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I would give my back teeth for that pack today. I reckon we would even give the roosters a touch up with those players in our side today 😛

Hey SG. Was thinking last night whilst watching the game that it has some similarities to 2014. Big bollocking fullback (Inglis/Mitchell) with a few young bucks as centres and winger with AJ, Av’au and Walker/Paulo, Marsters and although Graham has been there for a while he still is only 21. The old timer Tuqiri/Gagai who we know from SOO is an excellent winger.

Forwards still worry me but with Koloamatangi and Mago we get some impact off the bench and if they can hold there own we might be able to go deeper into the finals than most gave us a chance.

With Mitchell looking like he is out for some time AJ to fullback but Bring on the Storm as I am keen to see how we go againt them.

Probably should have been even more heavily in favour of Souths given that NRL.com has the average play the ball for Para at 3.3s compared to Souths 3.77s.
With the ref allowing Parra to slow the play the ball down by almost 0.5secs on average and lost the six six again Calls one might suggest he was managing the game but in a way to stop the score blowing out further.
Could you envisage, with the dominance Souths had, what thescore could have been if they were allowed to play the ball as quickly as Parramatta were. 😛

Did you read the replies above that one to Jacko where I stated that as he (Jacko) had brought the entire world into the conversation regarding union and league, as opposed to Australia, when looking at players in jail, that you commented on, then he should look at rugbypass.com – darkest off field episodes.
It took several hours for my post with the link to come through but if you click on the link a couple of posts above it Clearly covers 5 murders perpetrated. Playing rugby does not make you a better class of citizen nor do smarter people play it.
Perhaps you should read all posts to understand context and purpose before trying to come on a league site to denigrate this game and to make yourself feel better about your dying sport in this country.
Once you have understood the context about which the post was written you can come back here and apologise to all on here about your comments on league players in jail, about parents and domestic violence that you have made without facts and then scurry back to the union site where you can sit smugly in your own self proclaimed superiority and not sully yourself down here with the ordinary folk any longer.

Interesting you question my comprehension and asking why only I got to choose the participants. I was replying to Honest Max and if you wanted to read things properly I stated that Honest Max had said “if they were born in another country” which in itself means that he was specifically referring to Australia.
Again regarding financial position not disputing this new tangent you want to bring into the discussion. Again you need to bring rather world into it to make yourself feel better. I have only been discussing Australia as per Max. Hope you comprehend that But I understand your need to include the world
It was you, I guess as this didn’t suit your narrative and to try and win this pi$$ing contest you accuse me of and perhaps so badly want to win, decided to bring the rest of the word as a reply to my comment. It was as if you read my comment and understood nothing.
This way though you can fulfil you own prophecy by pumping up unions tyres to make you feel better about a game which, I acknowledge is way bigger than League worldwide) is in massive decline in Australia. After all I haven’t ever found the need to go on to a union site to denigrate union to make me feel better about the game I follow but it appears you find the need to come to a league site so you can remind yourself that you are not following a 5th teir sport in Australia But a bigger game than it is.
As far as interpreting reply’s and to read things properly you stated “I just hate seeing total ignorance thrown around without any facts”…. I made my commentS as that if you hate that so much and are prepared to correct us leaguies on here, and even throw in a jibe about the schoolgirls with bulldogs, then why are you not prepared to also correct Honest Max when he talks about NRL players in jail and let him know that also applies to union.
General or specific comments made by you is simply semantics and given that you wanted to bring overseas union into it I included atrocities committed over their to highlight that union types are not so superior. I don’t need help in interpretation just pointing out that if you are so strong in your dislike of ignorance and misuse of facts that why are you not brining to account your fellow union supporter.

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As do I Adam. Played the game (also AFL very young and League when just young) although was to small and ended up breaking my leg At 30. Spent 5 months in a cast and that was it but do not love it as much as league.

Just like you don’t see the need for the Union guys to be on here trying to make themselves feel better about their code dying in Australia. After all they can sit smugly in the smoking room smugly Of an evening in their tweed jackets in the knowledge it’s bigger overseas.

If you don’t like facts being misrepresented tell me where I was wrong in regards to union being the 5th tier/ranked sport in Australia.
Taking into account cricket, AFL, NRL all clearly Rank higher than union and I believe that soccer with crowds, participation and TV audiences are ahead of union.
If you hate ignorance being shown why are you not correcting Honest Max on his ill informed comments regarding league and especially the parents of the kids that play, and even those NRL players in jail, or are the above comments just lip service and you are only prepared to follow through when it suits you.
For example you are happy enough to throw in a jibe about the bulldogs school girls issues and let the NRL players in Jail jibe slip past without correcting the facts however let’s have a look at the self entitled union players like the blade runner who murdered his girlfriend. Look up rugbypass.com – 5 Of the darkest Off field episodes to see a few more of the type of thing that Honest Max alluded to for NRL players but which union are significantly worse.

Have replied to Jacko with a link to several murders perpetrated by union players which was one of Honest Max’s comments in his second post about league players and reasons for their superiority.
Hasn’t been posted yet but makes interesting reading. Leaves league players issues in the dust and was only the third line on the google search.

Honest Max specifically said “if they were born in another country” and therefore was referring to Australia. In Australia RU is a 5th tier sport. My point stands!

However Jacko I am glad you have expanded to the world as he mentions, as part of his subsequent post to prove his point, “Or maybe google NRL players that are in Jail over the last 20 years. Now there have been some terrible things that NRL players have done especially around drugs and sexual harassment but these pale into insignificance when looking at Union on a Global basis that you have now brought into the equation.

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/five-of-rugby-union-darkest-off-field-episodes/

Shooting your wife in front of 60 people, beating someone to death with their bare hands and an axe murderer. Certainly paints Union in a different light to that that good old Honest Max is trying to paint.

The above is only the 3rd line on a google search. Didn’t have to dig to hard so one could only imagine if I made a concerted effort to really investigate the atrocities that union players are likely to have committed.

Rugby union is the Go Kart of the Football codes – no one really cares about it as it is a 5th tier sport in Australia.

I am in agreement with your recollection that the five young men who took their lives had not played first grade. That begs the question was it their belief they were ready and, because they were not getting the opportunity, felt they had missed the boat that put the pressure on them to do something so tragic.

What makes a player who is 18 automatically mature enough to make the transition to the NRL. I have seen 19 yo less capable mentally and less mature than some 17yo. Plenty of young people put undue pressure on themselves to achieve and I assume the NRL would have, as part of there pathways, Psychologists to support players in their journey.

Before any player ( and if someone wants to set an age my suggestion would be say under 20) starts in the NRL they should be made to work with a psychologist on their mental health and sign off that they are as prepared as they possibly could be (Whilst acknowledging there are no guarantees) to play.

You might be right about Tyrone at the East Sydney City Tri Colour Roosters. After all a lot of the players had stopped playing for Madge in 2017 which was his first year and although he got himself into trouble in 18 perhaps the rot had set in.

Will be interesting with Suaalii as even though they are looking to bend the rules he will be 17.5 years old under current rules and not sure if 6 months will make a significant difference to his maturity to handle the pressure if he doesn’t have it by then.

Hopefully he has the right people around him to keep him grounded and he can make it in the game.

Yep agree. As an example look up Tyrone Taukamo. He was chased by 15 NRL clubs as well as Toulon union but went with Souths.
He had all the wraps and Souths were bringing him along through the ranks. Was playing with the Bears at 18/19 and like Suaalii In the juniors he was a man among boys at 110kgs and a centre.
He was a superstar at 15 playing under 18’s Union rep sides. He was training with Souths NRL Side at 17 whilst still playing For the Bears and was expected to move to NRL, as long as he knuckled down as he wasn’t the best trainer, the next year. During 2018 he went off the rails (off field issues I was told) and Souths let him go. He moved to Manly and I think played a couple of games in NSW cup and disappeared.
I don’t think there is any right way to bring these kids through as Taukamo had all the wraps Was shielded from much of the hype and was brought along slowly and still couldn’t handle it.
Let’s hope Suaalii is different to this story.

Agree just wasn’t the point I was trying to make. He apparently also played AFL so let’s hope he’s doesn’t do an Izzy..

Yep that definitely the rule they want to break for him but also ties them to the club as well. Not sure how they a remunerated and if it’s just cash?

Yep as I said above that’s an NRL contract which he cannot sign and cannot be registered until he is 17. However he has a contract as a junior to play Harold Matt’s until The end of 2021 and he is still eligible to play in this comp and not the NRL this is the legal contract.
Fox sports 23/7/2020 – Suaalii is currently contracted to the Rabbitohs for 2021 on a rookie contract worth $600,000 a season.
Wide World of Sports 21/7/20 – Contracted with Souths until the end of next season, Suaalii last month agreed to a three-year extension at Redfern worth around $1.7 million.
I guess he could do aSonny Bill and break that contract and play Rugby or he could sign with another NRL club for 2022 but as stated he is contracted to Souths until the end of next year. PS sorry I cannot seem to get it to break up into sentences like you can.

I certainly cannot see that anywhere so will take your word for it. However that all is irrelevant to me but a point brought up to deflect from the fact that I was correcting some who didn’t believe the ARU were looking to “Steal” him away from league, reportedly for next year to play in the Olympics’, despite Him Having a contract with Souths.

Not Souths’s – My understanding is all NRL clubs subs can sign kids When they are 16.they can sign them to an NRL contract when 17
Edit. Found an article which was 2018 which stated that a family/player can sign with an agent in the year they turn 15 at which time they can also sign a contract to play in the junior comps like Harold Matt’s so was a year out. Don’t know if things have changed recently.

Not correct I believe. He has played in the Souths juniors since He was 11 and was playing for the Harold Matt’s side last year. He has a contract to specific to that which enables him to play in those comps and the U20’s to the end of 2021 But not a top 30 nrl contract. Souths offer is to extend the contract which will include conversion to a top 30 nrl deal.

Didn’t disagree with the original comment that he played both sport – That is pretty obvious really and plenty do. What I was pointing out was the comment “how can they (ARU) be stealing him when he hadn’t signed a contract”. This was factually incorrect given he has a contract with Souths. He also stated he is a schoolboys rugby player who also plays league. I beg to differ on this given he was playing league prior to union and only started to play union due to no league program being available. From my point of view he is a league player who also plays union.

I guess peoples perceptions will always differ depending on which side of the station your standing and which train you wish to catch in each debate.

It is reported that Suaalii is tied to Souths on a contract to 2021 with Souths offer an Extension of that contract. So On that basis yes they are trying to poach him from League and encouraging him to break a contract in the process. He has been playing League since he was 11 with the Bunnies but only started Union when he went to private school from 13 I believe as they only had a union program.

Could be wrong Nat but I think Souths have signed Demetriou to an extension confirming that once Bennett finishes up at the end of 2021 he will take over as head coach.