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See Jamieson 2021 v Bangladesh. Actually wait, see Ponting 2008 v India.

'Complete control': Moises rejects fuss over 'embarrassing oversight', 'flat out wrong' BBL catch controversy

Actually I can find an earlier example – see Ponting vs India at SCG 2008. Ponting might not have known the law but Indian media were all over it.

'Complete control': Moises rejects fuss over 'embarrassing oversight', 'flat out wrong' BBL catch controversy

And then had the gall to hide behind the soft signal after the fact.

'Complete control': Moises rejects fuss over 'embarrassing oversight', 'flat out wrong' BBL catch controversy

Wrong. See Jamieson v Bangladesh in early 2021.

'Complete control': Moises rejects fuss over 'embarrassing oversight', 'flat out wrong' BBL catch controversy

Wrong – see Jamieson vs Bangladesh in early 2021. If this had always been a catch, diving keepers/fielders would just point the ball into the ground instead of risking it bobbling out when the hand/arm hits the ground.

'Complete control': Moises rejects fuss over 'embarrassing oversight', 'flat out wrong' BBL catch controversy

Not just that. He’s an average fielder (someone will have to go into the slips with Warner out). I’d also like to see his numbers away from Junction Oval. I personally don’t have him in the top 3 candidates.

Mitch Marsh is thriving as a Test No.6 - the selectors must leave him there

Taylor averaged 19 across 11 tests, where he went 21 innings without a 50. He was captain and extremely safe at 1st slip, so he earned more rope, but he would have been dropped if that drought lasted one more innings. After that, he averaged 47 in his last 23 tests. He made 4 in 4 innings immediately following his drought-breaking century so there’s definitely a longer sub-30 streak in there.

COMMENT: David Warner defied his critics - but he didn't prove them wrong

Except Walters got dropped before the 1981 Ashes despite decent form at home.

COMMENT: David Warner defied his critics - but he didn't prove them wrong

What intangibles? Fielding? Contenders have that covered, and he dropped a sitter at The Oval that came close to costing them the match. That he’s a good team bloke? If that’s the case, it’s the same sort of insular attitude that caught up with them at Cape Town.

‘No better way to silence them’: Warner fires back at critics with blistering ton as Aussies pile on misery to Pakistan

Exactly what I’m suggesting. Happens with age. Was only a few times early, and he got through.

COMMENT: David Warner defied his critics - but he didn't prove them wrong

Fair enough. I’m not asking for him to apologise. The selectors do what they do, and that’s where my main criticism lies, but if he puts his hand up to be picked in those conditions, he has to deal with the legacy issues that come with the results.

COMMENT: David Warner defied his critics - but he didn't prove them wrong

He could have won, by retiring from Tests before the India tour.

COMMENT: David Warner defied his critics - but he didn't prove them wrong

Did you miss his manager’s words on the Shield contenders?

COMMENT: David Warner defied his critics - but he didn't prove them wrong

Pot shot…

COMMENT: David Warner defied his critics - but he didn't prove them wrong

I’ve found a lot of people who jump to his defence cite strike rate as a defining X-factor. Certainly has its moments, but from an inconsistent opener, a good strike rate in Tests can simply expose the middle order to friendlier bowling conditions on a regular basis.

‘No better way to silence them’: Warner fires back at critics with blistering ton as Aussies pile on misery to Pakistan

Yes, but we knew Warner would be bang average at best and wouldn’t have improved outcomes.

‘No better way to silence them’: Warner fires back at critics with blistering ton as Aussies pile on misery to Pakistan

On paper. In reality they were battered and erratic, as communicated by their bowling coach. Nortje the one exception, but it’s easier to survive one good bowler as you don’t get as much respite with multiple.

‘No better way to silence them’: Warner fires back at critics with blistering ton as Aussies pile on misery to Pakistan

I meant specifically yesterday.

COMMENT: David Warner defied his critics - but he didn't prove them wrong

Did you read the article? You can try mine on the same subject if you like. Point is he’s had a free ride in tougher conditions, and should be stepping aside for the future while the time is right.

COMMENT: David Warner defied his critics - but he didn't prove them wrong

A few poor shots in there, possibly brought on by being in such a dominant position and wanting to get on with it. Bowling for the most part was utter tripe. Could just as easily counter that Warner was lucky to escape with a dodgy technique early in his innings. Many a touring batter with a 45 degree waft has succumbed to the Perth bounce, but Warner was fortunate to play and miss or nick it over the cordon.

COMMENT: David Warner defied his critics - but he didn't prove them wrong

Did you miss his umpire carry on in the World Cup? His inner sanctum openly potting his competitors?

COMMENT: David Warner defied his critics - but he didn't prove them wrong

Yes, he brought that on himself. I went with a similar ‘damned if he does’ angle below, where I predicted he would make runs:

Are selectors endangering Australia’s future by putting Dave Warner’s personal aspirations ahead of team legacy?

I’ve written in the past that our modern day reluctance to implement horses for courses for batters (Travis Head the recent bizarre and hypocritical exception) has gifted him permanence, so at least his impending retirement will finally snap that pattern.

COMMENT: David Warner defied his critics - but he didn't prove them wrong

“I expect Warner to go out on a high against an opponent in Pakistan who he has domineered at home”. You’ve completely missed the point.

Are selectors endangering Australia's future by putting Dave Warner’s personal aspirations ahead of team legacy?

Retained the Ashes. Might have won them with an opener who could make runs in England (same goes for 2019). Averaged 8.66 in his preferred position in the two tests we lost in India before going home, while Renshaw – who outperformed him on the previous tour – got hauled over the coals for failing in the middle order. Our success was in spite of him, not because of him.

‘No better way to silence them’: Warner fires back at critics with blistering ton as Aussies pile on misery to Pakistan

94/95

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