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I guess a folau did win a world cup

Final thoughts on the 2019 Netball World Cup

I am glad you acknowledge your opinion as opinion, Clipper. It would seem from reading much of the Roar since this all started, what you call opinion is deemed fact.

Giving to Israel Folau isn't patriotic, it's funding fanaticism

Now you are being a bigot 🙂

Giving to Israel Folau isn't patriotic, it's funding fanaticism

The Honey Badger has got a balanced view on the Izzy drama. I’ll take the Honey Badger’s word over any of the muppets like Mr Frost. “I commend (Folau) for his courage, for having an opinion in these times. I think it’s something we deserve, the right to (one’s) own opinion,” Cummins said.
“But I also have a spiritual part to me that’s like, ‘Hang on a second, everyone is equal.’” Thank you, Honey Badger – sorry you couldn’t get yourself a lady like Maria to love you unconditionally but mate, you have our support!

Giving to Israel Folau isn't patriotic, it's funding fanaticism

Good one, Comrade sorry Chairman Clyne. https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/wallabies/comments-from-rugby-australia-chair-could-turn-israel-folau-case/news-story/2dbc2f39c3d8356c2a9c35dc08de5134

UPDATE: Israel Folau and Rugby AU set for a court battle

Her comments were blatantly racist. If Folau has actually stated a homophobic slur, I would not have any problem at all with him being sacked.

UPDATE: Israel Folau and Rugby AU set for a court battle

Since Aussikiwi’s views carry so much weight, we must take it as the Gospel.

Giving to Israel Folau isn't patriotic, it's funding fanaticism

Dear Mr Frost, this is a condescending, inflammatory and unsubstantiated article that falls below the standard expected from an Editor. It is obvious there are a substantial proportion of the population who supports and donated to Folau. From my own circle, one is a gay Christian lawyer, the other a medical specialist and the third a CEO of a biotech company. These are highly educated professionals, all of us whom by the way voted yes for SMS, but found the persecution of Israel and Maria Folau outweighs the foolish but well-intentioned actions of Israel Folau. We do not think Israel is homophobic, but if you have come to that conclusion, that’s your prerogative. As to our choice to donate, that’s our business and we certainly would not judge you nor anyone else who wants to donate to RA. Between us, we have served the Australian Defence Force, the Aboriginal community via the Flying Doctors Service. We have seen horrors of war and of terrorism, giving us an appreciation for the freedom that we enjoy in this country. We are pretty sure we have done the hard yards for our country that we love, and we find your article disrespectful. We will not question your patriotism, as we do not know you but we question how you been given the role of an Editor.

Giving to Israel Folau isn't patriotic, it's funding fanaticism

When the subscribe only window comes up, jusst click the “x” to close the window, and read 🙂

Why I donated to Israel Folau - and why I will again

Strange. I didn’t have to…maybe you exceeded the number of “freebies”.

Why I donated to Israel Folau - and why I will again

Yes i will protect you my friend

Why I donated to Israel Folau - and why I will again

Great entertaining article from the Mocker:
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/welcome-to-the-virtue-olympics-where-israel-folau-is-the-target/news-story/2db07c65bb334ebd5dae3fe9e7df4cd0

Why I donated to Israel Folau - and why I will again

Why should you or anyone cares who is paying for it? I and others donate out of own free will. No one forces us to do it. It’s a totally disingenuous statement, and the reasons the anti Folau camp complained (and continue to target anyone and any platform who supports Folau) are because first and foremost, they are petty and malicious, and want to see Folau come out of the legal battle penniless should he loses. And there is that little fear that now Folau can hire the best lawyers money can get, that it will actually be a level playing ground. That whole Folau is super rich narrative is not accurate – he is no longer receiving income, he has several properties but it is unclear whether they have all been paid off. No one knows where his finances are at the moment, but he is not a NBA player with $100 million dollars.

Why I donated to Israel Folau - and why I will again

24 hours ago, goFundme told Izzy to Godfund me. $2,104,699.50 raised, in one day.
There is a God! I can’t help but laugh at the media and Folau haters who were delighted when goFundme pulled the plug on Izzy.

Why I donated to Israel Folau - and why I will again

The point I am making is perhaps you want to consider reflecting on why you are so offended by something you don’t believe in. I have a lot of things I find difficult to accept with religion, and have had many arguments with church leaders.

Why I donated to Israel Folau - and why I will again

Political opinion is not the only thing that Peter Fitzsimons has. He was called out not that long ago for his constant attack and insulting attacks on Christianity for years. The late Christopher Hitchens was a critic of the Abrahamic religions, but he never singled out Christianity, and the criticism were usually well-founded, and I enjoy listening to him and respect him. On the other hand, Fitzsimon with his lack of intellectual talent and desire to talk over everyone and as Ian Chappel famously sledged Fitzsimons, driven by “the spotlight you are always looking for”.

Why I donated to Israel Folau - and why I will again

You don’t believe in Hell . Why do you care? It’s not real to you and many of the outraged Mob. Losing a job is real. Liz Ellis expecting Maria Folau to not support her husband is real. Corporates with their own scandals such as ANZ putting themselves out in society as arbiters of morality in society are real.

Why I donated to Israel Folau - and why I will again

And the question is whether the current state of our society is striking the right balance. Many of us feel the pendulum has swung too far to the other side.

Why I donated to Israel Folau - and why I will again

Maybe ANZ should focus on their own dirty backyard.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/113760856/how-much-of-scandalrocked-anz-do-you-own

Why I donated to Israel Folau - and why I will again

Delicious irony to see ANZ bank rocked by huge scandals in NZ playing the moral arbiter of what is right or wrong for netball NZ.
Corporates whose sole aim is to make a profit for their business wanting to tell you and me how to live our lives.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/113760856/how-much-of-scandalrocked-anz-do-you-own

Why I donated to Israel Folau - and why I will again

You can be gay and not support the anti-Folau camp. You can be Christian and not support the Folau camp. Few things in life are truly black and white. There are good people and a..rse…h..ole..s in the heterosexual community and in the gay community. My friend grew up in a church, raised by a divorced single mother, and all his life his church friends have supported him. It took a long time before his church accepted his sexuality could not be changed, but eventually it did. I voted yes for SSM, because of him, because I understood what it meant to him. I expressed my concern to him then of the slippery slope, of SSM opening up a can of worms with gender fluidity being promoted to my children etc, of people being persecuted for being Christians should the SSM be accepted, as warned by a well known Christian Barrister in the UK, and he reckoned that was never going to happen. He told me when Israel Folau was sacked that he was wrong. People assume Christians are all the same, and gay people are all the same, and that is not my experience. My friend tells me the source of his angst is the gay community and not people like Folau whose opinion he does not care about. My friend doesn’t need you, Peter Fitzsimmons, Drew Mitchell to tell him he should be hurt or angry at Folau – he’s a successful lawyer, with a church that is loving to him and his partner. He is angry because actions of all the outraged mob have taken Australia backwards – he said to me that if the SSM survey was run again, he was not sure it would be a Yes.

Why I donated to Israel Folau - and why I will again

Watching the Drum currently – there is irony in the media including ABC and News Corp fighting for “free press” after being subjected to the AFP raids. The media has been very influential in the development of the saga surrounding Folau, with efforts to suppress Folau’s ability to get funding, present a skewed and one-sided view and suppress the voice of his supporters. I find it very difficult to symphatize with them, particularly when matters of national security are concerned, and given their role in the vilification of Folau, but at the same time, a free media is crucial to freedom of speech.

Why I donated to Israel Folau - and why I will again

So the thought police is now going after the ACL. They have complained that to the ACNC to punish the ACL and to do everything possible to stop folau from getting donations made freely by people like me. This is what we are facing, people. They stood at nothing to destroy. Defame, vilify, all in the name of inclusion and diversity. But keep doing it and we will keep it donating to folau.

Why I donated to Israel Folau - and why I will again

I am waiting from Drew Mitchell or Peter Fitzsimmons to launch another outraged sanctimonious speech about how Izzy is taking money from someone else and that Izzy is the most evil rugby player in the world and how his wife is the most evil netball player in the world. Just watch the $$$ goes up – every single time someone in the media have a go at the izzy, money goes up and up.

Why I donated to Israel Folau - and why I will again

Chivas, i am sorry I didn’t put on the sarcasm font. You are completely correct about telling people to go back to where they come from but if you have read Spruce Moose many posts, this is exactly what he says to the Folau supporters.

Why I donated to Israel Folau - and why I will again