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Two codes a world apart

I’ve never been part of an AFL grand final week but I’ve been told it’s a thing to behold. The whole city of Melbourne hits fever pitch and becomes absorbed with the culmination of Australia’s most popular winter sport.

Ok I take your point although I believe Perez was using a little bit of hyperbole to drive the point that expansion works by citing the AFL, although I personally fail to see how the AFL is relevant when discussing bids out of New York and Ottawa, they are far different markets than Western Sydney.

Want to to change the rugby league world? Cite the AFL first

As far as junior numbers and development go I would have to say no, the junior game down there is still very amateur and so far I only know of one Victorian junior making it to the NRL (although I could be wrong).
As far as revenue generation goes absolutely they add value to the NRL, Melbourne is a big City and consistently puts up reasonable viewing numbers, the club also seems to be able to attract good corporate sponsorship and has a good relationship with the State of Victoria.

NRL expansion needs to start soon

I don’t dispute these numbers but I struggle to see what they have to do with teams in NYC and Ottawa attempting to join League one in the RFL?

Want to to change the rugby league world? Cite the AFL first

If League wants to truly be more global it needs to put its guns away in these so called code wars.
It will never be able to compete with World Rugby on an International level and shouldn’t be ashamed to ride their coat tails into new markets.
And clubs in the Northern Hemisphere should not even factor in the AFL in their thinking.
The AFL is an impressive force in Australia but that is all, it will never achieve what League is doing in the UK or even North America and thinking about them is just a waste of energy.

Want to to change the rugby league world? Cite the AFL first

Because you have to start somewhere Fred, and if you have a look at teams like Toronto, people in that City now know about RL and some people now care about it.
Of course it would be good to hear more local accents in the playing groups but that can only come with time.

Rugby league's American dream still alive

Yeah of course it will be filled with expatriates, the New York franchise has spoken of holding combines and the Ottawa bid wants to use local “Rugby” players but that bearing fruit is years off.
The immediate challenge is trying to get the local population to buy into what you are doing, much like the Wolfpack with their Lamport game day experience.

Rugby league's American dream still alive

I take that on board max, but i was more trying to make the point that some Australian fans have a fascination with American sports and our athletes doing well within them.

Rugby league's American dream still alive

Very well thought out and considered opinion mate.

Rugby union would be a more inclusive, kinder place without Israel Folau and his backwards views

Yeah thanks mate, typo/oversight missed by myself and two editors, whoops.

Let's hear it for the expansionists

I find it interesting that in its first year AFLX was meant to take Australian Football to the Northern states then the world, fertile with Football (European) pitches.
Yet in its second year it has contracted back to AFL heartland.
Doesn’t seem like the way to take your game to the world.

AFLX: The game Gen Z will play in heaven

Last year more than 2 million people watched more than 15 minutes of Super League on Sky.
And more than 7 million watched RL on BBC. (source: The Guardian 2018)
More than Club Rugby Union.
I seriously don’t think ratings is the main issue, it’s governance and strategy.

How many rugby league clubs can fill a stadium with just their own fans?

What’s a music Festival?
I don’t think we have them in NSW?

How many rugby league clubs can fill a stadium with just their own fans?

Great Article Mary,
I think that the key to International development at this stage Is that all roads should lead to the World Cup. The next World Cup has a huge injection of funding from the Northern Powerhouse budget which should make it a great event, for both the men’s and Women’s games.
The NRL needs to work alongside the RLIF not in spite of it, and produce a meaningful International draw that strengthens local leagues and produces world wide talent to grow the game globally.

What should the ARLC be focusing on right now?

I’m just telling you how it perceived up here.
In my opinion The Giants got a free ride In the Sydney Media that year.
Where as teams like Parramatta got hammered for similar on field results.

Is the North American sports model the right one for the NRL to pursue?

I suppose it’s all perceptions. But passing out flyers in shopping centres claiming that League isn’t real footy.
Signing League players at massive overs and pursuing other on contract players.
And dismissing test legends are all moves that some League fans found hostile. Certainly not as bad as comments made about the ALeague but not ideal I believe.
They seem to have gone away from this to a much more community friendly model, and I particularly admire this clubs stance on the women’s game, so I’m not bashing them for the sake of it.

Is the North American sports model the right one for the NRL to pursue?

Yeah I agree, that seems like a viable option. Aldo gives other countries leagues something to aim for.
Women’s league is growing (at an amateur level especially) rapidly but is nowhere near the skill level of the NRL generally. I think it would be good to replicate this fixture for the women’s game even though it would be extremely one sided at first in my opinion, but it could show Super League women how far they have to come.

NRL interest in Super League showdown a world-class challenge

I think with time constraints a three game series would never work but I agree a double header with the women would work great.

NRL interest in Super League showdown a world-class challenge

Thanks for the feedback Nat.

NRL interest in Super League showdown a world-class challenge

Maybe the crowd in China need to learn the concept of having a drink at your seat while you watch the game.
The Giants made some pretty hostile moves towards the NRL and it’s fans early on, I much prefer their approach these days of community engagement.
I’m not sure Football and League fans in the west will forget so easily.

Is the North American sports model the right one for the NRL to pursue?

Yeah sorry Peter Piper, got mixed up between North Western and Wallgate, I actually got out at Wigan North Western.

NRL interest in Super League showdown a world-class challenge

As far as I know the only Super League clubs are Wigan , Hull (who get healthy crowds) Huddersfield and possibly London? ( not entirely sure) share their grounds with Football Clubs.
Unless you count Widnes sharing their ground with Liverpool Women’s but that was still a purpose built league stadium.
I wouldn’t say that’s most.
In regards to the WCC their are really only 6 clubs that are in contention and they all have a reasonably passionate following.

NRL interest in Super League showdown a world-class challenge

Thanks for your feedback mate, it would probably make more sense to do it at seasons end but unfortunately I think with Internationals this part of the season is already too crowded.

NRL interest in Super League showdown a world-class challenge

I’m not sure I buy that line about the China game being a success with only 10, 000 tickets sold I’m sure it’s a lovely outing but I feel you’re just reading me the AFLs PR line but I don’t know the intricacies so I may be wrong.
I’m not sure the NRL will want to work together with the AFL after the beating it took during the Giants year of inception.

Is the North American sports model the right one for the NRL to pursue?

I think the Australian Football would like to have the same sort of inroads as RL is having in the Pacific although it doesn’t seem to be a huge priority for The governing body.
The AFL appears to be trying to emulate the NFL’s annual game abroad (usually in London) concept with its China fixture with Port Adelaide.
Not sure it’s as successful though.

Is the North American sports model the right one for the NRL to pursue?

Yeah I appreciate your standpoint.
I completely understand the lack of enthusiasm for this fixture but I personally think it’s misplaced, that’s what this article is about.

NRL interest in Super League showdown a world-class challenge