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I doubt it’s loss making.
Liverpool are wealthy but they aren’t wealthy enough to waste money on retail rent in Singapore.
Singapore is also at the end of the day a small market (6 million).
On national day you see just how many Liverpool kits there are, and Man U for that matter… everyone wears red that day
With fans opting for international comps over domestic football, what are some lessons for the A-League from Singapore?
NZ aren’t in the AFC.
The Malaysian league isn’t bad. Ive seen a couple of games in JB which turn in a reasonable crowd.
But the match day experience is woeful and getting to and from stadiums means dealing with Malaysian traffic.
It also suffers from the same issue nowadays as Singapore though (although not as extreme). A poor quality local product vs an extremely accessible EPL that is swallowing up everything in English speaking Asia.
P.S sepak takraw is SO good. Malaysia is also a bastion of good squash players thanks to Nicol David keeping the flame burning.
With fans opting for international comps over domestic football, what are some lessons for the A-League from Singapore?
Citizens and PR’s get $100 a year in credit from the govt to use the paid facilities too
I pay $3 an hour to play squash in non-peak times.
With fans opting for international comps over domestic football, what are some lessons for the A-League from Singapore?
Or, rejoining Malaysia?
Eww, no.
With fans opting for international comps over domestic football, what are some lessons for the A-League from Singapore?
What’s genuinely fascinating about athletics here is that Singapore has more athletics tracks (as in, legit Olympic standard tracks with the Mondotrack surface) than NSW, VIC and QLD combined but with almost nothing to show for it at elite levels.
But they are free to use and open at least 16 hours a day. Great facilities.
With fans opting for international comps over domestic football, what are some lessons for the A-League from Singapore?
It’s a great place.
Cost of living in Australia has caught up to Singapore (except rent). With the low tax rates, a strong SGD and being able to hire a live-in nanny, along with it being unbelievably safe, and cheap cheap Malaysia across the bridge, I can’t see any reason to return to Australia yet.
All the best! I’m signing back off.
Great article.
With fans opting for international comps over domestic football, what are some lessons for the A-League from Singapore?
Singapore hasn’t yet learned how to gouge the paying customer. I saw Tufanooo post about the cinema…it’s embarrassingly cheap here. You can watch a film, get a popcorn and drink and just escape under $20-25.
These guys should go on a fact finding tour to Australia.
With fans opting for international comps over domestic football, what are some lessons for the A-League from Singapore?
Good lord no.
I no one who does, and I work in an office with a decidedly local demographic. If there are fans, they keep it a secret. Pre-covid I attended a game when I was living close by Jalan Besar. The only people there are friends and family.
However, people are very astute Liverpool and Man U fans (and Arsenal too). There is an official Liverpool merchandise store here, along with fully fledged and club endorse fan societies here.
A LOT of grabs/gojek cars here will have YNWA somewhere on the car.
With fans opting for international comps over domestic football, what are some lessons for the A-League from Singapore?
Oh, national stadium is pretty good.
Cheap food, cheap pints, air cooling under the seat, good sight lines.
When the roof is closed it’s even better – keeps the sound trapped for a better atmosphere.
With fans opting for international comps over domestic football, what are some lessons for the A-League from Singapore?
This is misleading. They got good crowds against better teams such as China and Thailand (I went to the China match) and that’s because Singapore were still theoretically at least in contention. Barely 10k turned up to the match against Guam.
But now Singapore are out of contention for the next stage of qualifying, it will be interesting to see if they can get 30k for South Korea. If they do, it will be so people can watch Son Heung Min.
With fans opting for international comps over domestic football, what are some lessons for the A-League from Singapore?
Hi.
Coming back on to comment because I live in Singapore.
Good article Chris. A lot of it was correct, although some stats need some contextualising.
No matches are played in the morning. It’s all in the evening.
All matches can actually be watched via conventional streaming on MEwatch. Every household has it. Most matches, if not all, are live. The commentator is hilariously keen considering the product and atmosphere.
It’s not the cost of the transport, it’s the location of the stadiums. People wouldn’t willingly go from east to west in Singapore even for free. Tampines to Jurong is a solid 70 minutes, and no way are you doing that on a work night. Jalan Besar stadium is good if you live on the downtown line, but otherwise it is tricky to get to.
The heat is certainly a factor in keeping the crowds away. Except the national stadium…that’s artificially cooled under the seat.
But ultimately, it’s the product. It’s rubbish. You can’t get behind it. It exists for the sake of existing so that Singapore can remain in the AFC and FIFA. The island would not miss it if it left. They don’t care for it.
But it’s not just football, Singapore isn’t big on live sport unless it is a premium product. Even when the local teams got to play the European teams last July, they couldn’t sell out the national stadium. Rugby sevens is on this week, and they’ll struggle to get beyond 30k a day, and nearly all that will be expats anyway.
The only major sporting events that are guaranteed to sell out is the f1 (and even then only on race day) and if Liverpool/ManU/Man City came to town.
Hope you enjoyed Singapore though! You get used to the humidity after a while…
With fans opting for international comps over domestic football, what are some lessons for the A-League from Singapore?
No. All in the evening.
With fans opting for international comps over domestic football, what are some lessons for the A-League from Singapore?
That’s a pretty good idea actually.
Probably not Fiji, but a SE Asian tour would be pretty good. Play Singapore, Malaysia, perhaps even Thailand if they are lucky.
Would give some of them an opportunity to get some overseas exposure too.
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So, a fully developed country such as Australia walked away from the games because of a $7b price tag to host them, but a 100m GBP bait to a substantially poorer nation means they will?
Granted it wont be $7b to host them in Malaysia, but it will still be $2-3b. How will 100m GBP possibly help?
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What advertising do you see on FTA television? Sweet Foxtrot Alpha. The Coalition of the Concerned i.e. FTA media and backyard codes are doing a mighty effective job of locking football out.
I mean, you are aware that advertising on TV is not charity? Unless the broadcaster is paying for the product, the company that wants its product advertised needs to pay for it?
I am going to suggest that the definition of “premium product” is relative to the preferences and palate of the ticket buyer, and in some cases I would suggest that it’s going to be a very lean diet if you don’t like football.
Well, you’ve answered your own question. Because barely anyone turned up to that Newcastle v Perth match, while 100,000 turned up to the “cross-country football” match where Collingwood beat Brisbane in a thriller by less than a goal.
You’re the worst kind of fan. Someone incapable of enjoying two things so you belittle everyone else who can.
With so much festive football to celebrate, will anyone turn up?
Number plates aren’t linked to licences.
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Registration is different from licence though. No licence is tied to the rego.
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I won’t go into why but I know.
Actually, you won’t go into why because you don’t know.
If you knew, you would be earning BIG bucks in an American sports franchise on the coaching panel, because even they with their massive buckets of money haven’t been able to measure intent, and haven’t got any “intent specialist consultants” on the staff at any professional or college team.
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Spectators can move between shade and sun
That would technically be a violation of the conditions of entry on the ticket.
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Sorry Chris.
Stopped posting comments on this website about a month or so ago, and am breaking my rule today with this one off. I do read the articles and posts from time to time though.
This Ed guy…ain’t me.
But nice to see I still live rent free in your head. It was also hilarious to see Para go ballistic at some unfortunate sod last week also called Nick.
You can respond, you can choose to believe or not. I don’t care. And i won’t be posting any additional comments. I’d probably encourage you to do the same. It’s actually a lot better for one’s health to just read and not respond. But I doubt you will.
Peace out.
The A-League's 'family-friendly' kick-off times are keeping fans away
Optus gave away the farm, the no 1 ticket item is the Matildas and the final games.
No, there would have been intense pressure from all sides to allow an FTA network to broadcast the finals and Optus would have copped some bad PR.
There was precedent in England during the cricket world cup in 2019, when Sky Sports as a gesture of goodwill on sold the semi-finals and final to ITV.
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So I’m meant to say something positive about a result that will never happen.
Even if Browning cracks 10, he will never make a final. He is not a top 8 sprinter.
He gets a disproportionate level of attention for someone who, results wise, is poor.
We have two actual world champions that are barely getting a mention in the papers. We have a legit chance in the pole vault and the current world leader for 2023 in the women’s high jump. Brandon Starc is in the men’s high jump final tonight.
These are the positive stories I’ll happily talk about. Chuck in Jess Hull, Peter Bol too.
All the pre talk chat in the mainstream media was whether Browning could make a final, when there was absolutely no form to indicate it.
He is not good enough and proof why funding should be very, very bespoke in Australian athletics.
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Channel 7 were very astute. They correctly saw the women’s world cup to be a ratings bonanza. Much like SBS in 2005 picking up the rights to the Ashes after Channel 9 declined to bid. Oops!
Optus were very astute as well to ensure that they weren’t giving away the farm to a FTA network. 15 games was fair enough when all things were considered. They did pretty well out of the subscriptions.
“Supporters” of Australian football, Channel 10, need to be taken out the back and thumped.
Plenty of winners after Women's World Cup, yet funding debate addresses most important group of all
Fair call, Joel
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I disagree travel has gotten better tbh.
I’m in KL once a month and I reckon it’s getting way worse.
There are just too many cars.
With fans opting for international comps over domestic football, what are some lessons for the A-League from Singapore?