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be shattered if thats the case, been looking forward to it all week

What is the AFL's greatest modern dynasty?

maybe if mcleod was a bit better he wouldve dragged his team mates into another 3 grannies . just saying 😛

What is the AFL's greatest modern dynasty?

no doubt dusty casts a huge shadow, & although the tiges have won tough games without him, the fact that he has rarely missed games makes it hard to gauge how we go without him, obviously u would rather have one of the greatest finals performers playing….. re ’18, do u mean he was off for the prelim or that year ? he was obviously badly hampered in the prelim but the pies were magnificent that night & reckon tiges had tapered off on their earlier season form, astbury reportedly was crook too, combine that with cox having one of his rare moments where he actually played well, it could be said we did well to get as close as we did…… re defeating premiers from the previous 2 season fail to see any relevance in that, hardly the tiges fault the doggies, hawks & wc werent good enough to make the granny in the years following their flags ….. same for hawks, not their fault as to who their opponents were, supposedly the 2 best teams make the granny so cant see how that devalues a flag win just cause the opponent is from interstate

What is the AFL's greatest modern dynasty?

yeah think its a few years off, dont know if its feasible but for a team thats as successful as they are would be nice if they got it up to 60k, pretty sure they would have no probs filling it esp against the better teams, that would give them serious ammo in their battle for home finals

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

no i dont discount it, my opinion is the best teams find a way, def cant agree cats were superior as a team (ladder position notwithstanding), the cats arent that bad at the mcg (sure they prob prefer scat park), but they were beaten pretty convincingly in the end by the tiges, the cats had no probs with the ‘g’ when belting the swannies the next wek, but adelaide then hammering them prob told the tale of where they were at….. mate i cant be bothered debating the rights or wrongs of the afl’s various machinations including denying cats home finals, in the end its just a heap of electrons burnt in vain with no happy ending

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

i was lucky enough as a young fellah to go to a lot of the old suburban grounds, but guess we just have to accept with the growing professionalism of the comp they werent quite up to scratch, & would cost an absolute mozza to get to the standard the event goers expect these days. back to our earlier discussion its a shame scat park wasnt upgraded to accomodate more people when they did all that work 10 odd years ago, been there once to watch my daughter play in the womens footy, beautiful ground

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

look obviously im not making myself very clear, but maybe rather than telling me im saying things like geelong should build a ground bigger than the ‘g’ or force cats to play fulltime in melb, maybe cut n paste it from my posts cause im pretty sure i never said that… regardless im not looking for an argument, thought we were having a footy convo …. im trying to respond to your question why the cats had failed to make the granny since ’11, & offered the opinion that perhaps their strong record at scat park helps them finish fairly high after the h/a season, the fact that they dont then get to play finals at scat park then takes away that home ground advantage, could be part of the reason they havent done that well come finals (right or wrong, fair or not, its not what i was discussing). that said, dont think they have been quite the same calibre as those great teams from ’07 – ’11

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

mate u keep putting words in my mouth, i never said anything about building scat park bigger than the ‘g’, never said stop cats playing at geelong, just pointed a few things out which seemed to lead u to make some leaps of logic ….. there is no fairness & little logic re these points u bring up, as i said, its been debated to death… all i said is some sides finish higher due to softer draws & more pronounced home ground advantages, but get exposed come finals as maybe not as strong as their ladder position at h/a seasons end mightve suggested

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

if youre looking for integrity from the afl theres lot more to address than the cats playing finals at scat park …. where do i say anything about a stadium bigger than the ‘g’ ? maybe just a few more seats so some opposition supporters can get in too, its not even 40k capacity, whilst at it maybe widen the ground a fraction … why was it more logical to shut suburban grounds in melb but not geelong ?

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

im not accepting anything, just pointing out some things i see as pretty obvious

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

if scat park held a decent crowd they would have a better case, the cats were lucky to hold onto it when the vfl closed a lot of the suburban grounds, im sure a lot of the melb clubs would have preferred to hang onto their home grounds, anyway its a dead horse & i cant be bothered flogging it any further

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

thats one of the worms in the can i was referring to, been done to death …. was talking about in terms of where teams finish h/a … maybe some teams finish higher at least in part due to factors that dont apply come finals, hence they dont perform as well as expected come finals

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

well the author is a weagles man, a lot of them seem to think the sun shines out of their players rear entrances, hence he rates old man rance (who was a fair player for wc must be said) higher than his son who has been rated by many as one of the best defenders of his time, & he also rates the ’05-6 swannies as much inferior to the west co*ke weagles at the time. not sure if his article isnt just a total p*iss take tbh

Scrubs over stars

man im hanging for it, whats going on jay , youve had almost a week !!

Scrubs over stars

pretty sure top spot was more valuable back in the days of final 4 & 5, but we are never gunna go back there

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

not trying to be cute micko, theres no denying that some clubs have a greater home ground advantage than others, eg cats are very dominant down in scat park with its unique dimensions (they also get to train on their ground unlike ‘g’ based clubs), eagles grow a leg at home, now ive started on that can of worms there are lots of other elements in the comp that give teams a leg up, not the least being the granny normally being at the ‘g’, this has all been flogged to death multiple times on roar without any crystal clarity being arrived at but its def a factor in determining where teams finish the h/a season

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

seeing we have a compromised draw, where some teams have a tougher run than others & also some teams having greater home ground advantage the actual ladder positions at the end of the home & away arent the greatest guide as to who is the best, but finishing top 4 is a fair guide. the wheat then gets sorted from the chaff during the finals, been more than once that some high finishing sides go out in straight sets or lose the prelim, which is a pretty fair indicator of where that side was really at. the best teams find a way, look at brissy ’03, hawks ’15 & tiges ’20, none of them finished h/a on top & they were all able to come back from a loss during the finals & win the flag

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

once again, inject some logic & fact into the argument & the sage from the west disappears

Brisbane, Geelong, Hawthorn or Richmond: Which dynasty has been the best?

agree with u liam that like the brownlow, the norm smith (& just about every other award) are awarded on the opinions of the people asked to vote on it, but how else should the verdict as to who wins the award be decided ? some algorithm using stats ?……. disagree on your take that its decreasing in relevance, relevance to whom do u reckon ? ………to me the norm at least is decided by people who arent flat out umpiring the game (like the brownlow), & at least 2 of the judges this year in leigh matthews & malcolm blight are greats of the game (perhaps should be all ex players on the panel rather than journos)…… no question being a ‘star’ helps attract votes but whilst its reasonable to say there were other players who could easily have won in ’17 & ’19, i dont think dusty getting it those times is even close to a shocker, & this year was pretty clear cut

The inevitable truth: No-one had a chance against Dustin Martin

looks like theyre going all out for the flag in the next year or 2, u would reckon after that a lot of their top players eg selwood, hawkins, danger etc would be close to if not finished

Isaac Smith announces shock move to Geelong

been stated before, theyre certainly loading up on the old blokes … was surprised when they went for jenkins last year, though maybe he was insurance for hawkins

Isaac Smith announces shock move to Geelong

u may consider it baiting don , but im asking how playing 9 games away from home in ’19 is, to use your words “every”, or even “almost every game at home” ? obviously u use a different dictionary over there. yeah we played 13 at the ‘g’, not our fault some of our opponents are based there too …… nowhere near as good a home ground advantage as optus oval anyway

Brisbane, Geelong, Hawthorn or Richmond: Which dynasty has been the best?

like the cats of ’11, too old, too slow, but will they be too good ?

Isaac Smith announces shock move to Geelong

im not after your agreement or your permission to like dusty (thanks for clearing that up for me, was really causing me anxiety), just engaging in a bit of banter (u know, like we do here on roar at times) & pulling u up where post absolute fabrications when i can be bothered (that one gets exhausting after a while, lotta work needs doing)

Brisbane, Geelong, Hawthorn or Richmond: Which dynasty has been the best?

reckon stats arent the be all end all, some blokes get a lot more touches cause of how their team plays, all those side to side kicks in the backline arent really doing much. blokes like tom mitchell at hawthorn get heaps but do they really help the team win ? one stat that i like is possessions per goal, that tells u whats really going on. reckon the team u blokes had early 90’s was insanely strong, it was almost a state team, then that ’05-’06 had some serious talent, esp in the middle. reckon your present team wants to do something soon, nic nat, hurn, jk, mcgovern, shui are great players but the clock is ticking, hard to replace blokes of that calibre

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival