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Got any figures for that? I’d have no idea where to find them.

The Wrap: Super Rugby goes up a level, as Australia and New Zealand eye each other off

Right. So Augustin Pichots run as chairman was because Australia are the darlings of world rugby?

There’s just no logic or credibility to what you’re saying.

The Wrap: Super Rugby goes up a level, as Australia and New Zealand eye each other off

I’ll bow to your understanding here Rhino. I’m fairly new (last 2-3 years) to the rugby world, so don’t have an understanding of the longer-term opinions/thoughts about SA involvement.
Since I’ve come along most of the conversations have been negative about timezone and travel difficulties, although they do acknowledge the financial benefits of partnership with SA.

The Wrap: Super Rugby goes up a level, as Australia and New Zealand eye each other off

I agree, it’s a fantastic competition. But you’ve just proven my point, that self-interest reigns supreme in international decision making.

The Wrap: Super Rugby goes up a level, as Australia and New Zealand eye each other off

Really? And Home-Nation dominance of WRU has no bearing? It’s widely agreed that a globally aligned calendar will be good for the game, yet even guarantees of preserving the integrity of the Six-Nations competition, Scotland refused for fears of relegation (as did Italy, though they aren’t a home-nation).

Get off your soapbox and recognise that England is just as guilty as Australia (and the rest) of looking out for their own interests.

The Wrap: Super Rugby goes up a level, as Australia and New Zealand eye each other off

That’s a fairly inaccurate statement…

South Africa has undeniably been looking towards Europe over the last 18 months. The switch of the Kings and Cheetahs to the Pro-14, regular rumours of SA trying to join the Six (Seven?) Nations competitions, are indicative of a desire by the SA administration to try and engage with a competition structure that better aligns with their timezones, travel schedules, and European broadcast revenue.

To solely blame AU interests is unfair and inaccurate.

The Wrap: Super Rugby goes up a level, as Australia and New Zealand eye each other off

Thanks for this, I’m interested to see where this series goes! Definitely a bold attempt 🙂

First and most obviously, you haven’t said what you replace Super Rugby with. You can’t just claim $50mill in savings without at least signposting what you replace the premier competition with.

How to fix Australian rugby, Part 2: Reducing operating costs

Fairly sure we’re agreeing 😁

All of what you say makes sense, and I agree about the quality of Fardy prior to his dumping. I’ve often wondered about his axing, and in an interview I heard (read?) with him he seemed to be holding back opinions about Cheikas tenure and his own non-selection.

Perhaps he wasn’t onboard with the direction Cheika was taking and was vocal about it..

Australia’s other forgotten man stands up at Suncorp

Hugh, out of interest which podcast was it?

Australia’s other forgotten man stands up at Suncorp

This is less directed at your comment, but the vitriol in general that Hanigan received. I think he offered Cheika, at the time, a line-out jumping #6 with a large engine to balance the Pooper. I can see why he was chosen, even if I disagreed with it.

Unfortunately as almost all of us can see, he was just too small to be able to have the impact required of an abrasive #6 at international level. He has definitely bulked up, and I just hope that his concussion issues are behind him so that he can have an extended run. I’m excited to see where he can go this season (though I don’t think he should be picked yet for the Wallabies).

Australia’s other forgotten man stands up at Suncorp

From my memory, Maddock’s didn’t get a chance to start at FB prior to the lockdown, as KB had a mortgage on the position.

I don’t inherently disagree with your argument, but think that Maddocks has simply taken his first proper run in his preferred position and shone, and (as a Tah’s fan) would like to think he’d show the same class against non-Aussie teams. Perhaps we’ll see over the coming weeks, particularly against the Brumbies.

Australia’s other forgotten man stands up at Suncorp

I’m honestly finding the pronunciation hard, and I trying to learn. A mate and I do a weekly rugby podcast so it matters. Currently it’s a mix of YouTube videos combined with following NZ commentators and how they pronounce it.
Should we expect a guide to be made, perhaps where each club intros a player with the correct pronunciation? Is that wrong?

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

Right, what a mature and insightful response!

Who said the current setup is sustainable? My original statement was that this current iteration of SR AU is essentially meaningless, you haven’t convinced me otherwise.

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

There’s a part of me that’s choosing to ignore the gap in quality between AU and Aoteraroa. I think the intensity/niggle made last night’s match really enjoyable, but agree that overall the standard of the NZ games were higher. Are we that surprised though?

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

Thanks, been ghosting around the site for the last 6-7 years, finally thought I’d try my hand at an article!

You’re last point is so true. They simply MUST beat the Western Force. Even with all I’ve said about inexperience, there is enough quality in that team to beat the Force so long as they match them for intensity/commitment.

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

Are you that down on Dempsey? What’s your read on his form?

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

It’s more fun that way, isn’t it?

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

Re Staniforth, that was my read too. He was obviously pinned in there and was trying to roll.

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

Cheers!

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

Yep! It’s a stand-alone competition manufactured out of crisis, that won’t bring enough revenue to be sustainable in the future. Heck, even now the broadcast revenue doesn’t cover the competition costs.
In many ways it’s meaningless in the long term, although it’s the only rugby we have now and for that I’m thankful!

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

Jez, should the third penalty have been a penalty try rather than a YC?
What did you think of the Reds’ decision to take the 3 rather than push their forward advantage?

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

I didn’t realise how young Swinton is! He’ll calm down over the next season or two, I just hope he keeps the aggression and uses it more appropriately.

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

That’s the hope isn’t it… We can forgive losses and some mistakes if there is an overall upwards trajectory. Last night was an indication of their potential.

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

Re Swinton, he seems to be adding some other areas to his game. He was consistently a reliable lineout target, and gave that beautiful inside pass for Maddocks’ try.

I think Bell will take it as a learning experience and continue to develop. I wonder how much of the front row weakness was due to Bell, HJH, or Abel. I’ve never really rated Abel, and wonder if having a stronger hooker would help both the props.

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

He’s definitely bulked up from where he was around 18 months ago. Do you think that will impact his utility at the lineout?

Having a jumping #8 would be pretty useful, especially with Simmons as a more than competent lineout general.

What we know ahead of Super Rugby AU Round 1