A cycling fan’s descent into cynicism
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I must confess something. 95% of the reason why I decided to start cycling was because of Lance Armstrong. As a 16-year-old schoolboy rower, I was introduced to Lance’s story by my rowing coach.
He used his story and his various quotes as inspiration for us.
I soon became a huge fan and came to love the sport of cycling. I loved the heroes, names like: Armstrong, Merckx, Hinault, Indurain, Cancellara, Hushovd, McEwen.
I loved the villains: Pantani, Ullrich, Basso, Vinokourov. I shunned those who thought all cyclists were dopers, thinking they were bitter or had tall poppy syndrome.
But as I grew older, I read more about the history of cycling. Cheating has long been ingrained in the culture of the sport. From its infancy, the Tour de France has been riddled with it.
It began with riders jumping on trains between checkpoints in the towns and villages along the stage routes. They also threw tacks on the road to puncture their rivals’ tyres. While this doesn’t sound so bad now, back in the early twentieth century, it was a nightmare.
Eventually, riders cottoned on to the fact that if you rode half-cut on whisky, it numbed the pain sufficiently to give you a competitive advantage. Eventually, half the peloton began riding drunk.
Shortly thereafter, the craze was methamphetamine. Of course, all British cycling fans will be able to tell you how this turned out. Tom Simpson collapsed and died on the slopes of Mont Ventoux on July 13, 1967 from a mixture of dehydration and methamphetamine overdose.
Steroids took over and combined with meth and, later, cortisone, dominated for many years. Eddy Merckx, the greatest cyclist ever, was even caught and banned for taking anabolics.
In the 1990s, erythropoietin (EPO) and blood doping became vogue, propelling riders to even great levels of performance. The average speeds of races took off.
For the cycling fan who’d just had his eyes opened, I refused to accept it. How could Lance be a cheat? Or anyone who hadn’t been caught?
Surely the testers weren’t that useless or had their hands tied behind the back so completely that it was nearly impossible to catch smartly-managed riders?
So I came up with another well-established excuse: well, if everyone else was doing it, it doesn’t really matter right? Level playing field, blah, blah, blah.
For a while, I convinced myself that this was okay. I disregarded the ethicality of cheating, almost legalising it in my head. Again, I dismissed those who saw it as wrong. How could they just focus on Lance? He wasn’t the only bad egg.
But in light of the federal investigation earlier in the year and the USADA’s doping investigation, my confidence in Lance was crumbling.
And as it crumbled, so did my confidence in the athletes. How could they have pathologically lied for so long? Not just Lance but Hamilton, Landis, Basso, Ricco. The list goes on.
It was untimely that Bradley Wiggins was having the season of his life, appearing near unbeatable for much of it. I couldn’t accept it as clean.
It was not helped by the fact that I’m an Aussie and I dislike the Brits beating us in any sporting event. Neither him nor Froome’s performance seemed logical. How could they now climb with some of the best in world cycling in Evans and Nibali?
Eventually, I read Tyler Hamilton’s book, The Secret Race. Then I read Jeremy Whittle’s book, Bad Blood. And finally, David Millar’s Racing Through The Dark. And the walls I’d built up to protect me from the filthy truth came crashing down. My cynicism was complete.
Now, all I can ask is: are any of them clean?
That’s not a fair question to ask. It’s not fair for the riders who are clean. In all likelihood, Wiggins is clean. He joined Garmin-Sharp back when it was Slipstream-Chipotle and embraced their doping controls and ethics, an ethos which I believe can lead the peloton into a new era.
Cadel Evans too has been lauded for his anti-doping activism and moral stance on the matter. I know its not saying much but ex-doper Tyler Hamilton has championed Evans as a beacon of hope for cycling. I also think that not everyone on US Postal was doping.
There are always going to be guys who will resist, as David Moncoutie did at Cofidis for years, according to ex-teammate Millar.
It’s also not fair on me. How can I ask this of the sport I love? It pains me so much to think that I will never view the sport in the same way again. I was there, watching Cadel win the Tour in 2011, standing on the Place de la Concorde singing the national anthem, and have never felt more proud to be an Aussie.
It was a tremendous moment. But the events of the past six months have put a sour taste in my mouth. I can no longer trust the athletes I once held in such high esteem.
Moreover, as everyone says that cycling has moved on, that it has changed for the good, that cycling is no longer controlled by doping, I cannot accept that there has been any real progress at all. Many of the old guard of the late 90s and early 00s are still involved in one way or another.
Matt White is a perfect example, so too are Neil Stephens , Jens Voigt, Alexandre Vinokourov, Levi Leipheimer, Christian Vande Velde, David Zabriskie, Pat McQuaid and…well, how long do you want the list to be?
If the UCI appeals USADA’s case to the CAS, despite the more-than-overwhelming amount of evidence that Armstrong was part of a systematic doping culture, it will be the final straw. It will be the nail in professional cycling’s corrupt coffin. And that is not fair on the current batch of cyclists who have made it their livelihood and dream to win the world’s biggest races.
I really hope that we see resolution, that we see those who have done their best to ruin the sport in the past confess their mistakes, learn from them, help the sport rehabilitate its image and move on.
But, what frightens me most is that the Armstrong case may be just the beginning. Then I, along with the rest of the cycling fans around the world, will be left wondering how deep the rabbit hole goes.
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October 16th 2012 @ 5:28am
Jacko said | October 16th 2012 @ 5:28am | Report comment
yeh, it’s bloody awful isn’t it! his first tweet post the 1000 page report was interesting … pretty much relying on his cancer link to save his backside … clearly this continues to justify his denial.
October 16th 2012 @ 7:59am
Edsel Falconer said | October 16th 2012 @ 7:59am | Report comment
I have been an avid cyclist for 40+ years. Lemond was the only rider I could really get excited about, he exuded personality, throwing fits of joy after winning made me smile and get on my bike. The first year Lance won captivated me, but by year 4, I’d had enough….he just rode to win, with little or no true happiness emanating from him after the finish, he’d done what he needed to…end of story. Lance is a classic one eyed dude, where winning is everything, to hear that he would not shake the hand of the Leadville MTB race winner, wher he came second, just shows where his mental state around competition is at. In a way he is trapped, by himself, by the yes men around him, by the money, by his fans, and ultimately by his lies that he truly believes. I don’t put any sportsperson on a pedestal, I may admire there drive or talent, but that’s about it, as there is so much money involved no one can truly be trusted to be pure. And with that lack of trust the eyes of many fans glaze over, including me, the racing becomes predictable, and the simple, beautiful sport of cycling, where many men throw there hat into the ring to see if they have what it takes to suffer like dogs and maybe come out on top, where second, third and so on are places to be proud about, is lost. It may come back, I can see change, but money makes people do strange things!
October 16th 2012 @ 12:12pm
Kev said | October 16th 2012 @ 12:12pm | Report comment
I find it strange when LA’s fans sprout the nonsense that everyone else was on the juice therefore if Lance doped he was the best in that field. By doping you automatically void any achievements and any success you may have had during that time. Why? Because those are the rules. Plain and simple. Whether you were the best out of the bunch even without doping is irrelevant because as we’ve discovered, not every rider doped to the same extent which further invalidates that argument.
October 16th 2012 @ 1:20pm
hamleyn said | October 16th 2012 @ 1:20pm | Report comment
Kev, you’re spot on. I tried using the argument for a while. But the more I thought about it, the more I was able to poke holes in it. Even if, hypothetically, it did level the playing field, it doesn’t make doping right. It is still against the rules.
December 29th 2012 @ 11:38pm
Luke Closely said | December 29th 2012 @ 11:38pm | Report comment
In Tyler Hamiltons book it is explained how EPO did NOT level the playing field even if everybody took it. The 50% hematocrit rule distorted everything. For example if your natural level was 40 the UCI basically said you can dope yourself up to 50 and we won’t touch you. That’s a 25% increase. A guy whose natural level is 45 can ‘only’ get an 11% increase by doping up to 50. The guys who were lacking the most in this field could gain the most advantage, the naturally gifted in this area could only make smaller gains with EPO.
Also because hematocrit was not the only factor in making a great rider (power to weight ratio, training etc) a rider could have a lower natural hematocrit and still be an equally good rider as someone with a higher level. With the much larger advantage the lower level guy could gain from EPO suddenly the two neck and neck riders are poles apart over a three week race.
October 16th 2012 @ 12:15pm
Seano said | October 16th 2012 @ 12:15pm | Report comment
What happens if the UCI won’t ban lance? What I’d they say EPO is an APROVED substance? Don’t be surprised Europe an the USA version of sports admin is very different from our own.
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October 16th 2012 @ 1:26pm
hamleyn said | October 16th 2012 @ 1:26pm | Report comment
Its not the UCI’s decision. USADA have banned and stripped him. The UCI now has a period of time before they must either accept the USADA findings or appeal them to the CAS.
The UCI and WADA would never be able to approve EPO. It would be highly irresponsible of them because, if abused, it is such a dangerous drug.
October 16th 2012 @ 2:49pm
Bobo said | October 16th 2012 @ 2:49pm | Report comment
The powers that be made noises about legalising doping in the wake of the Festina affair. In the wake of Festina, our friend Samaranch, the Emperor Palpatine of the sporting world, said the following:
“As it stands, all those substances prohibited by the medical commission of the International Olympic Committee are considered as doping substances. For me, this is not sufficient. Drug taking is anything which firstly damages the health of the sportsman and, secondly, artificially improves his performance. If something produces just the second effect, then for me it’s not drug-taking. If it produces the first, then yes. The list of products must be reduced drastically. Anything that doesn’t adversely affect the health of the athlete, for me isn’t doping.”
Tell that to those who dropped dead from EPO use. Tell that to the riders poisoned by a bad blood bag. Hamleyn is right – this is dangerous stuff.
Reading the Cyclingnews archives from 1998 was interesting. Neil Stephens was mentioned on the same day:
“Stephens has now been forced to admit that the evidence presented to the investigating police in Lyon during the enquiry into Festina’s systematic drug taking, shows clearly that he has been using EPO. He now faces a minimum 6 months ban for cheating. He will begin the suspension (if it is imposed) from the time he made the confession to police (July 22). For Australian cycling fans this means that the coup by Phill Bates, organiser of the Cycling Classic in October to get Stephens to ride for one of the competing teams, will be thwarted. ”
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The UCI response has not changed:
“And finally for an interview with Jalabert, which for the manner and the content could only be qualified as impertinent, who described the officials of the UCI as ” half Count Dracula and half neo-nazi”. In response, the UCI demanded a sanction for defamation and according to the rules of the UCI, Jalabert risks a suspension of one to six months. ” Paul Kimmage, eat your heart out!
October 16th 2012 @ 10:31pm
dasilva said | October 16th 2012 @ 10:31pm | Report comment
I don’t agree with legalising EPO due to ill health to people using that drug
However I do agree wiht the general principle that drugs should only be illegal if they simultaneously enhance performance AND harm the health of the athletes
If the drug has no harm or has negligible side-effects than I see no reason why that drug should be illegal
I know people will find that controversial but in my mind
I don’t really see any difference between a specialised training regime that enhanced performance and a drug that enhance performance
If there is a drug that makes people faster stronger and more stamina with no side effects then that drug is something that advances the human race. Hell we should probably fortify that drug in our food. there’s really no difference between that hypothetical drug and let say a nutrition that is beneficial to our health.
However if the drug does significantly harm the health of athletes then the advantage is unfair
Because this is forcing athletes to harm their health to be able to compete on a level playing field.
NO athlete should be put in a position where they have to harm their health or guarantee losing the event.
as an example
there is a drug called a beta blocker
this drug is banned in certain sports such as golf this is because beta blocker slows down the heart rate and therefore decrease the symptoms of anxiety you get from high pressured situations.
although that drug is not completely free of side effects. Doctors are legally allowed to prescribed that drug to healthy people who get nervous for public speaking. Essentially this is a performance enhancement for public speaking.
if doctors consider this safe enough for healthy people to reduce nervous and anxiety in public speaking than should it be safe enough to reduce anxiety fo events like golf, archery etc which beta blockers are illegal.
Although funny enough many golfers (especially the middle age over) are on beta blockers legally as it is used as an anti-hypertensive and they can easily get a therapeutic use exemption.
I think those type of drugs should be seriously question to whether they should be banned
October 16th 2012 @ 12:35pm
sittingbison said | October 16th 2012 @ 12:35pm | Report comment
hamleyn, you have just encapsulated the thoughts of millions of cycling fans in a remarkably easy to read and entertaining article. Open, honest, clear. Chapeau.
David Moncoutie might well have been one of the best riders of his generation. And riding his entire career at Cofidis lol. That takes a certain kind of courage. His first (of 2) stage win of the TdF was on Bastille Day in 2004, where he said this:
“…A single stage, that could seem a bit thin but for me, that’s enough. The emotion that I felt was enormous. In one day, I had saved my Tour….”
Here are the 12 riders above him in his best Tour in 2002. I’ll let others spot the clean one:
1 Lance Armstrong
2 Joseba Beloki
3 Raimondas Rumsas
4 Santiago Botero
5 Igor González
6 José Azevedo
7 Francisco Mancebo
8 Levi Leipheimer
9 Roberto Heras
10 Carlos Sastre
11 Ivan Basso
12 Michael Boogerd
BTW Armstrong only “won” this tour by 7 minutes to Beloki. And its taken until now for this to all come out lol.
October 16th 2012 @ 1:18pm
hamleyn said | October 16th 2012 @ 1:18pm | Report comment
Written completely from the heart, mate.
I think if you take out all those that have been linked to doping or have been busted over the last 15 years, Sastre would be a 5 time Tour winner. How about that?
October 16th 2012 @ 2:23pm
Bobo said | October 16th 2012 @ 2:23pm | Report comment
If Sastre was clean, he was the greatest talent in modern cycling. I wish I believed he was clean.
October 16th 2012 @ 3:17pm
hamleyn said | October 16th 2012 @ 3:17pm | Report comment
You and me both, Bobo. You and me both.
October 16th 2012 @ 1:08pm
Greg said | October 16th 2012 @ 1:08pm | Report comment
I enjoyed your article, but isn’t it the case you concede Merckx was at once the greatest bike rider of all time, and (at least at times) a drug cheat. I can’t reconcile your dispair at Armstrong’s wrong doing with Merckx’s actions years earlier.
It seems to me pro cycling has always operated under a cloud, and you cannot simply blame Armstrong for how you feel now about the sport.
Armstrong was and will always be an incredible cyclist and athlete; seems to me he just played by the “rules” which are there aren’t any as far as drugs go.
October 16th 2012 @ 1:16pm
hamleyn said | October 16th 2012 @ 1:16pm | Report comment
Greg, thanks for the comment. I guess I don’t feel the same about Merckx’s actions because I didn’t witness them (I wasn’t born). Whereas I grew to love the sport because of Armstrong.
You are right though, it was not just Armstrong who is to blame. It’s all the dopers and all those who were complicit in it. Its just that Armstrong is the figurehead of this problem and the one I related it to the most.
October 16th 2012 @ 1:32pm
sittingbison said | October 16th 2012 @ 1:32pm | Report comment
Greg, I just posted the last comment on the Phil Anderson thread. This might help explain a little the difference in attitudes between the pre-EPO era (100 years) and the EPO era (1992-2012 and counting).
Sure they doped before 1992, including speed, cortisone and steroids. The REASON for doing so was mostly completely different – largely to just keep competing, not necessarily to win (at all costs) although of course there was some of that too. And the overall EFFECT of the doping was considerably different – Merckx and the like were the heads of state, they were the best, they were the race horses, everyone knew who they were.
After 1992 the situation changes completely. Teams doped systematically rather than riders individually. Winning became possible and even paramount for even the domestiques and donkeys through oxygen vector doping.
Guys like Riis are not heads of state. They are not race horses. They would not even place top 50. Guys like Pantani could climb but not time trial. He rode with a HCT of 60%. And I’m sorry to say, but Armstrong could neither climb nor time trial. As evidenced by his performances in the TdF prior to 1996 being introduced to Ferrari (by Merckx lol) and starting on Edgar – withdraw, withdraw, 36th. (withdraw IN 1996, but that was his cancer year).
October 16th 2012 @ 1:17pm
jameswm said | October 16th 2012 @ 1:17pm | Report comment
By the way nice article hamleyn, I enjoyed it.
October 16th 2012 @ 1:21pm
hamleyn said | October 16th 2012 @ 1:21pm | Report comment
Thanks mate. I had to be pushed by the guys here at The Roar to write it but I’m glad I got it down on paper now. I think that the guys who did this to the sport need to realise how much they’ve damaged even the most hardcore of cycling fans.
October 16th 2012 @ 3:27pm
Tristan Rayner said | October 16th 2012 @ 3:27pm | Report comment
Well done hamleyn. It was worth us pushing, a great read and share many of the sentiments.
October 16th 2012 @ 3:44pm
hamleyn said | October 16th 2012 @ 3:44pm | Report comment
Thanks for twisting my arm, Tristan. Its actually been good inciting a bit of conversation about it. I think the ideas have struck a chord with a lot of cycling fans.
October 16th 2012 @ 3:26pm
Lroy said | October 16th 2012 @ 3:26pm | Report comment
Great article actually.
It seems to me the TDF has NEVER been clean… Armstrongs demise just seems to confirm this. I find it incredibly hard to believe that Greg Lemond never doped… doesnt he still hold a time trial record from 1989?? I suspect the 1980′s were probably the heyday of drug taking, given that naive people (like me) didnt believe that full time professional athletes would endanger themselves like that…
It was probably Ben Johnson in 1988 who laid the biggest blow to the dopers, finally the world could no longer hide their heads in the sand… I think then all sports began to look seriously at the problem… the fall of the Berlin wall revealed the East Germans had been systematically doping in all sports for eons…and confirmed that Johnson was not a flash in the pan, or abberation.
I love Cadel Evans.. but can we really be sure he never took anything? And now Wiggins.. he made the last tour look like a sunday morning recovery ride… is he really clean as well??… is the tour simply TOO hard?? One day they do 210 kms mostly uphill.. the next day they do a 40km time trial… can any rider really perform day after day with stresses like that on his body.. should the tour revert to its old format.. ergo mainly an endurance event?
But I still dont understand how Armstrong never tested positive.. even if he was only tested 60 times (instead of 500) .. surely they can re test his samples and confirm on way or the other that he doped??
Barry Bonds and Curt Shilling from baseball have both STILL not admitted to any doping, despite other people making allegations about them… (same situation as LA actually) .. and nothing has ever happned to them… Unless there is a solid test failure.. it is concievable that Lance Armstrong will still get out of all this… From what I have seen… a really good defence lawyer will be able to make inroads into Tyler Hamilton, Henchapie and all the rest of them.
I dont think LA’s imminent downfall is as certain as some people are believing.
October 16th 2012 @ 3:44pm
hamleyn said | October 16th 2012 @ 3:44pm | Report comment
As sittingbison mentioned above, doping was around in the ’80′s and earlier, but the drugs did not have anywhere near the effect that EPO had. You needed drugs merely to survive, so the great athletes were still winning all the races. Since the early-90′s though, there have been a lot of obscure results, guys who were once domestiques were winning big races (e.g. Riis). EPO had such a drastic effect, particularly on riders whose bodies responded well to it.
I can understand your scepticism behind Evans and Wiggins. However, this year’s Tour was not nearly as difficult as any Tour in the last 10 years. Bear in mind that they were missing Contador and Schleck for the whole race, which meant it didn’t break up anywhere near as much in the mountains and the race’s difficulty was much less than 2011. Cadel’s ride in 2011 was outstanding, but remember he was up against Contador, who’d just completed the most difficult Giro d’Italia in history, and the Schlecks, neither of whom can time trial.
As for Armstrong testing positive, as I explained, there are heaps of ways they got around it. Testers actually had to give riders 30 minutes notice before testing them. So riders could deploy saline, blood plasma and a number of different methods to mask the drugs in their system.
Finally, I don’t know much about Barry Bonds, but I understand a lot of it was down to criminal activity and trying to prove it. The burden of proof is much higher so it is very difficult to prove guilt, as it needs to be “beyond reasonable doubt”. However, in a doping case, the burden of proof is much lower, so that you only need to prove what a reasonable person would believe. Here, the evidence is overwhelmingly against LA. He will break out the “I’ve been test 600 times and never failed once” as many times as he likes but the evidence against him is so damning that no reasonable person would believe he didn’t dope.
October 16th 2012 @ 3:48pm
Tim Renowden said | October 16th 2012 @ 3:48pm | Report comment
Go back and read the USADA dossier again, because Armstrong apparently tested positive on a number of occasions.
Some samples from Le Tour in 1999 were re-tested and found to contain EPO. L’Equipe published this in 2005: http://velonews.competitor.com/2005/08/tour-de-france/lequipe-alleges-armstrong-samples-show-epo-use-in-99-tour_8740
He tested positive to corticosteroids in 1999 and was given a back-dated prescription by the team doctor.
He allegedly tested positive to EPO at the 2001 Tour of Switzerland.
Following the development of a testing protocol for EPO, the peloton moved to microdosing and blood transfusions which are much harder to detect. Much of this was happening in before the UCI signed up to the WADA anti-doping code, in 2004, so testing was perhaps not as consistent as it could have been.
The ABC’s Four Corners did a pretty thorough summary of all this last night, it’s worth a look.
October 19th 2012 @ 4:42pm
Lroy said | October 19th 2012 @ 4:42pm | Report comment
“A spokesman for the World Anti-Doping Agency told VeloNews Tuesday that the agency does “not have enough information at the moment,” adding that “it would be premature for us to comment on the specifics of this case.” (taken from the article)
Dude, thanks for the link by the way. From my intepretation of the article.. L’Equip reported LA had failed these new drug tests for EPO… but the agency has never confirmed that… So Im not sure that is actual proof of a failed test.
The Irish girl claims she disposed of syringes for Armtstong.. big deal.. they could have been vitamins (seriously).. the bit about providing makeup to cover up needles marks on the arm is heresay.. ( he said she said)…
And as for Armstrong admitting to a panel of doctors that he doped prior to undergoing chemo therapy.. allegedly in the company of the wife of his buddy… surely one of the doctors would have spilled the beans by now?? Why would Lance receive a private consultation with a group of other people present…. with multiple doctors??
When I had a test for a serious illness.. it was most definately one on mone and totally confidential… this claim doesnt seem credible to me…
I think this is the same girl who claimed that ADDIDAS made a $500K donation to the UCI to cover up a positive Armstrong drug test.. this has been repudiated by ADDIDAS… so this lady is NOT a reliable witness… and her testimony cannot be relied upon…
You can use the same argument for the rest of them..(accusers).. they all got busted, and spilled the beans in exchange for an amnesty..
Seriously, I don’t think there is as much to take this guy down as people think. I mean.. how much of this stuff would stand up to scrutiny in a court of law??
Appreciate all the feedback and links by the way… Im not a lance supporter per se in the sense that if he cheated, well suspend him.. but the evidence has to be able to presented in a court of law, with the right of replay doesnt it?
October 16th 2012 @ 3:58pm
sittingbison said | October 16th 2012 @ 3:58pm | Report comment
Two points Lroy:
1) Greg Lemond has been retired 20 years. He has been the only vociferous anti-doper cyclist in all that time, making many accusations about his competitors and successors. There are many who would like to see him STFU including Armstrong who offered a $300k reward for information on doping. Yet in all this time, there has not been a whiff, the slightest suggestion or innuendo of any kind LeMond ever doped. Indeed his closest rival Laurent Fignon admitted to doping in his autobiography, yet did not throw LeMond under the bus in any way at all. There is even the example of him going straight from the hotel to the supermarket to buy bottled water when he thought his team might spike him. So don’t lose faith in LeMond. There ARE clean riders.
2) Lance Armstrong had a maximum of 236 tests. He has failed 13 and counting. Starting from his teenage years with three still existing testosterone T/E irregularities (something like another 11 have disappeared). The 500-600 tests is a complete fabrication (like almost everything else he has ever said), as is the “I have never failed a test”. You want to know why he never tested positive (even though he has)? It is implied in the USADA evidence that various authorities and institutions have covered up and protected him. The most likely reason why is to not upset the gravy train.
October 19th 2012 @ 4:46pm
Lroy said | October 19th 2012 @ 4:46pm | Report comment
Dude.. seems to me the suspicion about Armstong was first aroused when his great rival (the German guy) got busted.. the argument was that if LA could beat this guy, who we know doped, then he must have doped as well. You could use the same argument against Greg LeMond could you not?
October 16th 2012 @ 4:05pm
Lamby said | October 16th 2012 @ 4:05pm | Report comment
What happens if the UCI won’t ban lance? What I’d they say EPO is an APROVED substance?
I have no faith in these organizations overseeing sport. They not are accountable to anybody. FIFA grants Qatar the rights to a World Cup, read ‘lord of the rings’ by Andrew Jennings for info on corruption in the IOC. I think there is about a 50% chance that UCI will not ban Lance.
October 16th 2012 @ 4:25pm
hamleyn said | October 16th 2012 @ 4:25pm | Report comment
As mentioned in my post, Lamby, that would be the final nail in their corrupt coffin. If they don’t ban him, the cycling community will abandon ship in their droves.
October 16th 2012 @ 5:12pm
Tim Renowden said | October 16th 2012 @ 5:12pm | Report comment
I don’t think the IOC would be willing to accept the UCI protecting dopers, especially when the tide of public outrage has so clearly flooded the UCI’s sandcastle.
The UCI must abide by the WADA code if it wants to be affiliated with the IOC. Refusing to submit to USADA’s decision could have serious consequences for the UCI’s ability to administer cycling as an Olympic sport.
So I reckon the UCI will throw Lance to the wolves and mouth platitudes about reform while hoping this all blows over leaving McQuaid and Verbruggen still in charge.
October 16th 2012 @ 5:22pm
Bobo said | October 16th 2012 @ 5:22pm | Report comment
But Tim, if IOC’s response is the same as Samaranch in 1998 post-Festina (see above post), they won’t ban cycling. Verbruggen is on the IOC. He will know in advance if UCI will risk losing its Olympic status by rejecting the Reasoned Decision.
If IOC refuses to sanction UCI, then WADA is in a quandry.
October 16th 2012 @ 6:13pm
sittingbison said | October 16th 2012 @ 6:13pm | Report comment
bobo since Samaranch, the IOC has created WADA. And all Olympic sports have signed the WADA Code, finally including cycling in 2006. If UCI defies USADA (which is in effect WADA), IOC has no option other than to throw them out of the Olympics. However, both UCI and WADA have the right to appeal USADA to CAS. This is if a genuine mistake has been made, or there is a jurisdictional issue.
This case is slightly different to the normal failed an A sample and B sample. There are 1000 pages of evidence, all interconnected. So there is no possibility of a genuine mistake. Jurisdiction? Despite the best drunken attempts of Fat Pat during the Federal Court hearings in front of Judge Sparks, and diatribes by fanbois and interns on every forum including this one, there is no dispute that USADA has jurisdiction. And just to make doubly sure, they bolstered that position in the Reasoned Decision by clearly starting the entire process with Kyle Leogrande rather than Floyds email. And lets not forget Sparks own decision granting jurisdiction to USADA.
One thing I can see happening is UCI appealing the six month suspensions to CAS in a nasty act of vindictiveness. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if USADA and the witnesses suspected this all along, and set the 6 months as a trap, accepting that CAS will arbitrate a middle ground acceptable term.
October 16th 2012 @ 6:54pm
Bobo said | October 16th 2012 @ 6:54pm | Report comment
I’m well aware of the WADA Code, and of the jurisidictional and legal nightmare that would result by the IOC not following its own rules. I’m also not confident that it won’t happen.
I’m also well aware of the evidence, and am a little surprised that USADA held back on some of the more explosive allegations. I assume from your Clinic contributions you are aware of what I mean.
As for your last point – I agree entirely. It’s just the sort of vindictive and petty pique I would expect from the cabal in Aigle.
October 16th 2012 @ 7:54pm
sittingbison said | October 16th 2012 @ 7:54pm | Report comment
bobo I seem to recall a conversation during the Olympics that IOC might be glad for the opportunity to get rid of cycling – and vice versa would really hurt UCI. Because UCI get $13m from the IOC every Olympic cycle (scuze the pun)? And there has already been a curtailing of cycling events?
October 16th 2012 @ 7:59pm
Bobo said | October 16th 2012 @ 7:59pm | Report comment
I don’t think cycling has been reduced; simply, where the keirin, BMX and women’s track events have increased, they have removed all the blue riband events – the kilo, Madison, etc.
The story on how UCI petitioned for Olympic keirin, and the small matter of $3million, is something I would like 4 corners to address.
I hope you are right about the IOC. I am a shocking cynic, though.
October 16th 2012 @ 5:24pm
hamleyn said | October 16th 2012 @ 5:24pm | Report comment
Verbruggen is no longer in charge so he is of no concern, apart from his damaging comments on the sport. Even if McQuad pledges reform, he’s been doing that ever since he’s taken over from Verbruggen and, apart from the biological passport, which has only just started to take effect (Franco Pellizzotti was the first person to be banned using it), I don’t think they’ve made much in the way of reform. Hell, they’ve only just banned needles from pro cycling teams.
October 16th 2012 @ 5:49pm
Bobo said | October 16th 2012 @ 5:49pm | Report comment
Henricus Verbruggen is every bit as in charge as he always was. Make no mistake.
October 16th 2012 @ 8:31pm
Sam said | October 16th 2012 @ 8:31pm | Report comment
Game of shadows (mark fainaru wada and lance Williams) is well worth a read. Covers Barry bonds and the BALCO story.
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