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Agree well said.
I’ll also add to some comments here, laughable how some assume her rich dad will just fund her whole life. How do we know exactly how rich he is? He has other children and his own costs for him and his wife. Who says he is gonna simply just subsidise his adult daughter phoebe to live the high life? Rich people have there own costs, they can’t always afford to subsidise adult children . Phoebe has complained in media before about having financial struggles.
'Toxic': The way women are treated in rugby league must change
So they like big strong alpha male boofheads you saying not beta males. So these women are superficial you are saying? And money and big strong boofhead masculinity appeals to the women who date these nrl players, not nice guy beta males?
'Toxic': The way women are treated in rugby league must change
Maybe Sam was the smart one you don’t give him enough credit. He is an elite athlete highly competitive individual, who has total confidence in being violent to others Eg on the field. And he dominated the relationship, maybe he was the smarter more dominant personality not Phoebe. Otherwise she wouldn’t have tolerated the awful NRL culture. Yet she did . She can’t have been that bright to just sit back for so many many years.
'Toxic': The way women are treated in rugby league must change
NRL culture to women is sexist and toxic, but the question that does my head in is this. Why do so many attractive young women date NRL players when they know the player is most likely gonna be sexist and degrading to em, as he works in an industry or organisation where sexism is normalised and rampant? I don’t get these women who choose to date NRL players when they know how bad they treat women.
'Toxic': The way women are treated in rugby league must change
Should we scrap full time SR teams/give up on a semi pro NRC.
And just have high performance state leagues in every state Eg Shute Shield 1st grade type comps.. And build relations with Japan and European clubs, and the best guys from these state leagues go and play in Europe$$(hence these star players then are picked for the wallabies). Scrap big central RA wallaby contracts/play less wallaby tests each yr. You might say you will lose revenue , but hello your operating costs are much lower(RA operating costs). And you still make money from wallaby World Cup tv rights etc .
So yeah I’m basically saying Australia rugby model should be similar to like say Fiji… Fiji best all in Europe and there best side more or less only turns up at the World Cup(once every four yrs). But Fiji has low operating costs as they don’t have expensive development leagues or big central contracts for their best players…
Retract or expand: Where to for rugby in Australia?
Exactly micko. The a league accepts its place on the food chain, it’s not trying to be the EPL. It’s accepts its a development league for Europe. Oz rugby is trying to compete with Europe by putting up restraints about wallaby selection. There would be an outrage in soccer if Socceroos didn’t pick Harry Kewell or Tim Cahill types for world cups cos they chose to play in Europe. Socceroos also don’t punish European stars who don’t turn up for Asian qualifiers against weak nations like Nepal. Boomers don’t punish nba Aussies who only turn up for the Olympics. And your right , I’m sick of having to help kiwi interests by keeping our super rugby sides as strong as possible to help kiwi super rugby teams get tv revenue . I’d prefer a weaker development comp that’s oz focused an build relations with European club rugby investors Eg development pathways .
Why changing Giteau Law would be hazardous to Australian rugby
Nbl is booming now . Private owner of comp, it’s thriving
Why changing Giteau Law would be hazardous to Australian rugby
3 team model in 2021 modern times would be a disaster.. We won 1999 World Cup with just 3 sides in a non social media era. A time when rugby had just gone pro etc. To revert back to just 3 provinces would be hopelessly backwards. And cohesion wouldn’t be developed , if no juniors are playing rugby. Public relations PR , cricket basketball soccer are all national sports as is water polo field hockey volleyball etc . Juniors wanna be part of a national team that the whole nation plays in modern times.
How awful image on social media if Wallabies are only picked from NSW/QLD/ACT… We need a full time super rugby comp offering 5 sides maybe even 6 or 7 one day. Or a semi pro Currie cup style national comp filtering talent for European clubs etc.
Going back to 3 would be a disaster for Oz rugby. Totally inaccurate to say coz 3 teams worked in 1990’s, it will work in 2021 and beyond Eg different times and era
Retract or expand: Where to for rugby in Australia?
Super rugby isn’t marketable. It’s like Sheffield shield cricket , it’s just an expensive development comp wallaby trial . Unlike Europe where it’s club glory focused not a national team interest trial
Why changing Giteau Law would be hazardous to Australian rugby
Players should be allowed to have both at same time Eg be spoilt on big European money and only have to give back to Australian rugby at the World Cup, and ignore the wallabies and give nothing back the rest of the time . Basically RA are saying piru , you can’t commit adultery to Oz rugby (turn up for the World Cup the pinnacle , then sneak off the rest of the time on big European money and give nothing back to Oz rugby until next World Cup).
Why changing Giteau Law would be hazardous to Australian rugby
Piru,
It is unreasonable . RA are saying you can’t be on big money in Europe and only contribute once every four yrs(the World Cup). RA are saying you have to contribute not just at the glory World Cup , but actually give something back to Oz rugby beyond the. Glamour of the World Cup Eg the grind of super rugby and grinding spring tours playing Italy and Scotland and the grind of the RC Eg vs Argentina and Boks.
They are saying to star players you can’t have ya cake and eat it to and only turn up at the World Cup coz that suits you(star aussies), they are making Aussie players give more than just World Cup and are using the World Cup carrot to hold players to random as opposed to saying “you can’t play local tests if you don’t play in Oz . But we Will let you turn up for World Cup bledisloe lions series if you want(the marquee stuff). They are denying the goodies glamour test matches and saying you gotta turn up to the non glamour tests and stay local and give to super rugby.
Why changing Giteau Law would be hazardous to Australian rugby
Case by case gets really murky and vague .
Why changing Giteau Law would be hazardous to Australian rugby
Castle? You must be joking lol
Why changing Giteau Law would be hazardous to Australian rugby
Bad luck. That’s pro sport, you pick your best side . Stuff like dreams being crushed happens everyday in sport. Elite sport isn’t a participation model industry , it’s only about winning. No cry babies , sport only cares about winning . You pick your best side possible , not lose with loyal locals who are not money hungry unlike some of our European Aussie stars who only wanna help the wallabies when it suits them Eg World Cup .
Why changing Giteau Law would be hazardous to Australian rugby
We just got a bronze medal at Olympics with all our boomers scattered everywhere. And hardly playing together often. The boomers Olympic training camp and warm up games was enough to develop gold cohesion
Why changing Giteau Law would be hazardous to Australian rugby
So you basically have admitted RA holds players to ransom as they have one power play Aussie players want Eg the chance to play at the World Cup. And youve admitted star players don’t care about super rugby or RC tests vs Argentina or spring tour tests vs Italy. And all stars care about are big European contracts and the World Cup.
Your model, basically isn’t letting star players have their cake and eat it to Eg big Europe contract and only turn up for the wallabies at the World Cup(which is what they want, the best of both worlds , europe$ and playing in a World Cup). RA are using the World Cup as a ransom bargaining power carrot as they know players will sometimes stay for less money to play in a World Cup
Why changing Giteau Law would be hazardous to Australian rugby
Wrong. It would be good. RA needs to move away from centralist model of ten to 12 wallaby tests per yr/financing SR… We need to move to a soccer style model Eg Wallaby tests only be like world cups/bledisloes/Lions etc. And we set up a national semi pro development comp to develop players for European clubs. No more big central contracts.. RA should just focus on grassroots and marquee wallaby tests. We need to move to basketball and soccer model Eg Boomers best only turn up for Olympics and basketball World Cup.
This centralist wallaby model is failing even if RA get private equity. OZ rugby should open the floodgates and build relations with European clubs. And like A-League soccer, become an exporter of talent to Europe. Less wallaby tests each yr Eg no one cares about the RC tests vs pumas or meaningless spring tour games vs Scotland or Italy , or playing a 3 test series vs France’s B team.
Why changing Giteau Law would be hazardous to Australian rugby
Alan Langer 2001 was picked from England out of nowhere..
International rugby league a priority right now? Are you joking?
Wallabies are touring England at same time as league World Cup was planned to be held, so do you think that’s wrong to that wallabies are touring.
RL doesn’t need nrl or Aussies or kiwis to be sustainable. Boot them from the IRL, the IRL can put two new teams in at the World Cup to round up 16. RL doesn’t need Aussies or kiwis to thrive. Good riddance to Aussies and kiwis if need be, the sport is bigger than Australia-NRL.
The nrl isn’t bigger than the sport of RL. It shouldn’t dictate terms to the IRL.
International rugby league a priority right now? Are you joking?
You don’t get it. I’m saying a new comp be called nrc replacing the name super rugby and Oz teams only
The two lingering questions from an incredible weekend of Super Rugby finals
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The two lingering questions from an incredible weekend of Super Rugby finals
So what do you think is fairest schedule that will actually make RA a profit to pay the marquee money hungry wallabies? Money from good timeslots that help the grassroots and club land volunteers and coaches and players .
The two lingering questions from an incredible weekend of Super Rugby finals
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'Toxic': The way women are treated in rugby league must change