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Professional musician Toured nationally and internationally working with some of the best rock legends and elite musicians in Australia and abroad, in many different styles of music, live and in the studio for many years. The pen is mightier than the sword

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Now I have heard everything…The colour pink undermines them?
I’m glad they are not wearing pink anymore, as I feel their horrid standards and arrogance didn’t do justice for the cause that I thought they were supporting wearing pink.
Or was that just for attempted sympathy?
Going by their authoritarian attitudes maybe black is more appropriate.

NRL refs no longer pretty in pink

I understood what you were saying Dufeyz and you were right regarding the reasons, as said in the press, why we ended up with this policy. I was elaborating as to why the coaches probably voted for it, believing the standards may have been improved by the NRL, which as I said, clearly haven’t. I wasn’t saying you were denying anything about the standards. The heading wasn’t directed at you it was more a general statement.
But I don’t believe it is as difficult as it is being portrayed though, to sort the consistency mess out.
I disagree with the bagging term in most cases and that it takes pressure off players or coaches just because coaches are voicing their concerns about the referees performance on the day.
Bagging is one way to look at it, constructive criticism is another and coaches will always give their teams performance praises and criticisms on what they need to work on in training as well as how well or unwell the match was played. There is always pressure every match before or after on the coaches and teams no matter what views are given or questions asked about the referees unexplained or misunderstood decisions.
Recently there was the international match with one referee and even though it wasn’t a flawless performance, the accuracy of his rulings was better than what we have in the NRL, which has two referees (two interpretations) and yet less accurate decisions overall, so too many mistakes.
For the record, I would much prefer one referee on the field. One in goal touch judge each end and two touch judges on each sideline patrolling their 50 metres. Judging by the one referees performance in the faster paced and higher level international match, I would think and hope that the number of officials I prefer, should be more than enough to improve the accuracy of rulings here, without having to take the NFL approach, which also has had some controversy with inconsistent decisions in the play offs recently despite their numerous officials technology etc.
I believe it’s more a question of cultural changes and direction with the NRL officials, rather than censorship, more video rulings, more numbers of officials and for the present time, robots, in order to get better consistency and better performances from the referees week in week out.
Especially with the very wrong standards, as you stated, in the NRL.

The NRL are foolish to censor referee criticism

I hear yia Sponge Bob.There certainly needs to be a change in the refereeing culture in all grades.
The top referees in first grade and all grades, should address players on an equal level. The disrespectful and has to be said, arrogant approach that the referees have taken, in the way they are talking down to players and randomly answering some captains questions, if not disrespectfully telling them to go away, I believe is completely disgraceful. They treat the players like that, then they expect the players to respect them?!
Go figure…
Thanks for your comments.

The NRL are foolish to censor referee criticism

Another example of politics ruining the game Ray.
It’s always the way….because Tony Archer is clearly worried about answering real and unscripted questions, while trying to further censor coaches, you have to wonder.
Thanks for your comments.

The NRL are foolish to censor referee criticism

Is bagging calling what they all see? If the referees don’t want constructive criticism, how are they supposed to improve?
Everyone who works in every field, improves with constructive criticism. I don’t understand why the referees are any different.
Here’s my personal experience. I started playing the pub scene and have been playing live since the age of 15 years old.
If I quit my high pressure work just because I couldn’t handle, which there were many, criticisms from more experienced musicians than myself, I would have no hope to succeed or improve. All musicians were all older than myself, some were bagging me out of professional jealousy (which I completely ignored and did the opposite) and the musicians who constructively pointed out my weaknesses, I payed full attention to them, took in every single thing they said, worked on it and eventually, it was those words of wisdom (and a great teacher) that helped me become, one of the best drummers in the country. If I didn’t allow them to say anything to me and was over sensitive to everything, then I would never have made it past my lounge room.
Thanks for commenting.

The NRL are foolish to censor referee criticism

Very interesting Muzz and agreed.
Cummins and Maxwell, my personal, to be polite…most hated, ahhhhh, I mean disliked, after Tony Archer retired.
I didn’t know about the tea and scones “gate”….not suprised to hear though.
lol I also like to use the tongue….especially when I’m on the road.
Thanks for your comments maaaaate 🙂

The NRL are foolish to censor referee criticism

I think it’s more than fair rossco, as it was the NRLs bright idea to start with, to again follow the AFL initiative and “suggest” it to the coaches. I think any, if not all of the coaches who voted for it, would be thinking twice after their recent press conferences and the fact that the NRL clearly broke its promises of improving refereeing standards. Both to fans and coaches.
I cant see why else the coaches would agree to this backward censorship policy.
As for the AFL, well, look at the results of the NRL copying their bright ideas.
So, as you wish, I as well as, from what I’ve heard from many AFL fans, hate what has been done to the AFL in more ways than one. I personally, don’t watch many AFL games anymore as I find it a frustrating experience these days.
So to see the NRL following the AFL initiatives is a reoccurring nightmare from my perspective.
Be it the AFLs ridiculous square up free kicks, inconsistencies and the rest.
At the end of the day…two (or more) wrongs don’t make it right.
Thanks for your comments.

The NRL are foolish to censor referee criticism

Well said Max, good call.
I believe a drastic overhaul of the NRL, from the top needing more ex players or people who have had deep involvement with the game for years minimum, making it’s directional decisions, be it rule interpretations/changes or otherwise.
Down to the old school referees and their boss, moving on and making room for the next generation of officials and bosses.
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The NRL are foolish to censor referee criticism

PS Thanks for your comments Dufeyz

The NRL are foolish to censor referee criticism

Indeed it was Squidward….but fast forward to today and he may have had a valid point.
Thanks for your comments.

The NRL are foolish to censor referee criticism

Well said Benedict Arnold, I couldn’t agree with you more.
It doesn’t take an Einstein to sort this mess out.
As for Tony Archers so-called efforts or achievements, as a former No 1 first grade referee and current referees boss….don’t get me started.
I think you should ask him if he wants to borrow your name 🙂
Thanks for commenting.

The NRL are foolish to censor referee criticism

Well said and pointed out fazed, I don’t blame you for thinking about switching off the box.
What amazes me, is that The NRL are spending a fortune of fans and sponsors money on marketing, while choosing to continue ignoring their own fans and professional commentators complaints or concerns.
I can only see more fans and players deserting the NRL, if the bosses of this game, continue these current policies.
Good luck with your health mate, thanks for commenting.

The NRL are foolish to censor referee criticism

There are too many mistakes and inconsistencies from the referees in games, around the NRL grounds, for too many years now.

I understand what you are saying Dufeyz. Coaches are under pressure to perform and their first priority is to improve their teams performances week in week out. Those coaches, which I believe are the majority, who have been trying to ask the officials in past seasons, constructive questions of the officials inconsistent decisions in past press conferences, deserved answers, as well as the confused and frustrated fans. The NRL fans (myself included) who also have had to endure these unacceptable way below par refereeing standards, are sick and tired of talking about referees as well as the inconsistent judicial rulings.
We should all be discussing great games, our great players and how good each match was, instead of the ongoing controversies. So far the results of previously censoring and fining coaches speak for themselves, with not only no improvement in referee standards, but judging by last weeks round alone, seem to be getting worse.
Now that the NRL have taken this further step of wrapping the referees up in more cotton wool, and therefore causing further confusion and frustration with this current policy, I personally, fear for the games future.
One thing’s for certain, causing further confusion and frustration to the fans, as well as the coaches of our game with this new policy, is certainly not the way forward and can only make standards, if possible, worse if this continues.
Everyone makes mistakes at work, but I’m sure that if in my profession or anyone else in theirs, made this many mistakes every week for this long, they would have been sacked years ago.
If you believe that I’m being too harsh to the NRL officials, then the best comparison to make is with how the Super League is being officiated.
In my personal opinion, neither The Super League or any other sports, (Soccer maybe being the only possible exception), which the NRL are trying to compete with for fans, have this many amounts of regular inconsistencies from their officials rulings every week.

The NRL are foolish to censor referee criticism

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