The Roar
The Roar

MaxP

Roar Rookie

Joined June 2018

0

Views

0

Published

203

Comments

Published

Comments

MaxP hasn't published any posts yet

Scrums perhaps but not lineouts. A short player can still be lifted. Just not as high

The Wrap: Wallabies are on their way home - can they please take the TMOs with them?

Couldn’t agree more Geoff. But note that this is the price we pay for pedantically refereeing head contact, something of which you seem to advocate. For mine, the simple solution is the TMO only speaks when the referee asks them to check something they think they’ve missed. Otherwise, review pedantically after the match

The Wrap: Wallabies are on their way home - can they please take the TMOs with them?

My point is that we aren’t competitive at the NZ level at the moment. And more loses just compounds the misery

The Wrap: Wallabies scrape a win but the team, and the code, have entered Chinese water torture territory

Spot on. There’s so many other thoughts that counter this idea that we’ve got to stick with Super Rugby and our annual defeat to NZ to get better.
Has a professional internal competition helped Japan improve?
Has 28 years of 6 Nations defeats improved Italian rugby?
Could packed stadia for super rugby AU finals, if a regular thing, help the finances?

We need teams and players who know what winning is like, and fans want to see Australians win. Our collective heads and hearts are dashed, and constantly losing to Kiwis is not the way forward

The Wrap: Wallabies scrape a win but the team, and the code, have entered Chinese water torture territory

“We always talk about our game plan as a framework to get into the game”. FFS!!! These boys have their head filled with absolute garbage. “Framework” is modern speak for a plan without any real commitments or responsibilities. I know. I write them for a living. How about going out and playing rugby. It is not THAT complicated

Exclusive: Eddie set for midfield switch as Wallabies sweat on miracle World Cup finish and CEO pops in

Oh, but for the good old days when winning Australian teams lost faith in their coach. Although he doesn’t strike me as the type to reflect, David Nucifora might wonder what he did that was so bad

'Coaching staff is outstanding': Eddie assistant's bold call on 'eclectic' crew - despite their smash and grab flop

And that’s a key point for all those who want to burn the joint down to start again. Improvements must be made to rugby governance, better coaching pathways etc etc. But these players and coaches need to be accountable for THIS game. They stuffed it and gave up far too early

Gone in six-and-a-half minutes: where the Wallabies RWC campaign got away from them

Anyone who thinks part of the problem is that the top end of town are feathering the nests of their Shute Shield and Hospital Cup mates should actually get down to watch some games. Great atmosphere and nice rugby to watch. But when you notice the club general managers walking around selling raffle tickets for the meat tray, you’ll realise this isn’t some indulgence of the “elite”

This is the brutal reality: There are Aussies desperate to see Wallabies fail, and many want to see the sport's complete demise

Gosh Brett. I often think being a rugby journalist would be a great job, but I’m not so sure. You must have rewatched that sh@t show to write about it in that detail. You poor man! I wouldn’t have the stomach for it

Gone in six-and-a-half minutes: where the Wallabies RWC campaign got away from them

He was really good. Big, powerful and had good game sense.

The Wrap: Tupou coup looks more profound by the day, Christie vitriol out of order, Argies and Scots a shambles

Rugby is a dynamic game played at pace. Good technique is not a fail safe. In the desire to tackle, catch the ball, win the ball at the breakdown, which requires 100% commitment, things can go wrong. He had a split second to react and committed himself. This is why these cards for “foul play” irk me. You can see a clear distinction between foul play and simply getting it wrong. And if the heavy penalties on tacklers are to prevent injuries by “forcing people to improve technique”, why is there no onus on the ball runner? Surely the Georgian should have changed his technique when he saw McDermott in that position. No? (Said with tongue in cheek)

The Wrap: Tupou coup looks more profound by the day, Christie vitriol out of order, Argies and Scots a shambles

No mention of Chile- Japan Geoff, or did I miss something? Thought it was a cracker of a match and was delighted to see Chile join the WC nations. It was pleasing to see a largely amateur team in action. Well drilled, but they still played with a certain freedom that you don’t see with the pros.

The Wrap: Tupou coup looks more profound by the day, Christie vitriol out of order, Argies and Scots a shambles

But that’s not the problem a third tier is trying to solve, Piru. The problem is a lack of depth of professional development. My point is that we should concentrate where we are strong because spreading ourselves thin is costly and dilutes talent. There is a reason Rebels and Force players go to Brisbane and Sydney, not their local comps. Having said all that, I’d love rugby to be played Australia wide at the highest level.

RA's target of a third tier in 2024 raises a whole heap of questions in desperate need of answers

Not really sure that is at all true. Certainly not in the professional era where expansion into other states has undermined QLD and NSW.

RA's target of a third tier in 2024 raises a whole heap of questions in desperate need of answers

Trying to make rugby viable in Victoria and WA is the expansion. I’m not sure it’s shifted the dial at all but again no expert insider knowledge. But I lived in Melbourne for four years. Rebels got no better. Crowds went down and my local club dropped a grade. It didn’t seem as though the Victorian people were being turned onto rugby. So I wouldn’t invest, at this stage, in developing a third tier in those states. I’d concentrate on where rugby has the biggest foothold currently

RA's target of a third tier in 2024 raises a whole heap of questions in desperate need of answers

Fair enough. So we just continue the dream that rugby is (or even could be) a national game and we can have the cake of a professional third tier while eating national expansion?

RA's target of a third tier in 2024 raises a whole heap of questions in desperate need of answers

Clearly many of them do already if the Force and Rebels players playing in the Hospital Cup in Brisbane, post Super rugby, are anything to go by. I could be wrong, but super players don’t return to the WA or Vic comps

RA's target of a third tier in 2024 raises a whole heap of questions in desperate need of answers

You’re right about Canberra. The point I’m making is that costs are prohibitive. We’re a geographically large country. We could reduce costs by concentrating the third tier to where most rugby is played and where most players come from. At least at first.

RA's target of a third tier in 2024 raises a whole heap of questions in desperate need of answers

Why does the third tier have to include Melbourne and Perth? This always seems the complicating factor. Almost all super players come from Brisbane and Sydney. Why not reinforce them in a third tier that professionalises the club game. They can still feed all the super teams and likely be better off

RA's target of a third tier in 2024 raises a whole heap of questions in desperate need of answers

Agreed. So why isn’t the only option in professional games to issue yellow and then see if red is warranted? They’ve got the technology, use it.

The Wrap: Why the Owen Farrell fiasco is a good thing for rugby

It is not just the judicial system that appears uneven. Over the weekend, Vunipola initially received a yellow to only get upgraded latter, meanwhile referee Luke Pearce (England) demonstrated indecent haste to pull his red card for Romania’s Motoc. From my arm chair, Vunipola’s high, no arms contact was deliberate and obvious in real time. Motoc’s seemed far less deliberate. Do head injuries matter less in tier one matches?

The Wrap: Why the Owen Farrell fiasco is a good thing for rugby

“It’s not comfort, as I discovered last week, but the 0-4 record hasn’t exactly brought any panic with it either.” No, it’s the absence of hope and despair that the beloved game is irrevocably damaged that many feel. Panic occurs when circumstances unexpectedly turn bad. This is an entrenched bad state of affairs. Made worse by being expected to now love that execrable borefest soccer

World Cups, unshakeable belief, the Wallabies, and those Waltzing Matildas

Some ideas well worn on these pages, some may be original:

Centralise professional rugby. State unions for the amateur game.

Reduction in super rugby teams to three to concentrate limited playing talent.

Development of a sustainable third tier semi- professional competition- existing club competitions then national series. Create incentives for sub-district teams to move up with relegation system. Consider including pathway for country comps to be involved.

Stop poaching mid-level leaguies. Use the money saved to develop and implement a national coaching strategy.

Provide proper coaching qualifications to the myriad parents who volunteer to coach kids (the online module is a waste of time)

Provide professional business advice to amateur clubs on how to expand the business potential of club houses etc. Move beyond trying to fund a game on sausage sizzles alone. More funds, better coaching, better players.

Engage with schools and expand their playing competitions beyond one term

Actively promote rugby in public schools- Auskick is everywhere in Queensland schools. Where is rugby?

Do more to identify talent in the universities (not just UQ and Syd Uni) and the Australian Defence Force, as well as country. There is a lot of rugby being played here, not just in GPS schools. And players can develop as young adults. Seems these days that you miss the boat if you weren’t identified as a 15 year old

Have an advertising and communication campaign to explain to fans the importance and joy of tight forward play and the set piece. Rugby is easy to knock- too many penalties, scrums, rucks are boring etc- and we do it to ourself. From the club level up, the running player is lauded, the workhorses overlooked.

Stop expecting Nic White to do anything except box kick every bit of possession away.

Wallabies fans appear comfortable with 0 and 4 – but some obvious questions remain

They’ve made it to the quarterfinals. Let’s see how they go from there. In rugby, must we sink so low that making the quarterfinals (which admittedly may not happen this year) is something to be proud of?

Wallabies fans appear comfortable with 0 and 4 – but some obvious questions remain

Comfortable? Not in the least. Fuming at the huge decline in Australian professional rugby. Appalled by the over reliance on experienced but unsuccessful players and myths from the northern hemisphere. Saddened by the desperation: Eddie will turn it around, huge money for another leaguie will improve results, “we need to see White start with Gordon and play the same way McDermott did.” Desperate thinking in the face of mounds of evidence to the contrary, and the absence of any realistic thinking about how the Wallabies can actually improve long term

Wallabies fans appear comfortable with 0 and 4 – but some obvious questions remain

close