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Geoff is a Melbourne based sports fanatic and writer, who started contributing to The Roar in 2012, originally under the pen name Allanthus. His first book, A World in Conflict; the Global Battle For Rugby Supremacy was released in Dec 2017 to critical acclaim. For details on the book visit www.geoffparkes.com Meanwhile, his twin goals of achieving a single figure golf handicap and owning a fast racehorse remain tantalisingly out of reach.

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Cheers Chris.

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

No apology required mate – we all have to pay the bills!

Good point about England. While they are right to feel happy about running the champs to a single point in a match that could have gone their way, (and Eddie has made sure that this is THE story to come out of the match, the fact is that they didn’t score a point in the 2nd half, and lost on all statistical measures.

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

Cheers NV. When you get to my age a day or two late is neither here nor there! 🙂

Yes I agree that Barrett had a good match, suitable for the conditions, it was noticeable that he held the ball into contact on a few occasions rather than shift it into trouble behind the advantage line, and he was definitely playing more of a traditional 10 role – again, suitable for the conditions.

You’re right about the defence in Cardiff. Australia was good, but Wales won the game off of theirs – the total breakdown of the Wallabies attack was part tactical ineptness, but also a big part the defensive organisation and execution grinding them into submission.

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

“IMO the quality of the English performance is being slightly overestimated”

That really speaks to my opening point about how Eddie is the master manipulator, doesn’t it? If this match had been 12 months ago, to settle to notional ‘best team in the world’ argument, Eddie would have been a loser, coming up short.

But given the context of England’s 2018 results he was straight onto the front foot to paint this close loss as his second coming.

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

That’s a fair point about the AB’s back row FB.
Read/Savea/Squire is a quality trio, but nevertheless it’s not the same as Read/McCaw/Kaino.

NZ won last time in Dublin by adopting a ‘no prisoners’ physical approach. How they approach things this time will be fascinating – but they’ll certainly have to start a lot better. You just know that Ireland will be tearing into it from the first whistle.

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

“They weren’t as good as their 18 straight wins implied, but they certainly weren’t as bad as last season implies.”

Spot on FB.

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

I think your summary shows just how hard it is to win a World Cup, Sheek. A lot of stars need to align at the same time, and of course luck and fortune plays a part as well.

If there is a coaching change after this tour then I’m not totally dismissive of Australia’s chances. But in the current set up, you’d have to think they’re no chance at all.

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

Absolutely Andrew. Which really only makes it all the more frustrating that Australia is missing the bus.

What was telling, was when Brett Gosper visited a few weeks back, and held a presser at Concord, and a number of the questions asked by journos were based around, ‘what is World Rugby going to do to fix Australia, and when are they going to do it?’

That’s a gross misunderstanding of World Rugby’s function. Australia should be big enough and mature enough to fix its own problems.

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

Just to clarify Cliff,

– there no question the game is NOT in good health in Australia
– but globally, it is in good health

Which really only adds to the frustration…

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

Well in that case I hope they’re paying you well for it!

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

Very good Nicolai!
On that basis, the Wallabies have the cup in the bag already. 🙂

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

Sharp pick-up adam.
Not sure if he’s been involved in the coaching though?

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

Cheers Cliff, sounds like an interesting place to live!

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

Not sure that’s a totally recent thing TT? At least not since he returned after his sabbatical?

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

Cheers WB, I never question the effort, but after a break since the RC, and the chance to play someone other than the AB’s, I think we were all entitled to expect a much better performance.

As you say, full credit to Wales, they were long overdue a win, but it’s hard to understate just how disappointing the Wallabies were.

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

Yes baz, the only decent kick by a Wallaby in all of that was by Toomua, and the irony was he hit it so well it went over the dead ball line…

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

Excellent comment mz!

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

I certainly agree that halfbacks are allowed too much latitude mz.
But there’d need to be a lot more clarity provided around what constitutes “in” or “out”.

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

I reckon Neil’s on top of it all Cliff…

The kiwi education system is interesting mate. Once you’ve mastered the haka they pretty much leave you alone to do whatever you like. Like come to Australia for example.

Actually, on a more serious note, I would be interested to hear what the rugby scene is like in Kyrgzystan. Where would they sit?

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

Without knowing what has happened on this tour Cliff, my understanding is that the players have been tight behind Cheika.

If there is to be a change, I’d suggest that Larkham is currently 1,000/1 to get the gig.

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

I’m sure there are many people now wishing they’d followed your lead RT, and opted for sleep instead of subjecting themselves to that Wallabies v Wales performance.

If you’re lucky you’ll get home to find that your missus has taped over the game with Real Housewives of Orange County.

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

Cheika certainly has a lot of qualities Hugh. And that’s why he’s been afforded a lot of latitude and autonomy.

But that only lasts as long as the results support it.

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

Ok, well there you go. There’s conflicting reports going around.
I know there’s been controversy in the past, but it makes no sense to invest in a stadium with a roof and then leave it open on a wet day.

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

I tend to agree Jacko. England threw the kitchen sink at McKenzie, on a wet night, and he definitely came through it with more ticks than crosses.

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

Hi Cliff

I think if Gloria’s point was that the AB’s are beatable on any given day by any team playing well, then it would be well made.

But he’s mostly straw clutching and stirring – which is all good fun in love and war!

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths