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Enough. We have the greatest game in the world with fantastic traditions but we are constantly trying to change it. We’re not America and shouldn’t want to be. Only those in the final side have traditionally been recognised, that in part is what makes it special.

AFL News: Collingwood calls for AFL to introduce premiership rings, Prestia eyes return for Tigers

Yeah I don’t disagree, not sure what it is. For all the talk of Matthews he was the one of course who presided over the six month 1990 celebration.

Stuff the excuses - Collingwood are making the same mistakes as always after success, and it's time to act

You know you’re right Dom none of those things happened I just hate Buckley.
Much in the same way as WW2 didn’t happen we all just chose to hate Adolf.
You rewrite history any way you like, I give up.

'The level of delusion is something else': Eddie McGuire's defence of his disastrous coaching succession plan is ridiculous

Ok I’ll give it one more go but please understand this before one of us die.
You can’t take over the youngest list to win a flag in 32 years proceed to drive them into the ground within two then ‘would have, could have, should have but didn’t win a flag’ seven years later with a list that bears little resemblance to the one you took over then call it a success. Why can’t you understand this? All the best Don.

'The level of delusion is something else': Eddie McGuire's defence of his disastrous coaching succession plan is ridiculous

No Don, the point is valid you just don’t understand. I’ll try to explain it to you. The article was about the succession plan with occurred at the end of the 2011 season. The author is saying it was unsuccessful as he believes being such a young side they should have been challenging for years to come immediately following. They didn’t, within a couple of years they were out of the finals. You then bring up as ‘evidence’ Buckley’s performance in 2018 a full seven years later, not relevant to what we’re talking about Dom! Comprede?

'The level of delusion is something else': Eddie McGuire's defence of his disastrous coaching succession plan is ridiculous

Don that was seven/eight years after they’d won the flag and followed up in the GF having only lost three games for the year with as detailed a really young side. Should have been competing all that time . The 2018 side was almost a completely different side.

'The level of delusion is something else': Eddie McGuire's defence of his disastrous coaching succession plan is ridiculous

Spot on. A number of points I was thinking of as I read your article you went on to articulate such as being the youngest premiership team since the Hawks in ’78. Should have been contending for another five years thereafter. Only the Pies can shoot themselves in the foot like that. I’d like to think the present mob are a lot more professional. I also believe Eddie’s contribution to the financial stability of the club is overrated. Read a piece a few years back which attributed a lot of the recovery to Kevin Rose’s administration immediately before Eddie’s reign started such as the Emirates deal but the Roses weren’t the types to blow their own trumpet like some.

'The level of delusion is something else': Eddie McGuire's defence of his disastrous coaching succession plan is ridiculous

The reference to last year was in regards to trying to establish how May assesses his team’s performance as his judgement is questionable at best ie if he thinks he’s better than the Pies this year given the outcome well what did he think about last year given it’s outcome. I assume if he thinks Melbourne are better than the premiers he’d also feel the same in regards to Brisbane, Port and Carlton who all finished higher. Maybe we should save time on this whole the concept of “playing games” thing and just award the flag to whomever May nominates at Melbourne’s annual B&F.

'Should have smoked them': May claims Dees 'so much better than Pies', says qualifying final loss 'f--king hurts'

All the best Steele.

'Should have smoked them': May claims Dees 'so much better than Pies', says qualifying final loss 'f--king hurts'

So in a nutshell bad kicking and excuses both isolated to this year. So what about the previous year when the Pies beat them twice and finished a point off the GF and the Dees went out in straight sets, were they better then too?
ps They’re not still going on about Brayshaw are they? Dees have to come to terms with the fact that it’s a physical contact sport and people get hurt doesn’t mean it’s always someone else’s fault. If Brayshaw has a predisposition to concussion maybe he shouldn’t play a physical contact sport. He has a responsibility to his own health can’t put it all on the opposition.

'Should have smoked them': May claims Dees 'so much better than Pies', says qualifying final loss 'f--king hurts'

I would have liked him to elaborate as I don’t understand how he can rationalize that Melbourne are better than the Pies who are the premiers and have beaten the Dees eight out of the last ten times they’ve played. Now we have the captain of a side (Adelaide) which didn’t even make the finals saying they too are better than the Pies even though they were beaten by the eventual premiers twice this year. Would have, could have, should have.

'Should have smoked them': May claims Dees 'so much better than Pies', says qualifying final loss 'f--king hurts'

Ok Don it’s clear you don’t like the Pies I understand that you know with all the flags and stuff it must be grating I’d hate them too if I didn’t barrack for them but it seems to be eating you up inside. It’s just a game move on Don choose happiness.

'No way he could have heard': Zorko reacts to controversial GF advantage as caller laments 'flat out wrong' call

I can confirm I continue to feel good about it and you can continue to please yourself. How you rationalize the reality that the Pies are premiers is totally up to you but know it ain’t changing for at least another 51 weeks. Go Pies!

'No way he could have heard': Zorko reacts to controversial GF advantage as caller laments 'flat out wrong' call

Bit of a gross generalization to say the whole AFL. Nah I don’t see it that way. Bad decisions went both ways. Pies clearly the best side all year deserved the Prelim win and probably should have won the granny by 4 plus goals. Winners are grinners and losers well they can please themselves.

'No way he could have heard': Zorko reacts to controversial GF advantage as caller laments 'flat out wrong' call

Sorry please elaborate. Why exactly did GWS deserve to be there?

'No way he could have heard': Zorko reacts to controversial GF advantage as caller laments 'flat out wrong' call

Please if you want to talk about decisions which cost flags take a ticket and get in the queue behind the Pies it’s going to be a long wait.

'No way he could have heard': Zorko reacts to controversial GF advantage as caller laments 'flat out wrong' call

This is exhausting. We’re not still going are we?

Kane Cornes' crusade against 'flopping' Magpie isn't just disgraceful - it's dangerous

I think it’s well established that you can pick, choose and manipulate stats and any other evidence to support any argument you like. I can provide a truckload of evidence to support Intelligence Design theory doesn’t make it true though. For instance I don’t believe contested marking is necessarily the be all and end all of the measure of bravery, I feel running back with the flight of the ball with your eyes on the ball holds more weight, regardless of whether you actually take the mark. In regards to contested possession I think that 4.6 is not bad given the position he plays and his role within the team. He isn’t a big possession player anyway and again I wouldn’t have thought it’s too much of a reliable guide otherwise you’d think inside mids would have a mortgage on awards relating to bravery ie the one Archer use to win a lot. You talk about his size I think suggesting that because he’s relatively tall and has a bit of weight there isn’t much he should fear? Is that right? Strange if that’s the case as there are plenty on the field I’m sure could still do some damage to him. Jonathan Brown and Nick Riewoldt were also decent sizes probably bigger than Murphy yet they were lauded for their bravery. Disappointed you resorted to that old chestnut about the Collingwood fans. An easy shot. Of course I could easily make the opposite observation that non Pies fans are biased when discussing Collingwood players. Like your observation maybe true in some cases but not others. Have to agree to disagree Macca, have to get back to work. Have a good weekend.

Kane Cornes' crusade against 'flopping' Magpie isn't just disgraceful - it's dangerous

No I don’t think this is Facebook, I don’t know what ‘brah’ means, yes I am a Collingwood supporter and no I don’t see any relevancy to any of this. Maybe you can get Macca to come to your rescue again as I think you’re struggling.

Kane Cornes' crusade against 'flopping' Magpie isn't just disgraceful - it's dangerous

Hi Macca,
I know we’re getting way off topic here but I believe we have a different interpretation of what bravery is in a sporting context. To me it’s choosing to put yourself in harms way for the betterment of you or others. In a sporting context (which I thought was what we were talking about) its acts such as running back with the flight of the ball which I’ve seen Murphy do countless times. The challenges Sam Docherty has faced while huge aren’t really relevant to this conversation as they primarily took place off the field. Yes this is my opinion and yes I know others will disagree. He’s done really well getting back to play but to me its not bravery in a sporting context. I’m sure Docherty is brave on the field too as the vast majority of those who take the field are but I probably should have said there is nobody braver than Murphy.

Kane Cornes' crusade against 'flopping' Magpie isn't just disgraceful - it's dangerous

“Yeah right”, that’s a compelling argument, no comeback for that!

Kane Cornes' crusade against 'flopping' Magpie isn't just disgraceful - it's dangerous

BTW your comment regarding the author being ‘delightfully ironic and lacking self awareness’ was delightfully pretentious. He and the respondents are fully entitled to pass comment on the merits of a public figure’s work as you yourself have regarding Murphy or is it just those opinions you don’t share disparaging?

Kane Cornes' crusade against 'flopping' Magpie isn't just disgraceful - it's dangerous

Couldn’t have said it better myself, saves me time having to articulate it. The Ginnivan GoPro thing fair dinkum yes he probably shouldn’t have done it but who cares, he was a 19 year old kid having fun it wasn’t the crime of the century yet Cornes wouldn’t shut up about it.

Kane Cornes' crusade against 'flopping' Magpie isn't just disgraceful - it's dangerous

Probably the bravest player in the league.

Kane Cornes' crusade against 'flopping' Magpie isn't just disgraceful - it's dangerous

Given his poor results from a large sample size Warner should never have been selected for this tour. The same applies for the Indian tour. Mid 20s average in the two biggest tour destinations is what prevents him being described as a champion in my opinion. Sick of hearing ‘experts’ (usually his NSW cricketing mates) saying how he’s done very well this tour and citing his 66 as evidence. Even with that score he still is only averaging 23 this tour and Pope dropped a simple catch when he was on 22 in that innings anyway, otherwise he’d be averaging high teens.

Ashes Scout: 'I feel like I'm in great touch' - Warner denies Broad's in his head, England prepared to get even funkier

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