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“….but this won’t prove anything as far as the popularity of ss goes.”

Agreed – not unless SR is scrapped, and players turn out for their Clubs week-in, week-out like most of Europe (some are regional, which works well having smaller franchises vs bigger clubs).

Brumbies beat Waratahs in monsoonal conditions as injury toll goes from bad to worse

“I believe some of the laws have been in trial mode during the U20s”

I saw the 22 ‘mark’ from a restart used a couple of times – this seemed to work, as the next couple of restarts went shorter. Not sure of any the other trial laws in use.

The JWBs took excellent advantage when the JABs went down to 14 men in the 2nd half – then in the last 20 mins the JWBs BackRow went to sleep / invisible, and the JABs took control – openside and blindside were completely outplayed sadly.

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“Nothing to do with SR vs club rugby.”

We’ll find out soon as they are playing a Shute Shield game at SFS in the coming weeks.

Brumbies beat Waratahs in monsoonal conditions as injury toll goes from bad to worse

“just don’t get how the low crowd attendance justifies such huge wages.”

Waratahs vs Brumbies attendance around 12,500 – very poor. A lot of people don’t care about ‘State’ Rugby that gets played week in week out. Club Rugby is where the fierce competition lies, then play State Rugby as a side show (Origin style).

Brumbies beat Waratahs in monsoonal conditions as injury toll goes from bad to worse

“Tupou off fast. I guess Pone as a Tah will be a short stint.”

Pone stint might not even start – could be back on a plane tonight, to the prevent the chance of injury for Waratahs.

'Perhaps it's surgery': Reds win ugly over Rebels to keep top four hopes alive as big-name Wallabies forced off

“But if Wilson is out, that’s a BIG loss.”

Very unfortunate for H Wilson – saw it happen, looked innocuous but he winced big time then played bravely on for a few minutes.

'Perhaps it's surgery': Reds win ugly over Rebels to keep top four hopes alive as big-name Wallabies forced off

“If I was the Rebels I’d be withdrawing Pone tonight.”

The way front row get injured for the Waratahs, I tend to agree with you – back to Melbourne right now for Pone!

'Perhaps it's surgery': Reds win ugly over Rebels to keep top four hopes alive as big-name Wallabies forced off

“…..didn’t see any coverage over here in UK”

Same here – but VPN and Stan Sport; watched the replays the next day.

'Everyone was dogs': Junior Wallabies roll up their sleeves to beat Springboks in TRC as rising fullback scores twice

My personal view is that Country Representation [from JWBs/U20s] should rank higher than it does with RA, as it is a genuine representative pathway – sorry to go back to Northern Hemisphere [NH] but the English Clubs recognise U20 level, and [mostly] release all requested players when the RFU select them for U20s – exeptions are for those [very few] U20 players who are already regular 1st team with their Club with key games that clash.

Most of those U20s players are in Club Acadmies in England – and that brings me to a slightly different point that with England having 10 [Club] Acadamies, there is a lot more U20 talent on display for England U20s to look at and evaluate.

In Australia there are 5 Academies affiliated with the 5 SR Franchises, and the NSW version is overloaded with players who will never make it professionally but it looks good on the players’ CVs for City employment [CV++ they call it]. This blocks many better players [in NSW] who don’t have access to the Crony pathways environment.

'Everyone was dogs': Junior Wallabies roll up their sleeves to beat Springboks in TRC as rising fullback scores twice

“then why accept being named if you’re not already released by the club.”

I think the players are named by JWBs and then SR Franchises decide whether to release – clearly JWBs should speak to SR 1st, but that seems too sensible. So, in that context I don’t think the players can accept or not, as they don’t know in advance.

These are only my thoughts not perhaps the reality.

'Everyone was dogs': Junior Wallabies roll up their sleeves to beat Springboks in TRC as rising fullback scores twice

“….would fill out that team as well and HMP and Jorgensen of course .”

Sadly Jorgensen out for a couple of months, maybe more – a serious tear of his hamstring – from those involved at the Randwick game he was injured in.

I made a comment before, that I believe he is still growing, and hence the extra stress that SR places on him is detrimental to his development – I know he was injured in a Shute Shield game, but the wear and tear is incremental. The worse case scenario is that his body may not be up to SR – I would prefer to think that he just needs to finish growing.

'Everyone was dogs': Junior Wallabies roll up their sleeves to beat Springboks in TRC as rising fullback scores twice

“It’s BS really if you’re saying club ahead of country.”
Not dissimilar to NH – the Clubs own the players not the country – the exceptions are for Full Internationals.
So U20s, U19s, Australia A etc. Have no rights to players unless their franchise releases them – same as Aussie 7s – they have no rights to contracted SR players, unless SR releases them.
I am not saying this is right, just saying the way it is – if the players were centrally contracted and fully paid for by RA, it would be a different story. Sadly WB and JWB are at the opposite ends of the spectrum – SR sits way higher (for RA) than JWB.

'Everyone was dogs': Junior Wallabies roll up their sleeves to beat Springboks in TRC as rising fullback scores twice

“…how the f did we lose to Argentina? Actually wtf?”
Two contributing factors:
1. Terrible weather (non-stop rain) but same for both sides and ARG handled it way better.
2. Our BackRow is weak (run-on and bench) – #6s too small, and #7s lack tackling mongrel and pilfering ability.
JWBs coach simply selected the wrong players – he needs to get onto his laptop and start watching the Colts Rugby around the traps; there are better #6s and #7s out there – they may not be in the flawed academies (but that is another subject).
This result was an improvement with a much better front five performance, and backline power and pace (still too much dropped ball). The Boks were also down to 14 players after 19 mins (red card) and down to 13 last 10 mins with a yellow card.

'Everyone was dogs': Junior Wallabies roll up their sleeves to beat Springboks in TRC as rising fullback scores twice

“6.5 Gamble is not a link man has no passing skills and is slow around the ground and Swinton is a 5.5.”

With you on these – I put Gamble at 6.25 and Swinton at 5.75, so same total, but still a number short at the breakdown. Waratahs need to recruit a proper #7 – has been a problem for them all season (not forgetting the 10 front row they have lost!).

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JWBs front five turned up to that game – backs showed pace and power, but dropped a fair amount of ball – but it was slippery / bar of soap type stuff.

BackRow is the problem – out muscled.

'Everyone was dogs': Junior Wallabies roll up their sleeves to beat Springboks in TRC as rising fullback scores twice

‘junior Boks were down to 14 players for most of the match.”

Down to 14 for 60 mins with Maqebuia red carded on 19 mins, so most of the match is fair. Brain freeze in that ruck charge to the head on JWB 2nd row.

In fact down to 13 for the last 10 mins also.

'Everyone was dogs': Junior Wallabies roll up their sleeves to beat Springboks in TRC as rising fullback scores twice

“#6 to a certain extent” – I cheekily call Swinton a 5.75; almost there as #6 imo. Just like I characterise Gamble as a 6.25 (a long way from #7). I am a Waratahs supporter, but I try and look objectively, which is not always easy – I agree with previous comments that the breakdown is critical with the current rules.

Five things: The Reds have flipped the script - and it promises to be rewarded at the Wallabies selection table

“I’m surprised you didn’t have a couple of the U20’s in the side.”

Good point and certainly tangential – but the JWBs/U20s squad selections are puzzling – hopefully they completely review and re-select the upcoming World Squad based on current form rather than past form at school.

Five things: The Reds have flipped the script - and it promises to be rewarded at the Wallabies selection table

“McReight and Wright do probably better than any other player……Unglamorous, hugely draining work that never makes a highlight reel.”
Couldn’t agree more – don’t care what Club/State they play for – we need breakdown specialists. It is the way the game is played with the current rules, and those two are excellent proponents of that art/skill.

Five things: The Reds have flipped the script - and it promises to be rewarded at the Wallabies selection table

“To beat the good teams we need breakdown specialists.”

Agreed – Reds and Brumbies have those specialist players (at #7 and #6 to a certain extent), Waratahs do not.

Five things: The Reds have flipped the script - and it promises to be rewarded at the Wallabies selection table

“Fingers crossed Coach Joe will look to brains over Braun too.”

Agreed brains and effort – as the saying goes: “hard work beats talent, when talent doesn’t work hard”.

Five things: The Reds have flipped the script - and it promises to be rewarded at the Wallabies selection table

“…Kiss has he talks about the need to dominate the ruck zone to ensure his team gets quick ball”

The Reds get it, the Brumbies get it – quick ball, quick ball, rinse and repeat. Waratahs disagree (at least play like they disagree). All in the BackRow balance – if you play a #5.75 and a #6.25 (Waratahs style at blindside and openside) then you are effectively missing a player at the breakdown.

Five things: The Reds have flipped the script - and it promises to be rewarded at the Wallabies selection table

“Can they just play a longer season next year. With 11 teams”

Agreed – home and away. Longer season, more gate receipts, more content for broadcasters.

Five things: The Reds have flipped the script - and it promises to be rewarded at the Wallabies selection table

The Waratahs were damn lucky they didn’t injure that young Barrett lad when they threw him in at prop a few weeks ago against the Rebels – forget whether he performed good/bad/indifferent; he was playing 2nd Grade Shute Shield (which is fine) and now JWBs – we have to manage these young lads and the stress on their growing bodies.

Jorgo injury adds to Tahs' pain as DC forced to turn to club land to cover FOURTH season-ending hooker blow

“Young Max is proving to be another injury prone kid elevated to the big time (and money) way too early !”

NSWRU and RA panicked – they got bullied by his agent, and ultimately let Jorgensen down….”too much too young” as the Specials said.

Jorgo injury adds to Tahs' pain as DC forced to turn to club land to cover FOURTH season-ending hooker blow

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