Who actually wants to win the NAB Cup?
By Ben Somerford, 12 Feb 2010 Ben Somerford is a Roar Expert
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Chris Bryan of Collingwood evades Bachar Houli of Essendon during the NAB Cup Match between the Collingwood Magpies and the Essendon Bombers at the Docklands Stadium. Slattery Images
The response to my pre-season article on Wednesday said it all. AFL fans really aren’t that bothered by the NAB Cup, and it is an attitude brought on by clubs not necessarily wanting to win the cup.
The AFL’s annual trial rules certainly don’t help, but the differing attitude of clubs towards the NAB Cup (which is totally understandable prior to the season proper) means fans shouldn’t read too much into pre-season results.
Adelaide coach Neil Craig summed it all up when he said, “If they’ve got any niggling injuries … they won’t play, but if it was for four points they would.” Most clubs will heed such caution, but to differing levels in pre-season.
Brisbane, for example, will head for the season proper with an extra element of caution by resting veteran duo Jonathan Brown and Simon Black in pre-season as they try to preserve the pair for Round One.
On the other hand, Craig, who won’t be resting players, did admit despite fielding the best available squad in his club’s NAB Cup opener, he would experiment with players in unfamiliar positions.
Indeed, these are the factors which show the intent of the coaching staff from respective clubs about the pre-season competition. How cautious they’ll be in selection, whether or not they’ll trial and experiment with players, or even how intense their tactical focus will be.
And, of course, the players need to be interested, too.
Nonetheless, the stances of the clubs, whichever way they may be, are fair enough, as after all the NAB Cup is just the pre-season before the real stuff kicks off in six weeks time.
But it does raise the question of who does actually want to win the 2010 NAB Cup?
Centrebet have rather predictably installed last season’s Grand Finalists Geelong and St Kilda as favourites followed by 2009 top-five clubs Adelaide and the Western Bulldogs.
But it is never so simple with the NAB Cup.
History will tell you, Hawthorn have won the most pre-season/night series premierships with nine, followed by Essendon (6) and North Melbourne (5), while the West Australian clubs along with the merged Brisbane Lions have never lifted a trophy prior to Round 1.
But to get a better idea on the current context, we need to look on a more microscopic level with the current respective coaching staff around the AFL.
Centrebet’s favourites Geelong have a good recent history in the NAB Cup, lifting it last year and in 2006, whilst making the semi-finals in 2007.
Cats coach Mark Thompson simply seems to like seeing his players go out and get some practice doing what they do best and that means they loom as big dangers.
The players will want to put behind the Mathew Stokes saga, too.
Centrebet’s other favourites St Kilda won the trophy under Ross Lyon in 2008, but were knocked out in the first-round of the NAB Cup last season. Lyon played it down when he said this week, “It’s a NAB Cup but we’ll be up and about, it should be a good test for us.”
The Saints may be without Lenny Hayes, who will have an eased workload prior to Round 1, but gun forward Nick Riewoldt should be onboard after a rare uninterrupted pre-season in an ominous sign.
On the other hand, teams like Paul Roos’s Sydney and John Worsfold’s West Coast (who played off in the 2005 and 2006 AFL Grand Finals) have incredibly both not won a NAB Cup game, with the Eagles last competitive pre-season victory coming in the rebadged Wizard Home Loans Cup back in 2005.
Indeed, their example is proof the best teams don’t always do well in pre-season.
Roos, who has never coached his side to a competitive pre-season victory, did label Sydney’s results in last year’s NAB Cup as ‘irrelevant’ although after a big off-season turnover the Swans seem to have a new attitude towards pre-season.
Melbourne coach Dean Bailey has never coached his side to a NAB Cup triumph either, but after a big pre-season and with expectant fans the Dees may want to build some momentum early this year.
Essendon coach Matthew Knights has taken the Bombers to the NAB Cup semi-finals in his two seasons in charge at Windy Hill and his youthful side could be roughies.
Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse is never one to give too much away so who knows with the Pies, while Carlton have fancied the NAB Cup in the past and the players will be keen to put behind a troublesome off-season.
Indeed, there’s differing incentives for clubs, coaches and players, and at the end of the day it makes for a very unpredictable competition.
The fans won’t read much into it all. But, on the other hand, nobody minds a bit of silverware.
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manny said | February 12th 2010 @ 3:47am | Report comment
fair call,
Most clubs dont really take the NAB CUp seriously, but things like membership drives or putting a woeful offseason of boozecruising behind them can encourage teams to WANT to win the NAB Cup. I fancy Carlton as theyve got incentive, bit of talent and theyve done it before. they won it in 2005 & 2007.
Redb said | February 12th 2010 @ 8:39am | Report comment
yeah Carlton will need to do something to boost their membership numbers given their poor image and they like to win the easy ones. Low hanging fruit and all
Gibbo said | February 12th 2010 @ 1:59pm | Report comment
do the afl need to put their hands in their pockets and put some serious cash up for the winners?
would it make a difference? probably not when they prop up struggling clubs anyhows…
Redb said | February 12th 2010 @ 2:04pm | Report comment
I thought there was a bit of prize money for the NAB Cup. I remember the Blues really needed it one year and the next, and the next….
davelee said | February 12th 2010 @ 2:04pm | Report comment
Yeh Gibbo,
I thought they ramped it up to $1m a few seasons ago, so you’d thnk teams like WB, NM, PA might fancy it, but theres been no real evident change in attitudes…. but with NABs sponsorship running out next year I doubt much will happen.
Michael C said | February 12th 2010 @ 2:12pm | Report comment
the ramping up was for one year only – I think 2008 (the 150 celebration year) – and I think it was if a club won the ‘double’ – - -so, alas, it’s still undervalued in that respect…….actually, so is the regular season premiership!!
sticky said | February 14th 2010 @ 10:41am | Report comment
NAB should give less money to the pre-season and reduce my bank fees!!
NAB Cup Not as bad a form guide as people think said | February 14th 2010 @ 9:21pm | Report comment
As was pointed out in another article about the NAB Cup – of the 20 sides to make the NAB Cup Grand Final over the past decade, 13 went on to finish in the Top 4 or play in a Preliminary Final in the same year. Not a bad strike rate at all really.
Considering one of the 7 that didn’t was Geelong in 2006 (who finished 10th) – it really should be 14/20. Considering of course that Geelong were 2004 Preliminary Finalists, cruelly denied semi-finalists in 2005, Premiers in 2007, Runners-Up in 2008 and Premiers again in 2007 – I think its fair to suggest that Geelong massively underperformed in the 2006 Regular Season – rather than their NAB Cup perfomances being unrepresentative of their talent.
As for earlier in the decade, Port Adelaide was the team that defeated Richmond in 2002 – and how did they go in the regular season? I believe they topped the ladder in 2002-2004 – so not really that bad an indicator either.
One thing I would like to know is – traditionally unsuccesful teams in the regular season over the last decade, Richmond, Melbourne, Fremantle and Western Bulldogs – 4 Teams to have only made 1 Grand Final appearance between them since the AFL began in 1990 – I believe its correct to say that none of them have won a pre-season Grand Final either.
Is it possible there’s a correlation there? Hell, the Bulldogs haven’t made a preseason Grand Final in donkey’s years – which in fact mirrors their failure in the regular season since 1961! 6 Preliminary Final defeats in a row is a terrible record on the biggest stage – maybe they should be practising a little harder in the pre-season to find out what winning really feels like.
Footbal Person said | March 3rd 2010 @ 4:24pm | Report comment
is there a trophy for that thing ?