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Kangaroos storm into a new era

While the post mortem of the Wallabies’ World Cup raged on, international rugby league fans were treated to a double-header in Wollongong on Friday night with the Jillaroos playing the Kiwi Ferns followed by the Kangaroos playing the Kiwis.

But at least a national club Comp would be well supported, when Randwick play Brothers people would actually come and watch, does attendance mean nothing to Union administrators in this country??

To save Aussie rugby we must scrap the states

But as an outsider the problem I have with the NRC is that it has absolutely no tribalism, they are constantly changing teams names, brands and identities leaving fans confused and even alienated.
They talk about Western Sydney being a key area for growth and then cut a team, they talk about getting the NSW fans excited then they change the Sydney team last season, if they want things like that to work they need fans to buy in.

To save Aussie rugby we must scrap the states

Is there still going to be an NRC?
The game is broke and needs to find cost cutting at some point.

To save Aussie rugby we must scrap the states

You are right Roberto, the new NRL deal is diminished severely, we are in a recession and everyone had to tighten their belts.
Codes aren’t just competing with each other, they are competing with milk and bread.

Can FFA save a few pennies and overcome a slashed budget?

The question is how does RA recoup those costs? Will sponsors come back? Do any broadcasters want to pay to show Rugby Union? Will the crowds return and buy merchandise? This report proves that the current business model is unsustainable and needs tweaking.

The Wrap: Overreach stops Rugby Australia coup dead in its tracks

So two refs, quicker scrums, fairer result for the defending team after a held up in goal and a Captains challenge TMO of some sort?
If only there was a game in Australia that already had these rules in place?

Which laws of rugby union need changing?

Agree that World Rugby probably won’t let Australia fall over but I think you are underestimating how dire the situation is in Australia for Rugby Union. Even before the pandemic the sport had falling ratings and crowds, underwhelming results and was losing money.

What would a combined rugby league and union broadcast package be worth?

As far as I know the last Rugby World Cup was extremely lucrative, but even if it is a lock for Australia getting it that’s a long way off.
Both League and Union need to find a way to keep the lights on in the immediate and Union are really going to have issues doing that with the borders being shut.

What would a combined rugby league and union broadcast package be worth?

It’s a share, it won’t be anywhere near $158 million and RA won’t be seeing much of the SA and NZ money if they aren’t playing them this year.
As I said both sports are in a precarious position but Union is in for a really tough 12-18 months. The World Cup will be a great earner but it’s a long way off and they have to get there first

What would a combined rugby league and union broadcast package be worth?

You make a reasonable point although for the immediate future players code switching is irrelevant as the borders are shut and RU have no money but it will be an issue later on.
Union fans worldwide don’t care about League, so a good showing at the World Cup won’t mean squat to the NRL.

What would a combined rugby league and union broadcast package be worth?

Origin is Leagues strongest brand, why would it let Union anywhere near it? It already sells out and rates its socks off, it doesn’t need Rugby to try and replicate it. Rugby’s strength is in its big tours from Northern Hemisphere powerhouse teams, and it will find it hard with that being almost impossible for the foreseeable future.

What would a combined rugby league and union broadcast package be worth?

NRL has a broadcast deal, which will be limited because of the virus, but still has a broadcast deal and before this crisis had money In the bank.
Rugby Australia made a loss last year and has zero assets and no current broadcast deal, both sports have been hit hard by COVID but I think League is in a far healthier position in Australia.

What would a combined rugby league and union broadcast package be worth?

Interesting article so thanks for that, would never happen though.
I don’t see any upside for the NRL, Union at present brings little value. We are almost at a point now where a well marketed Kangaroos Test against another tier 1 nation can almost rate as well as the Wallabies.

What would a combined rugby league and union broadcast package be worth?

Thanks Geoff, always the friendly expert.
Do we really need to play the Kiwis in the present scenario? Wouldn’t it be better to go ahead with an Aussie only conference, that way we don’t have to worry about crossing borders or isolating teams, which is the reality at present.
Look at the Warriors And all the hoops they had to jump through and they are only one team.

The Wrap: No easy answers for Australian rugby

These are certainly fascinating times at present for Rugby Union in this country.
I enjoyed reading this article and many of the comments too, as I’ve said before I come from a public school and working class background not a Rugby background so l look at things through a different lens.
And In my experience Rugby has consistently to its own detriment underestimated tribalism and rivalry in this country, particularly in Super Rugby. What the most supported teams have shown us is that if you build passion and fan the flames of rivalry and get your players to buy in it doesn’t matter if you are successful or not fans will lap it up. Look at teams like the NSW Blues and particularly Collingwood in the AFL, even though success over the last twenty years had been thin, their support has never waned because no matter what happens their fans know they will show up and tear into their rivals.
RU in Oz seems like it goes out of its way to be inaccessible, Super Rugby has been diminishing in this country because it’s so hard to relate to, you have ready made rivalries between the states and also the Kiwis but I see no one buying in, if they can help us General sports fans relate to the Rugby teams perhaps the sport will grow again, another convoluted comp like Super Rugby or the NRC will just isolate more fans, bring the passion and the people will come.

The Wrap: No easy answers for Australian rugby

You have put in a huge amount of thought, effort and time into this piece and that is admirable so well done.
I think that the RU community is drastically underestimating how significant the loss of South African revenue will be and a some serious thought needs to be put in on how to mitigate this fallout.

Australian rugby: A blueprint for the future

They haven’t even found a builder for Homebush yet, so fingers crossed they may push that project back. The fact that it has massive overlap with the SFS project is ludicrous in my opinion.
While these two stadiums were out of action they should have opened it up to a SuperBowl style hosting arrangement, had one in QLD, one in Auckland and one in Perth.

It's time for a Queensland NRL grand final

Agree totally, and I’m an unashamed Blue.

It's time for a Queensland NRL grand final

One thing I will always admire about Castle Is how she came out publicly and tried to address declining crowd numbers, Will this be an issue that will be rectified in the future?

The Wrap: Unravelling Australian rugby’s unholy war

Plus I’m also dubious as to how big the offer really was, it just doesn’t make sense that it would it any way be bigger than their current deal as, fewer people are watching TV, fewer people are watching RU and there is less money than ever in media at present.
I could be wrong but I think any combined Ten/Optus bid will be on the low side.

The Wrap: Unravelling Australian rugby’s unholy war

It feels like Australian Rugby Union has been having reviews since Wilkinson kicked that field goal in 2003.

Right then Australian rugby, let’s get on with things, shall we?

What’s the point? Releasing the figures of an almost deal is futile, almost getting a deal done is not the measure of a good administration. Raelene Castle will be judged on what she achieved (which was notable given the environment her tenure existed in) not what she almost achieved.

The Wrap: Unravelling Australian rugby’s unholy war

Interesting piece, nice work trying to paint a picture of what the game may look like in the immediate to short term future, not many are doing this, I hope the game can get back on its feet and NSW can start winning again.
I feel for both Todd Greenberg and Raelene Castle and wish them well in the future.

The Wrap: Unravelling Australian rugby’s unholy war

I think one of Rugby Union’s biggest problems in Australia is that they constantly underestimate tribalism in Australia. One of the reasons club Rugby is growing in recent times Is because people are passionate, one of the reasons the AFL is so well attended is the great rivalry and Origin speaks for itself being Australia’s most popular sporting fixture.
You need the players to have stoushes to fire up against each other and then the next month get selected along side each other for the Wallabies, that sort of thing will grow interest and lift the standard of Union being played, not diminish the Wallabies.
Lack of tribalism is one of the reasons that Rugby in Australia is struggling, look at the Waratahs, a team playing in sky Blue repressing the whole of NSW should sell out Bankwest stadium, yet the crowds are so poor they are reluctant to release the figures, why is this? Because as Tahs fans we can’t identify with the team, we can’t hate a team in Durban or Dunedin because we can’t relate, we need the clubs to cultivate rivalries but they refuse to.

An open letter to the Wallabies' captains

I’m not sure elite is the right word, but what do you call when people from working class backgrounds and low socio economic communities feel unwelcome?
Look at an area like Penrith, huge Pacific Islander community it should be a Union stronghold, yet the Sydney Rugby Union cut them from the Shute Shield, so now the talented players from that area seek out League as a pathway.
Yes the Waratahs play at BankWest, but look at the attendance there, the community aren’t buying in.
I’m not sure what the story is in QLD, but in Sydney if you aren’t from the wealthy suburbs of Sydney you are overlooked.

How rugby can make ground on self-imploding NRL and AFL