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We have road rules to mitigate against accidents. So should we abandon road rules as we still have accidents. It’s about introducing measures to mitigate and reduce the numbers not elimination. And there has been scientific evidence to confirm getting tackle height lower is helpful

Game’s gone soft, huh? League's tough enough without dangerous incidents getting feather touch from judiciary

There is obviously going to be a battle between Robertson and NZR to negate the long held policy of only picking from the NZ SR franchises. In recent times there has been a slight crack in the door with the use of so called sabbaticals so this would be another step down the road of changing the policy. There are arguments on both sides, one favouring the ABs picking the best and the other trying to ensure SR does not become a development tool for wealthy French and Japanese clubs to plunder. Australia had the Giteau rule of 3 overseas players which “ whatever he wants” Eddie was excused from. From an Aussie viewpoint I think an exception for 5 players- no more- would still be an incentive for some to remain in Aussie. It will be interesting to see what decision NZR takes. Robertson is clearly pushing hard to overturn the previous policy.

Razor's pursuit of 'hard bastard' Sam Whitelock reveals the ugly truth about the modern All Blacks

Unfortunately we have high profile commentators such as Gould who is bitterly opposed to the “ game going soft.” Some of his comments are laughable they are so out of touch when it comes to player safety but he is clearly a highly influential person who unfortunately is putting players long term health at issue by his attitude.

Game’s gone soft, huh? League's tough enough without dangerous incidents getting feather touch from judiciary

If you come in upright the chances of head contact such as this is greatly increased, it’s really very simple. “ Duty to bend” is merely a confirmation of what is basic commonsense. But for some reason people do not seem to really want to take a reasoned approach to reducing brain damage

Game’s gone soft, huh? League's tough enough without dangerous incidents getting feather touch from judiciary

Fair enough but that was not the impression I gained. Plus on that radio show he as always very negative about Rugby. I get it to a degree because most listeners were Leaguies but he did little to promote rugby.

Set up to fail: The gaping hole in Aussie Super Rugby coaching CVs - with one clear exception

Heard directly from the radio sports program with Graham Hughes. Very derogatory about NPC and basically admitted he thought it devalued SS.

Set up to fail: The gaping hole in Aussie Super Rugby coaching CVs - with one clear exception

When I heard him he was definite that the NRC was a waste of space and his big concern was that it devalued the SS. He was definite that it did nothing for player or coach development but for me it was all him about protecting his own patch.And that seemed to mirror the general attitude of the SS clubs.

Set up to fail: The gaping hole in Aussie Super Rugby coaching CVs - with one clear exception

Hmmm! Sort of proves the arrogance theory

Set up to fail: The gaping hole in Aussie Super Rugby coaching CVs - with one clear exception

Well said Mary. Unfortunately we have high profile commentators, Gus Gould being the leading protagonist, who have little regard for players safety, “ It’s a man’s game” syndrome is well entrenched in the NRL. Even the sad mental decline of former greats does little to wake them from their self induced foolishness.

NRL consistently inconsistent when it comes to punishments for head-high contact

FF and it was this Sydney Shute Shield arrogance and protecting their own patch rather than working for the overall good that held the NRC back. Most comments from players and coaches was that the NRC was a good development tool. I remember Brett Papworth who was President of Eastwood decrying the NRC but only because he feared it downgraded the importance of the SS and his club. Highly selfish, short sighted attitude.

Set up to fail: The gaping hole in Aussie Super Rugby coaching CVs - with one clear exception

Big Dave, perhaps mongrel but not work rate. Previously it was primarily McDermott and McReight basically carrying the Reds. The current speed of the ruck ball and the desperation in defence comes from commitment and work rate not mongrel. Thorn stayed on far too long as is evident from the dramatic improvement in the Reds. The team is obviously in a far happier place than under Thorn who I suspect had lost the playing group.

Set up to fail: The gaping hole in Aussie Super Rugby coaching CVs - with one clear exception

It’s meant as a compliment to the strength of the game in NZ.

'It's time we grew up': The jarring hypocrisy that proves All Blacks are getting key call all wrong

I think the lack of competitiveness against the Kiwis has led us to savour any Aussie victory. If we had teams beating the Kiwis regularly I think that would change.
Re a SRAU comp I cannot see how that can be funded sufficiently to pay salaries that would entice the best players to participate. You would need 8 teams to have a viable long term comp. So where are the extra 3 teams based. Forget minnow states like SA and Tasmania, those teams would be unsustainable. Even assuming Fiji stayed in the comp due Aussie government assistance 2 teams are required. Perhaps NSW Country and QLD country. There are enough regional stadiums of sufficient quality to host but both financially and player quality wise there are hurdles. The standard of Rugby would be well below SRP making the step up to Tests even more challenging.

Passionate, visceral, irrational tribalism is vital for any competition to succeed. Is a lack of it damaging Super Rugby?

I am in favour of picking from SR only but the power of the dollar may force change. It’s not only the big names heading off but those on the way up as well. NZ has far greater depth than Aussie so can sustain the home selection only for longer. Hopefully that continues but I can see the lure of dollar may eventually force change. It already has to a degree with the “sabbaticals”.

'It's time we grew up': The jarring hypocrisy that proves All Blacks are getting key call all wrong

It’s certainly better for the Aussie teams but not sure it’s good for the comp in NZ. You may disagree but my impression is that a good number of Kiwis resent the regular stand down of ABs.

'It's time we grew up': The jarring hypocrisy that proves All Blacks are getting key call all wrong

Yeah the crowds are up a bit . Back in 2011 I think the Reds averaged over 25k per match. Still a long way short of those numbers. The Courier Mail- Murdoch – Fox- give virtually zero coverage to the Reds so that’s not helpful. And the mess RA are in does not help. But the crowds are better than the last few seasons which to be honest were embarrassingly poor.

'It's time we grew up': The jarring hypocrisy that proves All Blacks are getting key call all wrong

Geez Jacko you are so sensitive. In Aussie Rugby was always described as a religion in NZ. Now obviously not a religion in strict sense but to convey the importance of the game, just as they say AFL is a religion in Victoria. My opinion that in the last few decades Rugby in general does not hold the same importance as it once did but the ABs are still held in the high regard they always were.

'It's time we grew up': The jarring hypocrisy that proves All Blacks are getting key call all wrong

The upside is it is designed to keep players in peak condition for the ABs but the downside is to SR. In the current financial climate is it a good idea to have ABs sitting on the sidelines when they could be playing. I think it’s been commonly accepted that SR needs to increase its appeal, having star players being stood down is hardly conducive to that outcome.

'It's time we grew up': The jarring hypocrisy that proves All Blacks are getting key call all wrong

That’s a good post. It’s a very difficult task to battle against the overseas dollars. I do not agree with the author. You run the risk of SR becoming a recruitment comp for the French and Japanese comps if you have open slather on national selection. But I think NZR have erred in their Rest and Rotation policy. I have no objection in a RWC year but this policy has devalued SR as a professional comp in its own right.

'It's time we grew up': The jarring hypocrisy that proves All Blacks are getting key call all wrong

I have seen some excellent games this season- games played at extreme pace with great skill execution. There will always be a variation in standard during a season but the product looks good to me. Unfortunately in Aussie Rugby is on the nose and it will take time and continued competitiveness to attract the casual sport fan.

'It's time we grew up': The jarring hypocrisy that proves All Blacks are getting key call all wrong

“Rugby in this country is all about the All Blacks”. An accurate statement. Years ago the general public were invested into Rugby in general. Now it’s the ABs who are the religion, not Rugby.

'It's time we grew up': The jarring hypocrisy that proves All Blacks are getting key call all wrong

Numpty,There are different rules for maul to scrum. Use it for the maul includes moving the maul forward within 5 sec from the 1st stoppage. 2nd stoppage means ball must be used by halfback immediately. At scrum use it means the half back must play the ball, it does not allow holding it in the scrum for secondary shove,

The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion

Geoff, the Law
“When the scrum is stationary and the ball has been available at the back of the scrum for three-five seconds, the referee calls “use it”. The team must then play the ball out of the scrum immediately. Sanction: Scrum.”

The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion

Also based on comments here if the scrum becomes stationary for a few seconds the Ref can call use it. If it restarts moving that should be irrelevant post the call. And moving means forward not sideways. Now I have not seen the incident, this is just clarification of how the Law should be applied.

The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion

I did not see the incident but quite often I think the Ref waits too long for saying use it. Not a fan of scrumming for PKs. For push over tries it’s fine if the Ref gives them opportunity but mid field sometimes it is quite sometime before the secondary shove comes.

The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion

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