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No worries mate!

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

I gave up on the Advertiser too, and I’m no port supporter..
Points for your consideration:
– the ‘Chief’ football writer is a very opinionated port adelaide person – who never writes a decent word about the crows. Even this week, he chooses to write a column on Jacobs’ injury concerns, rather than the masterstroke by the Crows’ coach of subbing him and turning the game… this is just one example.
– As for the Dangerfield thing, they did it too for Boak. It works both ways. (Funny how the port people refer to it as the ‘Crowvertiser’ and (some) Crow people (still) refer to it as the ‘Chad-vertiser’ – it just depends which team is in the better form.
In short, i agree, it’s a rubbish rag – but it’s not all FOR adelaide crows…

Wrong! Port Adelaide are not pretenders

Dear Mastermind,

Correction: The Adelaide crows never exceeded the salary cap in Kurt Tippett payments – as confirmed by the AFL in the washup.

Previewing the Crows and Port in AFL season 2013

The only good thing about this indian tour is that England are already licking their lips…

Who cares about India?

Hi. Not carrying on, making a point.
So the day is about packing out the stadium? Isn’t it to commemorate an historic day in Australia’s history?

You’d get enough people…more than enough.

cheers

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

Hi Matt,

just to take a couple of points of yours from your last comment below.

“The right to play on any day doesn’t exist and nor should it”

“Rights and fairness are having nothing to do with why this game continues to exist”

Hear Hear!

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

See checkside’s comment below.
Unless ANZAC day is a day commemorating Essendon and Collingwood’s contribution to the first world war, then every team should have the chance to play on anzac day…

You probably have nothing to fear however, as the AFL will probably never fix this…

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

Essendon and Collingwood can still play, they just have to qualify. There’s no such thing as a free lunch. See checkside’s comment below…

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

Nice one checkside…

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

You don’t need to apologise Dixie… Inverarity, Clarke and Arthur do…

My public apology to Nathan Lyon

That can’t be right about the RSL because they started their annual ANZAC day matches in the SANFL in the 50s and 60s. Unless perhaps the Victorian and South Australian RSLs had different views on playing on Anzac day, which, if this is the case means that the SANFL came up with the idea and definitely not Sheedy – so I disagree that it is fair to say the it’s 100% because of sheedy.
On the Queens birthday topic, i would argue that this is a meaningless day on the australian calendar, so collingwood and melb can have this game. ANZAC day means a lot to everyone not just coll and ess.
Although I wouldn’t actually be arguing if they did take it away from Collingwood and Melbourne so that, again, someone else can get a stand alone game on a public holiday and generate further support/revenue/income that a lot of clubs really really need (much more than collingwood).
I hope you respect this difference of opinion.
cheers

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

you too…

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

good argument… you’re well informed

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

thanks

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

Precisely, in my opinion, it’s the latter… and is one of the points i’m trying to get across…

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

You’ve missed the point sorry, and it may be because this article was actually edited by the Roar quite a bit. … it wasn’t saying that Essendon should be removed from the anzac day clash on the basis of the assumptions of the club’s guilt, it was arguing that they should be removed regardless of their guilt – and that this was a good opportunity to do so. So i agree entirely that they are innocent until proven guilty.I t was also saying that the afl might be forced to do it if ASADA step in ahead of the AFL and ban essendon (you never know) so we should think about it. Should we not have an ANZAC day match if Essendon are banned? Or should someone else play?
Wouldn’t you be jealous if two clubs get sole rights to Australia and New Zealand’s day to the game you love? (note: NZ and Aust’s day, NOT collingwood and Essendon). I don’t think your dictator comments were called for and is perhaps a reflection of your character.
cheers.
by the way, ANZAC day was first played in the SANFL in the 60s, hardly thought of by ess and coll.

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

Hi. Yes this might be a good option if ANZAC day falls on the weekend…
cheers

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

You’ve missed the point sorry, and it may be because this article was actually edited by the Roar quite a bit. … it wasn’t saying that Essendon should be removed from the anzac day clash on the basis of the assumptions of the club’s guilt, it was arguing that they should be removed regardless of their guilt – and that this was a good opportunity to do so. So i agree entirely that they are innocent until proven guilty.

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

You’ve missed the point sorry, and it may be because this article was actually edited by the Roar quite a bit. … it wasn’t saying that Essendon should be removed from the anzac day clash on the basis of the assumptions of the club’s guilt, it was arguing that they should be removed regardless of their guilt – and that this was a good opportunity to do so. So i agree entirely that they are innocent until proven guilty.

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

Hi. See above comment.

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

Thanks for some informed response/opinion rather than in just anger… as this article was actually edited by the Roar quite a bit. … it wasn’t saying that Essendon should be removed from the anzac day clash on the basis of the assumptions of the club’s guilt, it was arguing that they should be removed regardless of their guilt – and that this was a good opportunity to do so. So i agree entirely that they are innocent until proven guilty.
It was also saying that the afl might be forced to do it if ASADA step in ahead of the AFL and ban essendon (you never know) so we should think about it. Should we not have an ANZAC day match if Essendon are banned? Or should someone else play?
I don’t know, I think maybe it would be possible to generate a massive crowd for Hawks/Swans if they had the sole fixture – lets give it a try!

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

At least you got the point of the article, in that it was about the inequality of the system rather than banning essendon because they’re guilty of drugs (which has been misinterpreted by other readers largely due to the editing of the article by the Roar – see other comments).
Yes this is the common response, and is obviously the view of the AFL too. However say Essendon is banned by ASADA (yes, unlikely but not entirely impossible) should at least someone have a turn then? This was one of the points of the article also.
I don’t know about Ess and Coll building it up to what it is. It’s Australia and New Zealand’s Day, not Essendon and Collingwood’s. Besides, ANZAC Day games first started in the SANFL in the 60s…
cheers

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

One of the points of this article is saying that the afl might be forced to do something else with the Anzac day match if ASADA step in ahead of the AFL and ban essendon (you never know) so we should think about it. Should we not have an ANZAC day match if Essendon are banned? Or should someone be able to play? Note – TheRoar changed this article quite a bit at the start and i think led some readers down the wrong track…
In a difference of opinion, i don’t think it is purely because of essendon and collingwood that it is a big game. I believe the game is bigger than any clubs that play.
I don’t understand your last sentence.
cheers.

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

Actually this isn’t the point of the article at all, and it was in fact edited quite a bit… it wasn’t saying that Essendon should be removed from the anzac day clash on the basis of the assumptions of the club’s guilt, it was arguing that they should be removed regardless of their guilt – and that this was a good opportunity to do so. It was also saying that the afl might be forced to do it if ASADA step in ahead of the AFL and ban essendon (you never know) so we should think about it. Should we not have an ANZAC day match if Essendon are banned? Or should someone else play?

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

Actually this article was edited quite a bit… it wasn’t saying that Essendon should be removed from the anzac day clash on the basis of the assumptions of the club’s guilt, it was arguing that they should be removed regardless of their guilt – and that this was a good opportunity to do so. It was also saying that the afl might be forced to do it if ASADA step in ahead of the AFL and ban essendon (you never know) so we should think about it. Should we not have an ANZAC day match if Essendon are banned? Or should someone else play? TheRoar changed it quite a bit at the start…
As for your last comment, it’s just a difference of opinion. I believe that the game is bigger than the clubs and that whoever plays on anzac day WOULD generate the same crowd. cheers

Take ANZAC Day away from Essendon

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