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Thanks for the piece Paul. Always enjoy these historical contributions

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Thanks for sharing your story, Jai. Some important messages in here every Aussie bloke would do well to read.

Footy: The gift that keeps on giving

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It seems an awful lot like you’re saying referees shouldn’t be offside or knock the ball or break any of the laws they’re paid to enforce. You know, if you’re comparing referees making a mistake to a policeman driving while using his phone.

Think you can be pretty sure Matt Cecchin hasn’t thrown too many forward passes as a ref.

Referees do have a better knowledge of the laws than players. That doesn’t mean they’re going to get every call 100% correct. They’re human. They try their best, but they’ll make mistakes.

But if you just think they should be perfect all the time, so be it. All the logic in the world won’t change your mind. Maybe have a crack at refereeing a game yourself, though. It’d give you a better perspective of what a tough job the pros have.

It's time to fix our sporting culture and give the referees some love

You’ve missed the point completely. All I said was players, just like referees, make mistakes. For some reason, you seem intent on ignoring mistakes by teams and only focus on those made by the refs. That’s the exact attitude we need to change.

Player mistakes can absolutely lead to opposition points, whether directly (a missed tackle on the try-line, a careless high tackle right in front of the posts etc.) or indirectly (gifting good field position, costing the offending team a scoring opportunity of their own). Don’t pretend knock-ons and other errors don’t impact the scoreboard.

I’ll ask the question again: why should we blame one refereeing mistake when the losing side are guilty of making errors themselves?

It's time to fix our sporting culture and give the referees some love

Well said Geoff. It’ll be quite fascinating to see how rugby progresses r.e. attitude to referees in the next five years or so given the frustration we saw during the June Tests and following few weeks in Super Rugby.

It's time to fix our sporting culture and give the referees some love

Big fan of the captain’s challenge. For all its faults, the similar system in place in cricket has done a good job in lessening umpire-blaming. I think it’d have a similar effect in rugby league.

It's time to fix our sporting culture and give the referees some love

In regards to the Sharks-Warriors game, you’re implying that nothing before the last try and accompanying missed forward pass mattered. I’m saying it’s unfair and toxic to blame one refereeing mistake at the end of the game when the Warriors made seven errors, had a worse completion rate than the Sharks, and missed 36 tackles throughout the match. If the Warriors hadn’t made all those mistakes, they probably would have won. So why should we blame a missed call when the losing side was a long way from perfect themselves?

It's time to fix our sporting culture and give the referees some love

Now that’s a sanction I can get behind.

It's time to fix our sporting culture and give the referees some love

Yep, not wanting to focus on crowd behaviour here – although it certainly can improve here and there. But, as I said in the piece, sport is passionate, and that passion is going to be directed at refs, distastefully at times.

It's time to fix our sporting culture and give the referees some love

I’d say hypocrisy is focusing on one or two mistakes by the referees as the cause of a defeat all the while completely ignoring the mistakes made by your team, which is what coaches have been known to do every now and then. If they want to shift the blame onto the refs, that’s what I’d like to see called out. Nothing more than that.

It's time to fix our sporting culture and give the referees some love

Yours is the exact attitude I disagree with. Saying outcomes rest on refereeing decisions, not players or coaches, is one-eyed nonsense. Focusing on training referees to deal with abuse, not on other people to stop dishing it out, is a band-aid solution that won’t fix this issue, merely paper over it.

And referees certainly aren’t getting paid millions to do their job.

It's time to fix our sporting culture and give the referees some love

Who said anything about journalists attacking coaches? There’s a fundamental difference between that and holding someone to account.

And I completely disagree with your second point. Forcing refs to justify every one of their decisions will only give fuel to their critics, who can then say “look, old mate made a mistake here, and another one there, which therefore cost team x the game.”

We don’t make players explain every one of their decisions, why should we do the same for refs?

It's time to fix our sporting culture and give the referees some love

Thanks M. It sounds like the support is there for Cecchin. As per Webster:

But this season has been different. This season has been so heavy he’s needed to talk twice a day to his sport therapist, Rosie Stanimirovic. The NRL’s head of football, Brian Canavan, checks in daily.

The discussion around the administration is one for a different day. For the time being, I’d rather put the microscope on our attitude towards refs.

It's time to fix our sporting culture and give the referees some love

I’m all for more journos in commentary boxes. It’d improve coverage across the board, and not just where refs are concerned.

It's time to fix our sporting culture and give the referees some love

Completely agree with that last paragraph of yours, Paul.

It's time to fix our sporting culture and give the referees some love

Spot on, Michael. Flanagan’s comments last week were rubbish, just like the Raiders can only blame themselves for missing the finals.

As for your story about your son’s cricket game, all I can say is I wish I ran into more parents like you when I was a ref.

It's time to fix our sporting culture and give the referees some love

Absolutely Nat – I daresay most people on this site, myself included, have thrown a few one-liners at refs in the past. That’s not going away and, for the most part, isn’t the issue. Just a matter of moving past this ref-blaming attitude that’s so prevalent these days, and trying to foster a culture of respect towards them.

It's time to fix our sporting culture and give the referees some love

Certainly not an easy fix, Rellum. But it’s one we should still strive for. Personally, I’d keep video refs. I reckon they improve the accuracy of decisions a fair bit, and it means there’s a bit of a level playing field in that refs have access to the same technology as fans. The focus should instead be on realising that a) some decisions will go against our team and b) it’s impossible to remove the human element from referees.

It's time to fix our sporting culture and give the referees some love

What training are referees given on how to handle and deal with ongoing, non stop criticism.

That cannot be our approach to this. To hark back to a tried and true adage, prevention is better than the cure.

And no one should have to accept that they’re fair game for “manic derision” just because of their job. That’s the exact attitude we need to get rid of.

It's time to fix our sporting culture and give the referees some love

So many amazing goals, there were always going to be a few we missed out on.

The Roar's 2018 World Cup awards: Player, game and goal of the tournament, and much, much more

Cheers for pointing that out Mark.

The Roar's 2018 World Cup awards: Player, game and goal of the tournament, and much, much more

The Japanese players tidying the dressing room was a great one too. Should have just given the award to the entire country!

The Roar's 2018 World Cup awards: Player, game and goal of the tournament, and much, much more

Jeez we’ve missed a trick there, haven’t we? Still can’t go past Spain-Portugal, for mine.

The Roar's 2018 World Cup awards: Player, game and goal of the tournament, and much, much more