestic market, it hasn’t worked out well.
Winning a World Cup may not mean much when 95% of the country no longer give a s——t
COMMENT: Australian rugby is a depressing picture - the RA board must be axed and the constitution changed
Agreed
COMMENT: Australian rugby is a depressing picture - the RA board must be axed and the constitution changed
“Get the Wallabies winning again”
Simple, you wonder why they haven’t done that for the last 20 years then.
COMMENT: Australian rugby is a depressing picture - the RA board must be axed and the constitution changed
Agreed, at least it was something instead we have locked ourselves into a model that for 20 years has been on a decline, even NZ are in trouble.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/04/09/analysis-whats-going-on-with-rugby-in-new-zealand/#:~:text=NZ%20Rugby%20is%20currently%20in,a%20post%2DSilver%20Lake%20environment.
As I said have a plan because without domestic growth, the game here doesn’t exist.
COMMENT: Australian rugby is a depressing picture - the RA board must be axed and the constitution changed
“Three Super teams on edge of insolvency and the entire Super model in Australia broken.”
That in a nutshell is the issue with Australian Rugby, until you have a plan to get out of Super rugby then this is all just moving deckchairs.
COMMENT: Australian rugby is a depressing picture - the RA board must be axed and the constitution changed
And Phil Waugh just said lets see what the broadcaster wants, so that red line means jack sh__t
The Wrap: 'Take them to a dark place' - A quiet round grabs eyeballs for all the wrong reasons
The best case scenario is after the RWC in 27 the RA survive with minimal debts. So then what happens as that the end of the sugar hits.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival