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I follow the mighty Crows but have a soft spot for the Pies and Eagles.

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As a Crows fan I am very nervous yet confident. I feel this is our big statement game and I believe GWS are vulnerable away and potentially not as good a team as last year. This is where we announce our finals arrival and tighten in the premiership odds. We will burst away early and ease up in the last quarter to win by 43 points.

Adelaide Crows vs GWS Giants: AFL Finals Forecast

Arthur, don’t discount the two top ten draft picks in Nathan Freeman and Matthew Scharenberg. Freeman still yet to debut after two seasons at Pies and two at Saints. Scharenberg only coming good now after a dreadful run of injuries. If you compare those two top ten picks to the Daisy Thomas and Scott Pendlebury picks you can see how they have hurt and it is all down to bad luck with injuries. the next two top ten were Darcy Moore and Jordan De Goey and both are going to be fine AFL players.

Collingwood’s self-made apocalypse marches on proudly

It’s interesting Mattyb if the Cats go out in straight sets then their final record since the 2011 grand final sits at 2 wins from 11. The Tigers, well we all know the pressure there. For me, the Tigers are going to get up by 4 points. I expect my Crows to get up comfortably but of course I’m nervous.

The most even season in a generation will produce a most exciting AFL finals series

A factor that always comes to play in finals is also a factor no one can plot on a graph. It is the X factor. It is the players who produce something miraculous in a final or final series. Think to the past and think of Carey, Ablett, Mcleod, Voss, Matera, Goodes, Hird, Jarman, Hawkins, Boyd and co. There will be some who will stand out and produce something miraculous this year. We have Betts, Dangerfield, Gray, Dusty and of course the biggest X factor player of all, Buddy. However, sometimes it is a lesser rung player who produces something out of the blue and above what they have ever produced before. Could it be a Duncan, a Patton, a Dixon, a Grigg this year? One thing for sure there will be new stories written and players who’s 2017 final series will elevate their playing career forever in history.

The most even season in a generation will produce a most exciting AFL finals series

Sorry Steve, my wife nearly fell off the chair when I read that trade out….I quote “Stringer for pick 6 and Cox….is he for real?”…..I think that means the Pies would be paying overs in that deal. The Pies don’t have a second round pick so tough to see the deal being done…she did offer Mayne for Stringer though!

The five-years-from-now Bulldogs are scary as all hell

Roy, although logic leads to a comfortable Swans victory I’m just sensing this game is the upset. The Swans have been magnificent to make it from 0-6 but just fell short of a double chance thanks to their nemesis, the Hawks. I believe they needed that double chance. Bombers pushed them and should have won and if your Bombers get a few goals up look out….Bombers to win by 17 points.

How the underdogs can win in Week 1 of the finals

All the indicators point to a comfortable Cats win. My instincts say Tigers to win an epic final by 4 points with Caddy kicking the winning goal against his old side, Bombers to upset Sydney by 17, Crows and Port to both win comfortably.

For Geelong and Richmond it's prelims or bust

How would you feel coming up against the Bombers if the Tigers beat you and Essendon beat Sydney?

For Geelong and Richmond it's prelims or bust

Andy, if you take the AFL era as a starting point the Hawks still undisputed with 5 flags, however, if the Cats win this one well that gives them 4 and just one behind your Hawks in the AFL era. If you take the modern era as starting in year 2000, Clarksons Hawks still have the Cats but only by one 4-3, so they would equal you on 4 for what can be called the modern era, 2000-onwards. I still think my Crows can get to the grand final and then it’s game on but the Cats are still a huge chance to take the title.

For Geelong and Richmond it's prelims or bust

Cat, I think Essendon are a real chance. They have exceeded expectation already so go in with a dangerous nothing to lose mentality which can sometimes result in a miraculous victory, sometimes an absolute belting. The key will be the start. If they can get a few goals up and get their confidence going, the Bombers can pull off an upset here.

For Geelong and Richmond it's prelims or bust

The mystique of the Bulldogs 2016 rise to greatness has only been added to by the failure by the Doggies this year to make the finals. The epic finals month where we saw a team at the peak of passion and confidence took all before it. They came in, raided the 2016 premiership cup with manic pressure like a pack of rabid dogs. Along the way they knocked out the top dog in Hawthorn, the up and coming pup in GWS and the reliable solid husky in Sydney. They were irrepressible and magnificent.Now, in 2017 they retreated once more to lick their wounds. They need to make a movie about the Bulldogs of 2016, it is something we may never see again.

2017 season review: Western Bulldogs

Wow, didn’t realise the Cats finals record was 2 from 9 since 2011. It’s amazing they keep hanging in there when every year pundits predict them to fall out. What a game this is going to be. Bring it on!

For Geelong and Richmond it's prelims or bust

Just wondering what’s going on with Nathan Freeman? He has had two years at the Pies, then two years now at the Saints and is still yet to debut? I read during the season he was regularly getting a stack of possessions at Sandy but the Saints still not playing him? Any Saints fans I would love to know. A former top ten pick the kid deserves a break. He left the Pies for more opportunity but 4 years now in the system and still 0 AFL games.

Slower than we expected, but the Saints will get there

Glorified runner is a brilliant term Paul D and yes, that is what Hodgey would be if he played. Look at the other two of the big draft in Luke Ball and Chris Judd? Been retired for years. Hodge was a champ but extracted everything from his body he could. Coaching is another question and he surely would be a great pick up in that regard for any club.

Hawthorn's favourite son to become a favourite Sun?

The difference Kane is the players, as stated by Krakouer, weren’t calling Harry “chimp” because of any racist intentions. My point here is that Skilton and Lou Richards were also called “chimp” because of other reasons, not skin colour. I’m sure the education at club level even even since 2010 would mean that players are now clearly told to not use ambiguous nicknames to players of colour. Eddie McGuire’s terrible gaff was the same. Eddie does a lot for the aboriginal community now and made a terrible gaff with Adam Goodes but does anyone really believe he is a racist man? I don’t. I think he made an awful mistake in terminology and has been haunted by it since.

Collingwood’s self-made apocalypse marches on proudly

I agree totally Rick. Three Roar articles in a row since Saturday all on the Pies to go along with the 2-3 per week for the past 8 weeks (yes, including my one). The really curious thing is that other clubs are so invested in commenting on the Ed and Bucks stories, even Tigers fans with a shot at the title! I really see it now for what it is, another hate campaign now for some who don’t have James Hird to comment on negatively anymore. I find it sad in a way, Buckley has become the new Hird for all and sundry to pour out hate on, even criticising his playing career.

Collingwood’s self-made apocalypse marches on proudly

Gecko Cox is 8 foot 6, it is a long way down from there to lay some pressure! Seems he could be headed to the Hawks now too.

Collingwood’s self-made apocalypse marches on proudly

I get your point Kane and certainly think that the Malthouse grand final side of 2002 was a freakish display of his ability to get something from nothing. However, I don’t think you can just dismiss a players performance once they leave a club as irrelevant and the stats show that 90% of the players who left the pies in Buckleys tenure have not been better players elsewhere, even when moving to powerful clubs (think Wellingham with WCE and Seedsman with the Crows).

Collingwood’s self-made apocalypse marches on proudly

I’ve never liked that term “Figjam” True Tiger on the basis that I admire anyone who plays one AFL game let alone about 280 and wins a Brownlow and Norm Smith. I think we saw the hate campaigns against Voss to a lesser extent and then a savage attack on James Hird of course that nearly resulted in absolute tragedy. Now it is Buckley’s turn. I’m not fond of hate and see the term Figjam as jealousy pure and simple and a classic case of the ugly Aussie “Tall Poppy Syndrome”. You can’t stop it in anonymous web forums but you can call people out when they display it.

Collingwood’s self-made apocalypse marches on proudly

Would be a shame if true with the Cats about to embark on a huge game and a shot at the Preliminary Final. Surely a time for his manager to keep a lid on it.

Hawthorn's favourite son to become a favourite Sun?

I listened to Andrew today too Kane. He was clearly stating the problem was not that the players or administrators were racist but that they were ignorant that the term “chimp” was not an appropriate nickname for a person of colour. In the past of course Bob Skilton and even Lou Richards I believe were nicknamed “chimp”. To be fair Andrew clearly stated this on SEN this morning.

Collingwood’s self-made apocalypse marches on proudly

That is a good point Kane but one we can sadly never answer. If the Pies kept Mick, kept Dawes and Wellingham, gave Jolly and Didak another year, turned a blind eye to Heath Shaw’s discipline problems…would they have contended again? No one can ever answer it. The AFL recently has listed an informative piece on the greatest premiership sides (on a year by year basis, not dynasty) of the 2000’s with the standout team/year being the Bombers in 2000. They led nearly every stat and were the most dominant side. However, as great as they were they only got one flag. The Hawks, Lions, Cats and Swans however have all shown the path to multiple flags since. Port, Pies, Dogs (so far) haven’t been able to get to 2 in the same period and perhaps the Bombers of 2000 the most inexplicable. I guess there will always be “what if’s” but some things like the ball that eluded Milne in the 2010 GF’s are just that stuff happens, a measure of good or bad decisions and the luck of the wonky bounce. My wife claims Mick cost the Pies the 2011 grand final by not moving on Tom Hawkins earlier. Who is to know and who will ever know?

Collingwood’s self-made apocalypse marches on proudly

Yes and no Johnno…was it 2014 and 2015 the Pies started 8-3 and then basically reversed the second half of the year with 3-8 to miss out? I agree the heat is on now but this time not just for a good start but a good year.

Collingwood’s self-made apocalypse marches on proudly

I don’ t know about the “strategic leak” conspiracy TomC….the list management restructure point was simply spotted by the Channel 7 camera through the window and reported by Tim Watson on SEN. I refuse to think the club meant that to happen as it was pretty embarrassing all round.

Collingwood’s self-made apocalypse marches on proudly

I’d love Jamie Elliott at the Crows Macca, he is quite a freak around goals. I don’t know about those stats but my wife follows the Pies and I’ve watched them closely. He seems to throw everything at it every time I watch him play and regardless of whether he has the ball or not he goes pretty hard at it. Stats like metres gained and inside 50’s for example are totally irrelevant as Jamie plays as a high forward? If we do lose Lever to the Pies I’d take Elliott and a first round pick!

Collingwood’s self-made apocalypse marches on proudly

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