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Penrith Panthers. Close sport is good sport

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Yeah one of those “NRL things”, him not playing should be enough of a disadvantage in winning the medal without docking points too. But it will come for the young man soon enough in any case

The Panthers are playing as well as they have in years and it could win them the premiership

The best teams can win anywhere. If you aren’t the Bulldogs or Rabbitohs you don’t get the luxury of playing at your home ground for the Grand Final, regardless of how dominant you are throughout the year. The Panthers would have played that Preliminary Final at ANZ regardless of the opposition, it was just unlucky it was one of the two regular tenants. The big games need to be played at big stadiums, and to lock 25k fans out of a match, just to appease one fanbase would be a ridiculous commercial decision, the NRL is a business after all.

The Panthers are playing as well as they have in years and it could win them the premiership

I don’t think Penrith have peaked. I think they need a loss sometime soon. They would have been beaten by plenty of other teams the way they played against the Cowboys and Titans, and I think maybe they need a bit of a reality check just to refocus and stop them reading their own press too much.

The benefit of the youth that they possess is I think they can ride this wave for a while without coming down

The Panthers are playing as well as they have in years and it could win them the premiership

The Storm and Roosters have equally as many question marks as the Eels and Panthers. I suppose what I mean with the Storm is that as the season wears on, outside of Victoria those pressures and time away from family and support may take a toll mentally. It is an unusual situation that they are handling at the moment, but as the weeks wear on, maybe we will start to see the impact. The Roosters and Storm have the big game experience, no doubt about it, and once finals roll around they will be the real test for the Panthers. Yes, they have just got it done a few times recently but they have also been sensational when it has counted, and as long as they can keep aiming up, they will keep winning.

The Panthers are playing as well as they have in years and it could win them the premiership

We should have, we had plenty of possession and territory right down to the final siren but couldn’t get it done. The Rabbitohs would have been too strong on Grand Final day, although I do think we would have made a better account of ourselves than the Bulldogs.

The Roosters did slump mid last year, they lost a big game to the Knights mid season and looked pretty busted. History shows they found a way back and without Origin to navigate this year if they can get personnel back at the right time they know what to do in big games.

It is really hard to see why Burton would stay when he undoubtedly would get a run at other clubs, and is getting zero game time at the Panthers. Tamou will be offered something, and he seems like the kind of guy to stay.

The Panthers are playing as well as they have in years and it could win them the premiership

I think Penrith are really challenging the notions of youth and experience as ingredients for success in our game. They have fielded one of, if not the youngest teams in the League on plenty of occasions in recent seasons. Their spine has less games combined than Cameron Smith.

It shows what a good development system can do, their youngsters get to first grade and look ready to handle it while other clubs have to blood players who just aren’t ready yet. They have experience where necessary but they aren’t afraid to put faith in their youth.

The Panthers are playing as well as they have in years and it could win them the premiership

I think any club that gets a home final in week one should be able to host it wherever they wish. Manly having a home semi at Allianz is just ridiculous for everyone involved. However when it comes to a preliminary final I think they do need to consider fans in terms of the venue. The Panthers had a week off, they got double the crowd that they could have fit into Penrith, and they were playing a busted dogs side coming off a golden point win. It was may have been the Bulldogs home ground but they Panthers were well represented in the stands that night, and just weren’t good enough to progress.

The Panthers are playing as well as they have in years and it could win them the premiership

Gould touched a bit on it during 100% footy regarding Edwards. They don’t really need him to be the ball playing fullback that other clubs have with the halves a bit wider and the skill on the edges. Aekins does even less ball playing than Edwards but they still posted 42 points on Saturday. Edwards just does what he needs to do. Support up the middle, good positional play, hard work out of trouble. It is easy to forget too that some of these players are still fairly new to first grade. Edwards is just 50 odd games in, those skills and ball playing will develop

The Panthers are playing as well as they have in years and it could win them the premiership

Yeah that’s an error on my part. Storm will finish fourth.
Thanks mate

Pre-season preview: Who can stop this perfect Storm

Those are all fair questions to ask but most sides have similar ones to be asked about their seasons. We are about to have plenty of them answered.

As Big Daddy has pointed out their reserve grade team has been performing so perhaps their perceived lack of depth isn’t quite the reality they face.

Robinson can coach, but certainly he has taken an easier way in than plenty of others. The team selection in the final against the Cowboys was astonishing. Carrying an Tupou on the bench, and they looked very exposed in the forwards at points during that game

Pre-season preview: Can Cronk make the Chooks champs?

Cowboys yes, I would say are a stronger side. The Storm on paper aren’t really that different and going back to back these days is no mean feat, often we see the premiers fade over the long season.

The Roosters had a great recruitment drive. They bought Cronk and Teddy, right up there with the best in the game and could have kept Pearce if he wanted to stay. They gave up those first graders on their own terms, they had money in the bank for the likes of Cronk and Crighton so they have got what they wanted.

They upgraded Gordon to Teddy, Pearce to Cronk. Was Guerra setting the world alight? Did Newcastle pay overs for Watson, why wouldn’t he want to go there for more game time?

They will struggle if injuries strike, no doubt, but keep close to their top 17 on the park at the pointy end and they will be very hard to beat.

Pre-season preview: Can Cronk make the Chooks champs?

Career defining in the sense that maybe he can do something towards separating his legacy from that of Smith and Slater. You look at someone like Matt Orford and his catastrophic stint at Canberra, Cronk is taking a risk with so much atttention on him. I really feel for Pearce, but as you say the discipline that Cronk has, is something the Roosters really need.

Pre-season preview: Can Cronk make the Chooks champs?

It’s the role of a good modern day winger. Semi Radradra for the Eels. Josh Mansour for the Panthers. Either winger for the Storm. Kyle Feldt for the Cowboys. They do win you games these days whether it be the finishing or the carries out of trouble. Semi certainly was the difference in a few games last year. Moylan and Moses in the halves for NSW? That’ll do me.

Pre-season preview: Can the Eels break their premiership drought?

That was certainly the case last year. We also saw how badly Penrith started without powerhouse Josh Mansour last season. A big strong winger is so important in the game today. In saying that the Eels get a trio of potential backline stars back early in the season. They won’t be able to rely on Semi but they aren’t exactly short on firepower

Pre-season preview: Can the Eels break their premiership drought?

Too early to say exactly how any of those sides will be going in the last few rounds, but it is an undeniably a tough way to finish the season. They didn’t seem to fear the big sides last year so no reason they can’t be claiming big scalps from the get go this year

Pre-season preview: Can the Eels break their premiership drought?

The luxury that the Eels and Brad Arthur have, and that the Titans and Neil Henry didn’t, is the depth. If Hayne isn’t having the desired impact that he should be, there are three or so players that proved they deserved a spot in the backline last year. Brad Arthur just isn’t going to tolerate Hayne being sub-par, but he got the best out of him in 2014 and maybe will again this year.

Pre-season preview: Can the Eels break their premiership drought?

As I have alluded too already, DCE just doesn’t fill with a lot of confidence, especially with an unknown next to him. You say that he was on of the best players on the field in the finals loss, on what basis? He is the highest paid player, the halfback, he needs to be having that influence that Smith, Cronk, Thurston does.

Green was above and beyond what was expected of him on probably a quarter of the wage last year, he aimed up as much of the team did.

I really like Api as a player, he was very impressive last year. But that stat reveals their is an opportunity to exploit him and his size. Charging out and trying to put a shot on is great if it sticks, and probably works best for Api, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t a defensive weakness that can be exploited.

Pre-season preview: Sea Eagles will fail to take flight

Hmmm, some say I might be regretting a strange hunch to put the Rabbitohs in the eight over some other sides.

Yeah 11th might be a little harsh but they’ll only be a win or two off the pace.

They’ll all be done by 7.50pm March 8th

Pre-season preview: Sea Eagles will fail to take flight

Well unfortunately I couldn’t put every team in the top 8 just to appease everybody. This certainly won’t be the first preview where I’m criticised for leaving a team out.

I probably have about 12 teams that I could see making the finals, but as I say I have to make a decision somewhere.

As was the case in writing plenty of these, I certainly questioned whether I had made the right call, but I’m confident in my reasoning. As Jeff says you obviously have a bllind love for Manly and thats great, I hope you do prove me wrong.

TB sums it up pretty well. I like the look of their full strength team. But isn’t any different to the team that was towelled up on a number of games last year, so why do they magically become more consistent or improve defensively?

Last season at the pointy end of the season I struggle to recall a game where it was DCE who was the man of the moment. Look at Michael Morgan at the Cowboys, front and centre when the whips were cracking, could you say the same as DCE. Both are Origin and grandfinal experienced halves. Now he has no real foil in the halves either.

Pre-season preview: Sea Eagles will fail to take flight

I would certainly agree. Plenty had them as top four too

Pre-season preview: Will the Dragons choke in 2018?

Righto. Learning that Dragons fans have a bit of an aversion to the word choke. Obviously they have lived through some pretty good examples so maybe I’ll be more careful using that tired old cliche in future Saints articles.

Wasn’t really sure what new stuff you were hoping to learn from the article. It generated discussion, got an opinion out of you. You seem to agree that they will finish in the 8, others don’t. I’m interested to hear the thoughts of others and gauge the season ahead.

Pre-season preview: Will the Dragons choke in 2018?

Learning a lot about Dragons fans today. They don’t like the word choke. I don’t think a team can ever say they lose that tag for good. But the Dragons “choke” of last year certainly wasn’t up there with the likes of ’09. No I don’t think you are alone on Widdop, if Wayne Bennett thinks of it than it probably is something worth considering. But people seem to have a big wrap on Dufty so that is probably how the season will start

Pre-season preview: Will the Dragons choke in 2018?

Didn’t really go into any detail on Dugan but couldn’t agree more – disruptive, overrated and egotistical, the team will be better off without him

Pre-season preview: Will the Dragons choke in 2018?

Lucky? Wow, that is a big call to be in that vein of form and put it all down to luck. Sure they surprised teams early but they were in the box seat. You can’t just then revert to old expecations. At that, point in time, mid-season, in the position they were in most people would expected them to make the finals.

Plenty are giving them a chance this year. If I were a Dragons fan or stakeholder I would expect to make the finals

Pre-season preview: Will the Dragons choke in 2018?

After 12 games last year, with only 4 losses, all to sides that would end up in the top 4, it would look almost certain the Dragon would be playing finals. Their would have certainly been some sort of expectation, casting an eye over their “soft” run home that they would play finals. If my side got off to that sort of start, and then crashed out in that manner I would call it a choke, but I guess it’s a little bit down to how you view things. I think the pre-season expectations are a bit null and void once you turn on that run of form to start the season.

I would be excited as a Dragons fan. They have shown what they can do already, they need to be able to sustain it but I think they can. As you say they have some really quality and talent across the park, and if Dufty is as good as you say he is then really they have no excuse.

Between Hunt and Widdop the organisational stuff will come. I think they have enough between them to make it work. I’d be very optimistic about the Dragons chances this year, only some real minor areas to fix from last season and they are finals bound.

Pre-season preview: Will the Dragons choke in 2018?