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The first thing I thought of as I read this was – UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

Yep, everyone has a new idea, until it leads to something else entirely they hadn’t thought about.

Reducing penalties from 3 to 2 points is a gimme idea presented annually. So now you have tries remaining at 5 points, & penalties at 2 points. It will take 3 penalties (6 pts) to pass an uncovered try (5 pts) & 4 penalties to pass a converted try (7 pts).

Guess what will happen? Guess? 10 seconds – 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

Professional fouls will increase exponentially. Out. Next idea……….!

Most of humanity is stupid because they think the easy fix is the solution. Which it almost never is.

Reduce the value of penalties, and four more law changes that would be game-changing for rugby

JGK,
WTF is Accor Stm? I wish people would call stadia by their generic name, like Stm Australia & Lang Pk.
Stuff the corporate advertising!

'This is the day negativity stops' - but now the battle for who hosts the final starts

This is the day the negativity stops.
I’ve long been fascinated by, especially having been attacked regularly on this forum, that what others see as negativity, I see as honesty.
Give me honesty over fool’s paradise any day.
I just discovered the other day that famous writer George Orwell observed you can only live in a free society when you quote the mathematical truth (or any truth) that 2 plus 2 equals 4, without hysterical criticism.
Anyway, the sporting landscape is vastly different in 2022 to 2003.
Back then the Wallabies were mostly successful, the jersey widely cherished & the game respected.
Today only the rusted-on true believers still believe. Everyone else has left the room.
The jersey is no longer sacred (despite the Indigenous version being the best) & the game in this country has become a laughing stock.
Well no, not even a laughing stock, because most of the country couldn’t care less anymore.
But hey, good luck with that, etc.

'This is the day negativity stops' - but now the battle for who hosts the final starts

Jacko,
Aussies are overblown blowhard buffoons when it comes to sport. I know that.
And who cares if AFL & NRL doesn’t rate on the international stage.
It’s all about giving your domestic market what they want.
And that’s why AFL & NRL are 1 & 2 in the domestic team sports market, because they give the fans what they want.

Super Rugby is a 'disaster', Warriors a 'disgrace' and Phoenix 'hopeless': is Kiwi sport really living a 'big fat lie'?

Chris Rattue is saying what a lot of people his generation (our generation) are thinking. I agree with the broad thrust of what he is saying.

NZ rugby league is as woeful as Oz rugby union. It’s obvious where each country’s priorities lie. And I agree Super Rugby Pacific is proving no better than its predecessors. Rugby is becoming unwatchable.

I can’t remember the last time I watched a full game of rugby. The continual stoppages to find fault absolutely does my head in. But I also struggle to watch rugby league. Just a whole bunch of dimwits bashing into each other.

At the risk of offending Kiwis, you’re only good at one sport – rugby union. You might have occasional success elsewhere, but rugby is pretty much all you have. Your current cricket team is good, but put that down to the ‘golden generation’ & the South African auxiliaries.

Your soccer team, now like ours, sucks. Since our own ‘golden generation’ departed a decade ago, we’ve regressed back to pathetic.

I don’t know about NZ TV sports coverage, but I can’t stand Oz commentators in rugby union, rugby league or cricket. It’s another reason why I get turned off by live sport.

I can see for myself what’s happening on the pitch. I don’t need the commentators to pretend to tell me I’m watching the greatest event. Ever!

And the Olympics movement has lost its way, obsessed with money over people. Which is an accusation you can level at pretty much all sports now. It’ all about the money, money, money.

Rattue also says NZ sports administrators are drab & boring. But samo samo in Oz. Except for Peter V’Landys, who thinks everything is about money & him.

It’s interesting that women’s sports are filling the void to compensate for poor male sports. Individual-wise, the skills of the Matildas is as good as the Socceroos, probably better.

I won’t watch women playing either rugby union or rugby league. I don’t understand why they put their bodies through that rubbish. However, it’s their choice.

But it’s a free country. At least until the Chinese Communist Party take us over, which may not be that far away.

Super Rugby is a 'disaster', Warriors a 'disgrace' and Phoenix 'hopeless': is Kiwi sport really living a 'big fat lie'?

Jimmy Woods,

According to PtheS the heads have already rolled…

AFL NEWS: Buckley responds to new Heritier Lumumba allegations, Voss responds to viral Patrick Cripps incident

Peter the scribe,

I do know what I want & this is not about me. Let’s stick to context….

Heh, heh heh…..

AFL NEWS: Buckley responds to new Heritier Lumumba allegations, Voss responds to viral Patrick Cripps incident

All Buckley did was talk about context. The fact he didn’t refute what Lumumba Said, means it all happened.
It’s incredibly poor judgement by an assistant coach to use porn to illustrate a point.
Very unprofessional & whoever it is doesn’t deserve to be protected.
Yes, Lumumba wants heads to roll & he is entitled to want that.
It appears the Collingwood culture is very sick indeed.
It seems Buckley was a poor head coach, allowing too much crap to happen on his watch.
No wonder he’s paranoid!

AFL NEWS: Buckley responds to new Heritier Lumumba allegations, Voss responds to viral Patrick Cripps incident

JGK,
Something like that!

The 60 players who explain the 1990s: rugby league's decade of expansion, civil war and vanishing clubs

JGK,

Of the 4 GFs St. George played in, only in the last one were they expected to win. And then it took a last minute penalty try to deny them.

So on balance, their fans ought to be happy. There’s about 14 clubs who didn’t appear in even one GF during the decade.

The 60 players who explain the 1990s: rugby league's decade of expansion, civil war and vanishing clubs

So a bloke playing in the national team comes from Nedlands, or Bankstown, or Toombul, or Prahran, or Glenelg, or Lindisfarne?

And of course, NSW having the biggest population, of course the kid from Randwick will go to South Brisbane; the kid from Gordon will go to Launceston; the kid from Mosman will go to Port Adelaide. And so on…

Who cares, they’re all Aussies.

Which states have been best represented in Australia's World Cup victories?

Muzzo,

Ha, ha, as soon as you start playing the man, you lose.

ANZAC XV: An idea rejected too quickly and a perfect weekend to turn selector

Muzzo,

At this point I’m reminded if you get in the gutter with a dope, you become one. Have good life!

ANZAC XV: An idea rejected too quickly and a perfect weekend to turn selector

Muzzo,

Take 3. I don’t like being m-ed. I resent it hugely.

So you’re a Roar Rookie & you’re lecturing me??????????

I’ve been on The Roar since 2007, member #19. I came in on the ground floor. In the early years, my volume of output kept the site afloat.

But nobody today would know that, or respect that.

Look me up, I’ve written more articles than I can remember on rugby union, rugby league, cricket, soccer, horse racing, Olympics, some Aussie Rules.

Whatever you think you can tell me on rugby union, or even sport in general, I could tell you back 100 times.

So off you go.

ANZAC XV: An idea rejected too quickly and a perfect weekend to turn selector

Muzzo,

Okay, “they” didnt like me calling you words beginning with ‘a’ & ‘i’.

You’re a Roar Rookie, & you’re lecturing me!!!!!!!!!! Who’d have thunk that.

Here’s a brief history lesson. You’ve been on The Roar for 5 minutes. I’ve been on the Roar on & off since 2007, member #19. I got in on the ground floor.

Look me up, I’ve written more articles than I can remember on rugby union, rugby league, cricket, soccer, Olympics, horse racing, even some Aussie Rules.

But yeah, I get it, you millennials know everything by the time you’re 10. Or you only think you do.

ANZAC XV: An idea rejected too quickly and a perfect weekend to turn selector

Muzzo,

You’re a Roar Rookie, & you’re lecturing me!!!!!!!!!!

Some history, I’ve been with Roar on & off since 2007, member #19. Even the Roar operatives would be amazed, if they could be bothered.

But like you, they’re probably fellow millennials who knew everything at age 10.

Look me up, I’ve written more articles than I can remember on many, many different sports & topics.

I could even enlighten you on the history of Australian rugby union, rugby league, cricket, soccer, horse racing, Olympics, some Aussie Rules.

But I would be wasting my time with such an arrogant, ignorant know-all.

ANZAC XV: An idea rejected too quickly and a perfect weekend to turn selector

Muzzo,
I can’t be constantly correcting your misapprehensions.
And this being an opinion site, I can come & go as often or as briefly as I please.
And say whatever takes my fancy at the time.

ANZAC XV: An idea rejected too quickly and a perfect weekend to turn selector

Muzzo,
Now where did I say I would prefer to watch ‘mungo ball’, which I abhor as much as the current rugbore.
If you’re looking for an argument, or even a polite discussion, you’re talking to the wrong bloke. Neither code rates with me anymore.

ANZAC XV: An idea rejected too quickly and a perfect weekend to turn selector

The 1996 Norman Masters meltdown could not have happened to a nicer d-head.

Always a polarising figure: ESPN Shark doco highlights Norman’s complex contradictions

Jim,

You’re a legend rugby writer, but who cares about rugby anymore, except the rusted-on diehards, or perhaps the delusional dreamers, or both?

NZ is so good at rugby or Oz is so bad at rugby, or both, that the game is dying in Oz. Constantly losing 80% plus tests to NZ has crushed our confidence & desire to play rugby.

And why would you want to reprise the ANZAC concept whereby, if chosen on merit, the Aussies would struggle to own any more than 3-4 starting positions as a maximum.

ANZAC XV: An idea rejected too quickly and a perfect weekend to turn selector

Randy – same reply as to Brainstrust.

'They tried and failed': Can Macarthur survive?

An irony of modern sport is that exploration boundaries have long ceased many decades ago. Trying to grow the game in the current environment is fraught with failure.
Melbourne Storm has been hugely successful since it’s inauguration in 1998, but it piggy-back off a small but solid & vibrant rugby community existence. Winning skipper Glenn Lazarus even acknowledged this after the Storm won its first grand final in 1999.
Attempts to kickstart teams in Perth & Adelaide, where small but sound rugby communities exist, might be a bridge too far. The Pacific Islanders can also seamlessly move between union & league, their physiques built almost by decree for both rugby codes.
But it must be acknowledged their league success is due to a long, long tradition of rugby union existing in the islands.
Why would you want to break into the US market, apart from the dream of making trillions? But it is only a dream. The US is a basket case country. Apart from them defending us from the baddies in our time of need, we don’t ever want to get too close to them.
Most everyone is so obsessed with their personal freedoms of expression, movement, religion & making money, that they don’t even care about their next door neighbour.
Besides, they have their NFL. They might enjoy rugby league from a curiosity point of view, but they’re hardly going to come across in to play in their thousands.
But I could be w-wr-wro, not right.
It’s the same here in Oz. There’s a lot of interest in the Super Bowl, but we need another footy code like a hole in the head. We enjoy the spectacle of the Super Bowl, especially the non-match entertainment, but then we go back to following our own 4 codes of footy.
The NRL would be better advised throwing their money at further developing local comps.

The field of dreams: Rugby league and the United States of America

Thanks Braintrust,

Sometimes you need to know when I’m being sarcastic & cynical, as I’m good at both!

In any case, my simple philosophy on NZ teams in Oz comps is, either 2 teams or none. The reason being to prevent the one team being a default national team.

Neither NRL or A-league deserve a 2nd NZ team result-wise, but in terms of effectively growing the game in NZ, it’s essential. Ditto NBL.

Netball has separated which I think is a good move. The NZ netball association can survive on their own, as do their rugby & cricket comps. But league & soccer are a problem.

Of course, we have this Super Rugby Pacific which frankly, is a nonsense in my opinion, & won’t last. It’s one thing for the Wallabies to be flogged by the All Blacks annually, but we don’t need our major provinces experiencing the same fate.

As I’ve noted elsewhere, Canberra should be first cab off the rank. They have the women’s team & also the infrastructure.

'They tried and failed': Can Macarthur survive?

Red Harry,

Yes, all correct. It was a brief hiccup for Brothers, the self-titled ‘Filth’.

Between 1971-84, when one or both the McLean brothers, Jeff & Paul, & Tony Shaw & Brendan Moon, were mostly present, they won 10 premierships, including 5 in a row 1980-84.

Four other clubs won once each – GPS, Teachers-Norths, Wests & university.

Mark Loane: A man of two diverse worlds

Last minute penalty in 200th minute, I believe.

Mark Loane: A man of two diverse worlds

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