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Rugby League fan. Panthers tragic. Appreciate sport of any kind when it is at its best.

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Nat some real suprises in your ladder, much the same as mine. Titans finishing ahead of the Storm and Raiders, that’s a bold prediction. Cowboys in the top 8. Not any less likely than the Tigers or Dragons. If Morgs stays fit and they get a good season out of Val then they could sneak in for sure.

My NRL top eight for 2021

Looking forward to reading your top 8 prediction, Jim.

My NRL top eight for 2021

I may have been ambitious trying to fit both the Dragons and the Tigers in. But I can honestly see why they would make it if they do. Year on year there are at least two if not more teams that drop out and with that in mind I just had to pick a few teams who I can see doing well if things go their way.

My NRL top eight for 2021

I ended up leaving the Sea Eagles out because for them to have to make it, both the Trbojevic brothers, Kieran Foran and DCE all have to be fit and firing all season. Three of them will play Origin too. Turbo is already out to start the year. Their is some synergy and sentiment there with Foran returning home and Dessie traditionally coaching tough teams but in the end they just don’t have the depth and are relying on a few too heavily.

My NRL top eight for 2021

I take your point, maybe a better way to phrase it. Basically that as good as a team can be, as much as people might remember them, to not get it done in the end you’ve achieved nothing, and you aren’t in the history books so to speak. Would you want to follow a team that loses a Grand Final every year or wins one every ten?

My NRL top eight for 2021

Leaving out the Eels is a very big gamble I’ll admit. I had the Eagles in there with early drafts but they just have no depth and are relying heavily on Turbo and DCE once again. Sharks and Knights were easily the most disappointing side of the finals series and borderline didn’t deserve to be there while others looked to be on the improve last season…

My NRL top eight for 2021

$1.15. “The game is not supposed to be refereed this way”. “Now play that at normal speed and it’s a try every day of the week”.

The betting markets we need for the NRL grand final

Welcome to tonights coverage of our first preliminary final of 2020, with the Melbourne Storm taking on the Canberra Raiders.

Party like it’s 1991: Why the Panthers and Raiders will be the 2020 grand finalists

I wouldn’t say there is an unlikely scenario, both games will be close. But this is the GF I’d like to see and it’s more than a good chance of happening.

Two veteran coaches who have done this before and may very well get their teams there. The Storm have had plenty of success already, would be nice to see someone else for a change

Party like it’s 1991: Why the Panthers and Raiders will be the 2020 grand finalists

It comes with nostalgia and it breaks a drought for one club and their in a tough year for everybody.

Yeah I’d say it would be.

Party like it’s 1991: Why the Panthers and Raiders will be the 2020 grand finalists

Yeah, fair point. The Bunnies have been playing some terrific attacking footy of late, and when you think that James Roberts and Latrell Mitchell are out it makes it just that bit more impressive with two match-winners out. I have been really impressed with Corey Allan though who like Tom Starling for the Raiders has been a far better replacement than many could have forseen.

They’ll definitely make the Panthers earn the win, and I could see them winning. Kiks is a loss, but Kurt Capewell is more than capable. Kikau can also go missing in defence, which may be more important in this game.

As you say, regardless of who makes it, the finals series has been very entertaining with each side having unique things to play for

Party like it’s 1991: Why the Panthers and Raiders will be the 2020 grand finalists

The Panthers have had a good run with injuries and have sort have managed the fatigue amongst players already. A few got a rest last weekend, a few more this weekend. This is a young side that I think is better off riding momentum and really should be thinking that they will get a rest if they earn it in week one of the finals. I wouldn’t be surprised if Cleary goes to his extended bench ahead of the game though and gives a few more a break though

Ricky Stuart playing the odds in quest for Raiders glory

Well despite their inexperience they have made it into first position, being the second youngest team in the competition. Melbourne and the Roosters obviously have big match experience. The Raiders too, but not as much as people may think. Dylan Edwards, Josh Mansour, Nathan Cleary, James Tamou, Api Koroisau, Villiame Kikau, Issah Yeo, James Fisher-Harris, Tyrone May, Kurt Capewell and Zane Tetevano have all played finals matches or big games. I think they will cope OK.

Ricky Stuart playing the odds in quest for Raiders glory

Ricky has obviously decided that the rest is more important than the chance to go top 4, judging by the amount of players he is resting this weekend. Finishing fifth and hosting the Sharks in Canberra isn’t a bad scenario at all, if they can get the win and the Eels do slip up then at least his troops will be fresh taking on the Panthers. I don’t think the Tigers are a lock by any means. Both teams have lots of points in them, and if the Tigers start well than they could make the Eels very nervous, wouldn’t be surprised either way.

NRL finals predictions: Where your team will finish and who claims the spoon

I definitely agree that the six-again rule needs work as the current application, doesn’t always work. Particularly coming out of trouble, first tackle inside their own 10, you see a side get a six-again call and it would barely make a difference. The NRL though has gotten so much more technical in some rule interpretations and applications that then applying it only in certain situations or giving the team a choice just makes it harder to follow. It should be discretionary, something the refs just don’t have anymore being overcoached. They should be able to identify more often than not what would be of greater advantage to the team with the football. That may sound a bit silly but the same way players have match sense the refs should. That will never happen though, that is the state of officiating so the rule does need to be changed if they are going to stay.

I’m also not sure about the narrative of speeding the game up. We might have done so with this rule but the constant use of the Bunker, even more so this season with the captains challenge may very well negate that if it continues. There are always going to be stoppages in play. How often before, and do we continue to see the attacking team dithering about before taking the tap and going on the attack? This notion that it is a massive advantage when the players themselves waste time in attack needs some consideration too. If we truly want to speed the game up, it will come down to much more than the six-again call.

How I'd improve the six-again rule

The six again doesn’t necessary fit the crime. If it is tackle one, with the ball in hand ten out the old piggy back out was a big advantage where now to restart just doesn’t help all the much. Similarly if you are down by 2. What I would advocate for is giving more discretion to the ref to blow a full penalty, although that has proven to be a hard thing to do with the League seemingly wanting blanket definitions and rules for everything. I don’t have a problem with Gutherson appealing for the change in decision as he was indeed correct, I just think it is telling that he was so desperate not to have the Panthers take the 2, and maybe we have created a contentious issue down the track.

New rules need tweaking with finals fast approaching

If we are going to persevere with the captains challenge than it could be improved with some changes. If it were up to me than the less bunker the better, let’s get on with the game and get over any decisions that are incorrect, that’s life, move on.

New rules need tweaking with finals fast approaching

I didn’t go into it all that much, but the seven tackle set rule isn’t a great one for all the reasons you mentioned and I just have a feeling that the six-again will go the same way, great for some situations, ridiculous for others.

New rules need tweaking with finals fast approaching

I couldn’t agree with you more. We have just given ourselves more of the bunker which no one wanted. It is at odds with speeding the game up like we have been trying to do. That and it is so rarely worth the payoff that we get from it, I’m yet to watch a match where the challenge would have changed the result or really made enough of a difference to bother

New rules need tweaking with finals fast approaching

The under 20’s meant you were guaranteed something to watch before the game. It is disappointing these days that you don’t necessarily get the opportunity to arrive early and soak up the atmosphere on a nice day before a big game while you watch the young talent come through. It seems like something that was real worth while to invest in that has just been inexplicably cut and makes development through the grades more challenging and detracts from the game day experience.

Season structure exposing big deficiencies in our game

Yeah one of those “NRL things”, him not playing should be enough of a disadvantage in winning the medal without docking points too. But it will come for the young man soon enough in any case

The Panthers are playing as well as they have in years and it could win them the premiership

The best teams can win anywhere. If you aren’t the Bulldogs or Rabbitohs you don’t get the luxury of playing at your home ground for the Grand Final, regardless of how dominant you are throughout the year. The Panthers would have played that Preliminary Final at ANZ regardless of the opposition, it was just unlucky it was one of the two regular tenants. The big games need to be played at big stadiums, and to lock 25k fans out of a match, just to appease one fanbase would be a ridiculous commercial decision, the NRL is a business after all.

The Panthers are playing as well as they have in years and it could win them the premiership

I don’t think Penrith have peaked. I think they need a loss sometime soon. They would have been beaten by plenty of other teams the way they played against the Cowboys and Titans, and I think maybe they need a bit of a reality check just to refocus and stop them reading their own press too much.

The benefit of the youth that they possess is I think they can ride this wave for a while without coming down

The Panthers are playing as well as they have in years and it could win them the premiership

The Storm and Roosters have equally as many question marks as the Eels and Panthers. I suppose what I mean with the Storm is that as the season wears on, outside of Victoria those pressures and time away from family and support may take a toll mentally. It is an unusual situation that they are handling at the moment, but as the weeks wear on, maybe we will start to see the impact. The Roosters and Storm have the big game experience, no doubt about it, and once finals roll around they will be the real test for the Panthers. Yes, they have just got it done a few times recently but they have also been sensational when it has counted, and as long as they can keep aiming up, they will keep winning.

The Panthers are playing as well as they have in years and it could win them the premiership

We should have, we had plenty of possession and territory right down to the final siren but couldn’t get it done. The Rabbitohs would have been too strong on Grand Final day, although I do think we would have made a better account of ourselves than the Bulldogs.

The Roosters did slump mid last year, they lost a big game to the Knights mid season and looked pretty busted. History shows they found a way back and without Origin to navigate this year if they can get personnel back at the right time they know what to do in big games.

It is really hard to see why Burton would stay when he undoubtedly would get a run at other clubs, and is getting zero game time at the Panthers. Tamou will be offered something, and he seems like the kind of guy to stay.

The Panthers are playing as well as they have in years and it could win them the premiership