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More likely with the players Pakistan have lost in recent days. It should remove some of the pressure on our unproven, in these conditions, batting line-up. Do you think selectors will go with Agar’s finger spin over Swepson’s wrist spin when they get to the turning pitches? Agar in Bangladesh, was very good.

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Traditional, radical, bowler heavy, two spinners: Which Test line-up will Australia choose in Pakistan?

Agar is simply not worth dropping a specialist batsman for.My rating of Agar v Swepson for the 2nd spinner spot is immaterial. Its replacing a top 6 batsman with a guy averaging 27 in shield cricket and less than 20 this season. Not sure this first test pitch will need 2 spinners but later in the series perhaps.
If you read my first reply to your post, it was respectful and gentle, merely pointing out why our thoughts differ. My next reply was blunter because you obviously didn’t comprehend the first, although it was perfectly clear. You should note, I never said you were f…ing stupid, but rather your proposal was poorly thought out. I clearly laid out why I thought that. Like many others, I have more concerns around our batting than our bowling, so weakening that batting makes no sense to me.
Enjoy the test series, despite your overreaction. It should be interesting on several levels.

Traditional, radical, bowler heavy, two spinners: Which Test line-up will Australia choose in Pakistan?

Maybe drop Warner and Khawaja and open with Marsh and Agar… in for a penny…
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Traditional, radical, bowler heavy, two spinners: Which Test line-up will Australia choose in Pakistan?

Win the toss and if we are better than 7- 240, we are miles ahead of where we would be by dropping a batsman and playing 3 spinners.
Josh will play unless he is ruled our by medical staff. Cummins and mates are happy with Boland but not inner circle happy. I think, on subcontinent pitches, Scott’s more skiddy deliveries might be harder to combat than Josh’s hit the deck type. Either way, playing one of these two, won’t be a mistake.

Traditional, radical, bowler heavy, two spinners: Which Test line-up will Australia choose in Pakistan?

Not at the expense of weakening the batting. Warner overseas is hlaf the batsman he is at home. Smith is out of form and oppositions have found a way to get him out. Marnus made runs during the summer but was dropped more times than Khawaja has been from the test side. Head is only ever one, of his many wild uncontrolled swipes from being out and neither Green nor Carey have lived up to their batting reputations thus far.
While you might like to try and twist my comments to support yourself, they don’t. I’ll make it really simple. It’s one of the most poorly thought out ideas anybody could read on this page, despite 2 of the authors options being right out there.

Traditional, radical, bowler heavy, two spinners: Which Test line-up will Australia choose in Pakistan?

Sorry, but there is nothing to suggest Agar is such a vital option that we significantly weaken our batting by doing any of your options. Happy for him to play as a 2nd spinner and use Marnus as our leggie option but I don’t think our batting in subcontinent conditions is strong enough to risk weakening it at all.

Traditional, radical, bowler heavy, two spinners: Which Test line-up will Australia choose in Pakistan?

We don’t know how good Agar is in Indian conditions at test level. He was pretty tidy in Bangladesh, however.

Traditional, radical, bowler heavy, two spinners: Which Test line-up will Australia choose in Pakistan?

As if McDonald is going to have any say in the team. His opinion on the team will be whatever Cummins tells him it is.

Traditional, radical, bowler heavy, two spinners: Which Test line-up will Australia choose in Pakistan?

Agreed. The best part of that 1969 run fest is how close it was. West Indies need 1 more wicket and Australia were 29 runs from victory. I can live with roads that provide an entertaining last day, but maybe wouldn’t want to be a bowler on them.

Match-fixing, gunfire, infighting, triple-centuries and hat-tricks: Touring Pakistan is never dull

I did but Siddons stats are better. Average of 44+ to 42+.Probably why, for most fans, he is the one named as the most unlucky not to play test cricket. Don’t get me wrong, Cox would not have been put of place in a test side.

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I can’t think of any others
Been looking at highest runs aggregates in a test by both teams. Top couple are from timeless test era. 3rd on the list in from 1969, Australia v West Indies. WI scored 276 (Sobers 110), Aust made 533 (Walters 110). WI replied with 616 (Butcher 118) and Aust finished 9/339 (I Chappell 96).
That’s a lot of runs for only 3 tons and a highest score of 118.

Match-fixing, gunfire, infighting, triple-centuries and hat-tricks: Touring Pakistan is never dull

Sangakkarra
319 + 105 v Bangladesh
Behind Lara I think Hayden’s 380 ties with Greg Chappell 247* + 133 in Wellington 1974.

Match-fixing, gunfire, infighting, triple-centuries and hat-tricks: Touring Pakistan is never dull

Next quiz. 3 batsmen have scored more runs in a test match than Brian Lara did when he scored 401* in his lone innings. Can you get all 3?

Match-fixing, gunfire, infighting, triple-centuries and hat-tricks: Touring Pakistan is never dull

Special note Tendulkar 201* and Andy Flower 232* at Vidarbha in 2000.

Match-fixing, gunfire, infighting, triple-centuries and hat-tricks: Touring Pakistan is never dull

Barrington 256 and Simpson 311 at Old Trafford in 1964.
M Crowe 299 and de Silva 267 at Basin Reserve in 1991.
Close but not quite …
Younis Khan 313, Jayawardene 240 and Samaraweera 231 at Karachi in 2009
Surprised there wasn’t a Bradman/Hammond in there somewhere

Match-fixing, gunfire, infighting, triple-centuries and hat-tricks: Touring Pakistan is never dull

Jayawardene and Sangakkara did once.
Had to look this one up-
Jayasuriya and Mahanama before them.

Match-fixing, gunfire, infighting, triple-centuries and hat-tricks: Touring Pakistan is never dull

Warner unbeaten at stumps on day 1 is my call.

Match-fixing, gunfire, infighting, triple-centuries and hat-tricks: Touring Pakistan is never dull

Nah. Been done a few times I believe. Sobers and Hunt the first to achieve it, I think.

Match-fixing, gunfire, infighting, triple-centuries and hat-tricks: Touring Pakistan is never dull

He’d need one just to carry his ego around, let alone the players.

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There’s a couple of Columbo pitches in contention but seriously, a pitch where Gillespie can make 200. That’ll do for me.

Match-fixing, gunfire, infighting, triple-centuries and hat-tricks: Touring Pakistan is never dull

West Indies Cricket is a far more complex beast than most administrations, and while that admin is responsible for where West Indies cricket is at, international cricket is stronger when West Indies are in good shape. Any fan of cricket can hope for that, yet realise their admin are incapable of sorting their crap out. Too many individuals with only their islands’ interests at heart.

Match-fixing, gunfire, infighting, triple-centuries and hat-tricks: Touring Pakistan is never dull

Nice. Was waiting for the 2015 Bellerieve pitch to show up. I mean Voges 230 and S Marsh 180…
I can’t go past 2006 Chittagong

Match-fixing, gunfire, infighting, triple-centuries and hat-tricks: Touring Pakistan is never dull

Why? With white ball cricket, most fans always starting to believe that ‘less is more.” Thise who don’t sure will by the time we finish our 2nd T20 World Cup in the space of 8 months…

Match-fixing, gunfire, infighting, triple-centuries and hat-tricks: Touring Pakistan is never dull

Possibly, but hardly needed. Tubby had been a protected species long before this series. It possibly does embellish the story around that innings though. Tubby at his most Bradman-like…

Match-fixing, gunfire, infighting, triple-centuries and hat-tricks: Touring Pakistan is never dull

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