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Tim Gore

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Why Michael? You don’t think anyone should be looking at ways to minimize or remove risks?

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

No. Of course not. Where would the human drama be then…

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

Guys, I declare my allegiances clearly.
What Ricky did was bad. I don’t argue that.
What I’m saying is that forcing press conferences, especially at that point, is a clear risk for having incidents like this occur.
It is.
I’m saying these are enforced whereas other elements of the rules aren’t.
I’m suggesting change to avoid such things.
You just want to blame it all on the man and excuse the situation.
Nothing will get better in any field of human endeavour through your methodology.

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

He is forced. And it’s a recent thing.
The conditions have changed.
The idea that a professional has to walk completely away from their profession because they object to one irrelevant piece of their requirements is a preposterous concept.
And Don, that closure you require for fans can be delivered at a later point. It does not have to be right then.

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

So there are forced press conferences everywhere so everyone should do it?
So there are segregated swimming pools everywhere so it’s fine here?
Change, Donald, comes from rational people seeing unnecessary risk and working for change. That’s how we evolve as a species.
I ask again, what necessary gain do press conferences provide?
“Everybody does it” isn’t an answer.

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

It’s a high pressure, high stakes job.
And none of the emergency services have it written in to their contracts because it would be outrageous.
And there must be sensible review in any work conditions in any industry when something so clearly poses a risk, as these pressers clearly do. The industry itself usually isn’t the driving force to recognise or repair those risks. It’s left to the skin and bone to represent themselves to get sensible change.

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

Joseph…
This issue clearly has to be dealt with fully.
It must be.
But in dealing with it I am asking that we recognise that we are forcing emotionally prone people into very dangerous places for them at that moment.
It needs to be reviewed from a mental health and welfare perspective.
Do you think that Rick isn’t in a really dark place right now over this incident.
I guarantee that he regrets it completely.

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

Both rules in the ops manual.
One is enforced. One isn’t.
One actually impacts game play. One doesn’t.
Totally relevant to my point.

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

So you’re saying that if someone pays your salary they should be able to force you to do whatever they want?!? Is that actually your take Champion? Really? The 1800s called. They want their views back.

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

A club spokesman is a very rational idea. This is definitely a good way to go.

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

As above, Swimming pools used to be segregated. Women weren’t allowed to vote. A white Australia policy was in place.Lead was in petrol.Asbestos was a common building product.All things that were the way things were done that were stupid and got changed through common sense. Let me ask you this: what essential role does the post match press conference provide?

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

Louis, so you support forcing people into press conferences when they are upset and emotionally unbalanced and, if so, to what end?
What are you hoping to get out of it?
Where is the duty of care to all parties – including Salmon.
Or does our insatiable desire for human drama trump all workplace care responsibilities?

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

Maybe investigate the incident a bit more then?
Regardless of what you discover, Rick should have stayed quiet.

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

As above James, Swimming pools used to be segregated. Women weren’t allowed to vote. A white Australia policy was in place.Lead was in petrol.Asbestos was a common building product.All things that were the way things were done that were stupid and got changed through common sense. Let me ask you this: what essential role does the post match press conference provide? And when Ricky started coaching the press conferences were not mandated. That is a far more recent event.
Can you imagine what Tommy Raudonikis, Jack Gibson or George Piggins would have said in pressers?

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

Not arguing that. What I’m saying is that if you force enough kids play with matches one is bound to burn a house down. Blaming the kid would be an odd thing to do.

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

Your comment reminds me of a time while I was in the top echelons of the Australian media where a very senior colleague commented on the downfall of a senior female politician “if she can’t take the heat she should go back to the kitchen.”
Swimming pools used to be segregated. Women weren’t allowed to vote.
A white Australia policy was in place.
Lead was in petrol.
Asbestos was a common building product.
All things that were the way things were done that were stupid and got changed through common sense.
Let me ask you this: what essential role does the post match press conference provide? Apart from feeding the broadcasters insatiable desire for content? What does is give us to justify the risk to those forced to attend and talk? Do we just desire to see bodies out on the coliseum for our entertainment?

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

My argument is that forcing upset people in front of cameras will inevitably lead to these type of incidents.
Why then do we forcing them in front of cameras? What are we hoping to achieve?
What is the reward to justify the risk?
Or is the risk the reward?

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

No mate, totally my own work – well with some editorial input post submission. I mean every word.

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

Well Tony, we can blame him being in front of the cameras when clearly very upset and unbalanced on those requirements. What other industry forces people to talk when they are that upset? Drs after operations? Ambos after accidents? Firies? Sure they can talk in many cases, but none of their rules would force them to. They’d be very aware of their duty of care to the employee and not putting them in a position that risks them professionally and personally if overcome by emotions.
And yes this is sport. But it is not park football. it is big business sport. Millions of dollars involved. The pressure is immense. Yet it is treated like entertainment for the masses when it comes to the workplace safety of those employed under its banner. It’s ludicrous that we force emotional people to speak. It leads directly to incidents like this.

Sticky situation: NRL should enforce a few more rules in Operations Manual after Stuart's spray

Yeah, point 6 is worthy of thought for sure.

Too much unnecessary pressure: Why NRL must change Sunday 4pm kick-off time

That is a good idea! If they could switch the broadcast channel for games that run over then problem solved.

Too much unnecessary pressure: Why NRL must change Sunday 4pm kick-off time

As stated in the article, the game start time has already been moved from 4.10pm to 4.05pm specifically to stop it interfering with the news bulletin. To me that signifies a very clear position on behalf of the broadcaster.
Just two GP games in that time slot opens them up to conspiracy theories.
And yes, this is an opinion site and you are welcome to yours.
My opinion is that your opinion is without substance. I’ve asked you to provide substance. You haven’t provided anything other than unsubstantiated assertion, supported only by your own assumptions.

Too much unnecessary pressure: Why NRL must change Sunday 4pm kick-off time

Well then they’ll expose themselves to unwanted accusations

Too much unnecessary pressure: Why NRL must change Sunday 4pm kick-off time

You must supply examples that support your assertions if they aren’t just to be dismissed as totally without substance. Which previous games – apart from the two mentioned in my article – have done that? What evidence can you provide in regard to 9s flexibility?
Please enlighten us with actual examples. Having actually researched this subject in depth, my assertion is that your opinion may have been obtained from the waste aperture of your intestinal tract.

Too much unnecessary pressure: Why NRL must change Sunday 4pm kick-off time

Sigh
Yawn
My most hated beginnings to a comment.
I’m immediately adversarial in mindset to the following content.
I’m always deadset filthy when punters do that. They must of not bin taught the pacific ways to speak to people an stuff.

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