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That is ironic. The middle order has to have a decent lower order batter to partner with. That is Australia’s problem. The lower order is so deficient in batting skills they can’t partner with the middle order.

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

That’s right nudge we need to buffer the tail otherwise the tail will be blown away contributing zilch.

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

It’s the pressure he builds, so that often bowlers at the other end are the beneficiaries in the wicket department. Lillee with Thommo. Woakes with Wood.

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

“Hazlewood who has more weapons on a flat pitch when the ball isn’t moving”. Seen nothing out of the ordinary from the Hoff. More weapons like ??? He is being underbowled because he isn’t totally fit. Starc has been the revelation.

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

He’s currently better than Cameron Green who,shouldn’t have a mortgage on a spot in the line up.

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

You can’t drop Second best batsman in the world. Green is struggling to hold his own position.

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

I would consider Neser in the all rounder category now.

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

So you are happy seeing the tail getting blown away again?. You have conveniently overlooked the lower order dilemma.

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

Yes strike while the iron is hot. Form is a precious commodity

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

Interesting those two individuals come from Qld

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

That’s it great comment

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

Is Murphy going to be bashed out of the attack ? It’s a realistic question irrespective of the pitch conditions.

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

If the WI were playing Englands side today do you think Roger Harper would be picked against Bazball? Absolutely not. If he was he would’ve got the two over treatment. Different time different context. I think Murphy will be a wasted selection, he is no Lyon

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

There is clearly an attempt to downgrade the quality of Neser’s bowling on this thread to only the county status. Let’s remember he clean bowled Pujara for Australian A and has taken wickets against England before. He is a quality TEST bowler

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

Two centuries by Neser this county championship. I would go with that form.

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

In the overall context of their time of dominance they really didn’t use Harper much nor Viv, nor Carl hooper. They just knew their fast bowlers would do the job. That is a very unrealistic selective sample

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

Jeff, I guess what I’m saying is that there is a risk reward situation here with Murphy. I think Cummins knows Murphy is going to get Bazballed out of the attack. I do also. So he bowls a few overs. No real reward. A wasted selection. That is another reason I won’t go for Murphy. The series is tight . Not the place for a newbie. If it was Lyon yes I would pick not Murphy.

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

Neser will do that. It’s like oh we bring Marsh in and he gets a ton. Who would have thought? Bring Neser in it gives the Poms something else to deliberate on and he might just deliver a Michelle pfieffer.

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

We need a number 8 who can bat like Woakes. If we don’t our tail is going to get blown away. Neser comes in at 8. Choose between Hazlewood and Murphy. This attack is as good as the Windies in the day. When did they need a spinner in England?

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

“The good thing about Neser’s innings is time in the middle for 3+ hours.“ Good point . Time in the middle and FORM. That’s why I believe you go with Marsh and Neser. It’s arguable that Neser is better value than Hoff who is still being “ managed” in his return.

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

Actually we have the fast bowling group with Neser to do the job without Murphy irrespective of the conditions.

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

Australia has to find a way to bat deeper than Carey who looks intimidated to me. Neser gives us the Woakes type. England knows lower order runs are CRITICAL whereas we don’t seem to care. Proven with Woakes getting them over the line. Or they go with both Marsh and Green. Marsh has to play. With three tight matches lower order runs are going to continue to be critical.

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

You feel these selectors will get us over the line to retain the Ashes but not win them

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

Better technique than Hazelwood/ Boland/ Murphy/ Cummins. He comes in for Murphy for mine. He is the Terry Alderman type who was successful.

Ashes Scout: Neser's career-best stunner, tactical shift that turbocharged Starc, Pom wants more 'nonsense'

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