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wtf are you talking about!?!

The Waratahs make it 38 successive Australian losses to Kiwi sides

what utter nonsense

The Waratahs make it 38 successive Australian losses to Kiwi sides

the difference between the rebels, and all their opposition it seems, is their fitness becasue they are falling away in the 2nd half.

between the AB’s and the wallabies in all 3 games the wallabies finished stronger.

The Waratahs make it 38 successive Australian losses to Kiwi sides

and use your logic…

players will then seek that extra 10k by agreeing to bigger contracts overseas

The Waratahs make it 38 successive Australian losses to Kiwi sides

There was a clear hands in the ruck before their 1st try, a clear knock on before the 2nd blues try, and there was a clear knock on before the blues were awarded a penalty that they kicked.

As i said the tahs were unlucky. Unlucky not to have won that game by 15 points

The Waratahs make it 38 successive Australian losses to Kiwi sides

All Blacks were the better team in the 1st half of the 1st game, they outscored us in the 2nd half of the 2nd game by 7 points. That was it.

The wallabies scored 12 tries in last years bledisloe series which is the most i can recall in my life.

Overall the wallabies were the better team across the 3 games. lost the first one to the better team, they were the better team in the 2nd game (unlcuky to lose to a final play try) and were comprehensively better in a close scoring game in the 3rd, which they won.

The bledisloe is coming home this year!

The Waratahs make it 38 successive Australian losses to Kiwi sides

JN expansive play is a double edged sword.

199 completed passes, 60% posession, we are going to have a higher turnover rate because of the style of our play.

We scored 3 tries and had the final kick been a metre short folau scores in the corner, making it 4, and were all crowing about how good the tahs are.

it can be a fine line

The Waratahs make it 38 successive Australian losses to Kiwi sides

Beale didn’t fumble it.

it was hand in the ruck by the blues

also consider the obvious knock ons by the blues missed by peyper

tahs were very unlucky

The Waratahs make it 38 successive Australian losses to Kiwi sides

who caught the ball and got tackled before it miraculously spilled out of the ruck.

had that final freak occurrence (i say freak because if u watch closely i’m not convinced it wasn’t hand in the ruck by the blues.. watch his knee go to ground before he reefs it back) then we wouldn’t be talking about 2 bad passes ( a tiny percentage considering the quality of the completed 199 passes)

The Waratahs make it 38 successive Australian losses to Kiwi sides

ummm

you understand the BIL are the best of leinster, munster, Ulster etc but also all the clubs in England, Wales and Scotland right?

hows your logic going?

The Waratahs make it 38 successive Australian losses to Kiwi sides

peter kelly, the waratahs made 199 passes that stuck. A small proportion were dropped.

Their set piece was perfect, their ruck percentage was 93%, their possession and field position was about 60% a piece.

They scored 3 tries to 2. (1 of the blues was more luck than anything)

Last night the luckier team won. The better team did not.

The Waratahs make it 38 successive Australian losses to Kiwi sides

‘although rugby refuses to address some of the more glaringly unattractive and illogical bits like 3 point penalty kicks from anywhere for minor offences.’

You do understand that Australia does not control rugby right and that it is because that it is an international success story that this will not change?

As long as twickenham is being sold out to watch Owen Farrell bang over goals from scrum penalties why would it change?

because aussies don’t embrace these nuisances? no we need to change. not the game of rugby.

The Waratahs make it 38 successive Australian losses to Kiwi sides

If Ireland had to field 4 or 5 super rugby franchises in super rugby they too would struggle to beat the NZ franchises.

The BIL( the best rugby talent from all the home nations) struggled to beat super rugby franchises form NZ.

The point is there are simply facts that we should take into consideration before questioning the intent and performance of our boys.

yes we must consider the dilution of talent via too many franchises, loss of talent to a more popular rival code in this land, and the exodus of many aussies to europe and japan.

Not excuses. observations.

The Waratahs make it 38 successive Australian losses to Kiwi sides

as for losing against the kiwis in super rugby.

Easily fixed.We go back to 3 franchises!

The Waratahs make it 38 successive Australian losses to Kiwi sides

Performance v results

The performance of the wallabies last year in the bledisloe, apart from the 1st half of the 1st amtch, was excellent, at times good, at other times absolutely brilliant.

The results weren’t great but the author and other alarmists are confusing results with performances.

As for the Jake -ball. that is also not a fait accompli for victory. It also has its limitations. it also oftens results in losses.

You don’t understand the australian psyche if you think coaches should start playing 10 man rugby!

The Waratahs make it 38 successive Australian losses to Kiwi sides

perhaps because he’s won the waratah player of they year for 5 seasons straight.

The Waratahs make it 38 successive Australian losses to Kiwi sides

Yes but that was your Headline and besides your contention is alarmist. I was at Waratah training a couple of weeks ago. I’ve never seen human beings work harder. They earn every penny they get!

What you have to do is stop counting the drop balls and start thinking about the intent. Intent to play expansive is what we all want but we must take the good with the bad. its a higher risk game plan. It does not always come off.

As for the general results. If we ere playing 3 super rugby sides as we did in the supposed golden age of aussie rugby, there’d not be the gap in NZ v Australia super rugby results.

We can judge Australian rugby on the wallabies. not super rugby.

The wallabies won 4 of the 6 halves v NZ last year. They just got the order wrong.

Its not as bad as you’d like to think and sensationalise.

I enjoyed the game last night. A few things went against us. it could’ve just as easily been a different result.

The Waratahs make it 38 successive Australian losses to Kiwi sides

The drought breaker came last year at scuncorp when the wallabies beat the all blacks.

Forget the knee jerkers that will tell you our players can’t catch etc. We already know we don’t have the depth of NZ rugby so agonising over super rugby results is not a good idea.

If we went back to 3 super rugby teams, as we were in the first decade of super rugby, we’d not be talking about the detah of Australian rugby. thats the only difference.

All that matters is that for 4 of the 6 halves of rugby in last years Bledisloe we were the better team. Thats the healthiest our game has been in years.

Every now and then we will rise to the top. Thats the plight of aussie rugby over our entire history. Its our 3rd ot 4th most popular code.

ps i enjoyed last nights Tahs game. we didn’t get the ‘w’. We came close. So what.

Promising signs, but Aussie rugby's drought continues

I think you all missed the poiint of Invictus.

Sport transcends the field.

That movie was about Nelson Mandela. A far more important topic than the RWC.

You went to watch a movie about rugby. You went to see a mediocre actor in matt damon. I went to watch a movie about the great man played by a great actor.

I loved the movie.

Rugby. A game of inches

It has not been 38 straight losses between australian and new zealand sides.

the Wallalbies beat the All Blacks at suncorp

The Waratahs make it 38 successive Australian losses to Kiwi sides

says who

I met him the other day and if anything he’s 5 kgs heavier than last year.

Hes been pumping weights in the gym.

Is David Pocock's return a solution or compounding the problem?

jeznez straw man

never said any of those things

I spoke of the collective pack sizes, there was no way the tahs gave away 70kgs. they did on paper but as I’ve said the programs of player sizes on’t ever get updated. They are unreliable.

The tahs pack was by and large just as big as the reds. perhaps a few kilos ligter on average per man but nothing of the significance you blokes keep carrying on with.

thats probably why the tahs were the dominant pack

Is David Pocock's return a solution or compounding the problem?

have you personally weighed them?

Is David Pocock's return a solution or compounding the problem?

thats the2nd time i’ve seen this type of comment

when i’m not loggged in obviously i just put in RTT (Rugby Tragic Too) but wtf are you talking about in regards to Ray. I’m not RAY!!!!

Israel Folau back where he belongs at fullback

Yes Folau at fullback is much better for the team because he can pop up anywhere

Israel Folau back where he belongs at fullback

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