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A LONG time Chelsea supporter, an original AUFC fan, member and season ticket holder. Life member of Salisbury Utd, past player, ref, coach and administrator. Yep been there done that.

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Yes. For some reason players that spend time here with us, mature as people and players. As AA stated, we improve the raw product and help them on their way.

Tony Gustavsson knows new blood is required if the Matildas are to be a World Cup threat

I agree, and with her Chelsea experience added to her game plan now, she is able to sit deeper and still get forward to get on the end of some decent crosses.

Tony Gustavsson knows new blood is required if the Matildas are to be a World Cup threat

Andy we agree on a lot of things and disagree on a lot of things.

The way to solve the Top 6 play offs, [in my opinion] is simple, first past the post are named the Champions and gets a barrow full of money. While the winner of the Grand-Final gets called the Premiers and a lot less of the money. A win win situation.

As far as the fitness of the current NPL players, it is obvious for all to see and has been from the first year it was played. But the improvement in NPL sides has been so slow as I haven’t noticed it, maybe you have as it is part of your job.

Right now the CUP is a good and solid comp. I did hear Rowie and Cornesy talking about having something similar for their footy code, on last Thursday’s sport show. They suggested that the biggest stumbling block would be the AFL themselves. Which is a good thing.

Don’t mess with the magic of the FFA Cup as Matildas give us hope

FiL – I agree JJ is the man to take us to where the sport should be.

As far as P/R I am still not convinced that a pure 1 up 1 down or 2 or 3 is the right way to go. We need a system that works for us. Which is why, I think we need to incorporate a play off system that includes the last 2 teams in the A League men. It is far more important that we have the best teams at the top level rather than having P/R for the sake of it. Thus weakening the top structure.

At the moment, the weakest A League club, would be too strong for the best NPL side in Australia, no matter who they were.

Don’t mess with the magic of the FFA Cup as Matildas give us hope

Chris, they have hope, but if you were being honest with yourself, would you really suggest that on a level playing field an NPL side could match it with any A League club?

As for Swindon or Brentford, it is great seeing them battle it out with the best in the land, but when the best Championship side last season is yet to win a game this season and puts in a performance like Norwich did against Chelsea, don’t you ask yourself ‘Why do they bother’. It appears they know what is going to happen to them and just don’t go about it in any meaningful way.

What makes you think our NPL sides are any different?

As I said we do need to have all stake holders connected, but we need to find a system that suits us. I am not convinced that a direct P/R system is best for us.
**{I qualify that by adding ‘At this point in time’**}

Don’t mess with the magic of the FFA Cup as Matildas give us hope

Spot on Buddy. Lets keep it honest.

Don’t mess with the magic of the FFA Cup as Matildas give us hope

OFF TOPIC KIND OF!

While I agree with everyone that the game as a whole needs that connect between the grass roots and the professional A Leagues, we also need to be realistic.

Nothing I have seen in the FFA Cup this year or any other year, so far, suggests that any of the NPL sides could match it up against an A League team. Baring in mind the time of year the early rounds are played in. If there are going to be upsets [as some people call them] then these rounds are likely to house them. Yes I know that both wanderers and Adelaide Utd have been beaten by local NPL sides, but as I say, put it in context.

However, even if there was a 16 team A Leagues Men comp, and a fully functioning NSD I don’t think that is the complete answer in itself. Especially if the NSD is also a closed shop.

What is unique about Australia sport is our play-off structures to determine winners etc and that should be embraced and built upon. So rather than a straight P/R system that works well in the European leagues, lets have a pure play off system for a place in both the top League and the proposed NSD.

IF in a 16 team A League Men comp, the bottom 2 clubs were to meet the top two sides from the NSD [after their own top 6 play off series] for places in the A Leagues Men comp. That way the top comp would always be filled with the best 16 sides in Australia. Which, I suggest is what our system should always be aiming for.

Then on top of that, the bottom side in the NSD has to play off against the NPL Champions of Australia, which should pit the Champion teams from each Federation against each other for the right to play in the NSD.

All of this would be subject to two major and important GAURANTEES that the NSD club if they are unsuccessful would be allowed to reenter their own states top league. No bickering, no issues and no drama’s or dummy spits. And further more, each club entering either the A League Men or the NSD for the first time, agrees to a strict criteria of financial scrutiny.

Now that shouldn’t be too hard to put together, surely?

Don’t mess with the magic of the FFA Cup as Matildas give us hope

@Chris – While I agree with you that the game as a whole needs that connect between the grass roots and the professional A Leagues, we also need to be realistic.

Nothing I have seen so far suggests that any of the NPL sides could match it up against an A League team. Baring in mind the time of year the early rounds are played in. If there are going to be upsets [as some people call them] then these rounds are likely to house them.

However, even if there was a 16 team A Leagues Men comp, and a fully functioning NSD I don’t think that is the complete answer in itself. Especially if the NSD is also a closed shop.

What is unique about Australia sport is our play-off structure and that should be embraced and built upon. So rather than a straight P/R system that works well in the European leagues, lets have a pure play off system for a place in both the top League and the proposed NSD.

Don’t mess with the magic of the FFA Cup as Matildas give us hope

I wonder why nomates?

Uncovering the brilliance of Network 10’s new A-League promo

Having watched the game from a difficult viewing position nothing I saw surprised me. United played like a team having their second competitive match in 6 months, Olympic played like a team having competed in a very successful NPL season. Can we draw any conclusions from it for the up coming A League season, not really, United will face sterner tests in the next round and in the league, and they will come through it. Way too early to say this player or that player will perform well or won’t make it.

A special mention to the Olympic players who stayed out on the park after the game and went around the ground to thank their supporters and the those in red, I wasn’t expecting them to do that. well done.

FFA Cup Round of 16 review: United become first team through to the quarters

Well said Stuart. I am like you in that I firmly believe that the current crop may well out perform our golden generation when it comes to the world cup next year. I don’t think a lot of us really appreciate just how good we are.

I would go one step further, when discussing Australian football. The A League is frowned upon by many, stating it isn’t worth the money to go and see. I always speak up, rather loudly according to my wife and family, in defense of the A League. I sincerely believe it is better than some things we see on TV. I have watched some SPL matches, also some lower leagues from England as well as the Bundesliga and Serie A games. I am not suggesting that the A League can be compared to any of the major leagues anywhere in the world, obviously the talented players playing at the highest level against their peers, will always look better. However, comparing the A League to some of the games I have seen in the SPL and the Championship in England, I know what I enjoy more.

Why do some people enjoy rubbishing the Socceroos?

@Paul2 – How long have you been following football mate? These question marks were around from day 1. Where were you then?

I think you don’t really have an ‘honest’ take on it but rather you may well be a supporter from either another code or ‘heaven forbid’ from Amnesty International. Which is fine by the way but be honest about it.

Big in Japan, unloved in Australia: Will we ever respect Asian football?

I will declare my bias up front. Most of the NSL clubs let the game down. Their pettiness knows no bounds. Nothing any of them say or do will surprise me. They should all be kept as far away from the running of the game as is possible.

In my mind the next set of criteria should include the owning of a stadium/sporting complex. Should we be looking at the likes of Canberra, or Wollongong or an Auckland, sure, as soon as they can come up and meet any new criteria. Pressure must also be put on existing clubs to go to that next level of stadium ownership. I can hear all the fans screaming now, he’s a dreamer, tell’em he’s crazy. But unless you set bigger goals for everyone, you are going to be stuck where we are.

I think this is the perfect time to start the ball rolling, it may take a generation or two for it to happen but unless you actually start on a journey, you won’t ever get to where you want to be.

Tonight on the ABC will be another watershed moment. It will be interesting to see what these investigative journalists come up with. I would love to know who is hiding in the back ground, at all clubs, even at my own beloved Adelaide United. Nothing to be afraid of, if there are some corrupt individuals involved at club level shouldn’t we want to know about it? If everyone is clean and there are no issues, then why haven’t the clubs and these individuals come forth and told us openly and honestly who they are and what they have done wrong in their past.

Football Australia needs to acknowledge two big mistakes

Nailed it mate. People have short memories where the old NSL clubs are concerned.

Make no mistake, the only reason these clubs want a NSD is so they can get a leg in the door. I believe that we do need a NSD however it shouldn’t be so cheap and the levels so low that it is used as a stepping stone once P/R is introduced down the track. [way down the track, I hope]

One thing the APL and the FA must not do is lower the license fee structure for any new clubs, be those who win promotion or those who win a tender.

Football Australia needs to acknowledge two big mistakes

‘Football needs TV ratings FACT, its what they(APL,FFA) are getting paid for to get people watching what don’t u get about that?’

This is where we will start to disagree. The FA’s job is to govern the sport Australia wide, not to be pre-occupied with how any of the National teams rate. I’m not sure where you got that idea from. The sport existed and prospered long before there was FTA TV and will continue to do so after FTA TV slowly peters out.

‘Ratings are importin if something doesn’t rate the networks usually dumps that program from its channel/main channel ala SBS.’

I think you may have missed the statement that Paramount + now actually are part owners of the sport here in Australia. So, as an owner, they will be in a better position, than say SBS ever was, to offer ideas and suggestions as to how this should look on :-
(A) FTA TV ;
(B) Paramount + ;
(C) Streaming platforms in the future.

Live sport isn’t treated the same as a 30 minute series, it is a long term project.

Again we will have to disagree about comparing numbers, you are saying [I think] it is the be all and end all to any decision about the sport. While I am saying the money people will be taking a longer term view.

Sure lets see how the FAA Cup rates tonight, I suspect that only the real die hards even know it is on. So I am thinking in the 20,000 – 50,000 mark.

I guess you will be gauging how Channel9/Stan rate in the mornings round of the European Champions League as well.

Women’s football in Australia: Start making noise now

I don’t have an issue about stating facts, as long as they are selected ‘facts’. As I understand the ratings system, if it is a system. There are certain types of ratings, FTA, numbers of TVs on a certain channel at a certain time. Of course they don’t take into account the number of people who choose to watch it on some other appliance or those who record it to watch at later more convenient time.
Now I am not saying you are wrong to tell us that the numbers of TVs that are on at a certain time on a certain channel are more or less than at another time, but to draw a conclusion from it to say said sport or team is more or less popular because of those numbers is a tad unfair.
Until they can show me comprehensively that the number of people watching a sporting event equates to it’s overall popularity, all those numbers are, are just a talking point, no more or less.
To imply I or others live in a bubble but not the real world shows a lack of understanding and really reflects poorly on you.

Women’s football in Australia: Start making noise now

That may or may not of been the past Blaze, I’m not going to accept it as our future. You shouldn’t either, if you are serious about the game.

Are you serious about the game?

Women’s football in Australia: Start making noise now

I can’t work you out NoMates, I really can’t. Maybe you enjoy sticking the boot in, is that it?

Can you recall the last time you said anything positive about football, I mean really positive? here is a challenge for you, for every negative comment you make, you but me a beer and for every positive comment you make I’ll be you a beverage of your choice when we are at Hindmarsh together. Of course you will have to use your real name on here so I can find you.

Women’s football in Australia: Start making noise now

Andy, you are contributing to the negative cycle mate. YOU are now a part time journalist, like it or not. Yes report facts, and if you are going to voice an opinion make it a positive one.

Can I strongly recommend a couple of thing to you. DROP the anonymous pseudonym and use your real name, Yeah we know you can be controversial at times, we all know you are one eyed Adelaide United, but I believe hiding behind a false name, won’t protect you. You’re love ones know who you are.

Women’s football in Australia: Start making noise now

Glass half empty Redondo? Yes that has been the pattern in the past, and you have every right to feel down hearted by those past records. The difference this time round will be the likes of you and me, not accepting the past as our future.

So my challenge to you my friend, is from now on, only positive takes on the most down heartening situations. Don’t accept any negative comments without putting a positive prospective it to.

Can you do it?

Women’s football in Australia: Start making noise now

I’m on board Texi, I am just a mere amateur at this caper, but I want to contribute. So my goal will be to submit one article on the our girls playing football, per month. Not sure how I can do it but it is a start. I encourage every other reader and writer of articles to match or better me.

Women’s football in Australia: Start making noise now

So in effect, we hold two opposite views on what a sporting landscape should look like.

We will agree to disagree, until the cows come home.

Good chat, only thing missing was the beer and sharing a shout or two.

Priority picks, draft concessions and compromise: How to overhaul the draft

I think it will depend on who you ask about the La Liga comparison. Ask any Spaniard or American and you will no doubt get two distinctive and different answers.
I will agree with you that expressing an opinion is never a going to win an argument. In truth it was never my intention to try and persuade an AFL fan that the system they use is unfair, as a sporting contest.
In such a small market that Australia is, the likes of Celtic or Rangers scenario taking hold I believe is extremely unlikely. There are too many individuals at various other clubs to allow that to happen.
I am certain that in a free sporting market, the likes of Collingwood, West Coast, Adelaide, Port Adelaide, Richmond, Geelong would share the majority of the Premierships, then you throw in Carlton, and or Melbourne who also have serious money people available to them, and the Premierships will still be shared around.It may mean the Northern clubs may have to either stand on their own two feet or disappear, but in a free market, that is what should happen.

Priority picks, draft concessions and compromise: How to overhaul the draft

the beauty of this comment Chopper, is that until you mentioned it, I had no idea the NRL was still running, let alone being installed in Qld.

The Socceroos and West Ham United winning should make football fans very uncomfortable

@k2K – you have generalized re the European situation, but that’s OK most of the leagues over there last season and there are 55 different leagues we are talking about now, didn’t have a ‘traditional’ winner of their league. Yes England did, and Germany did, Spain and France and Italy did not. Many will argue that those seasons are the exception not the rule. That would be a fair comment.

I still say that their system is a much fairer sporting contest than we have here in the AFL. Under the current AFL system it would be fair to assume that North Melbourne, Adelaide FC and the GC Suns will win a flag within the next 18 years, so in fact their turn will come around sooner or later. Not by them doing some development of any players who they can retain, but simply because it will be their turn, and the AFL system thinks it is better that it is shared around rather than them doing something for the game.

I know i am not going to convince anyone of that, just like it is most likely no one will come up with a sound proof argument to prove me wrong.

Priority picks, draft concessions and compromise: How to overhaul the draft

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