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I’m not having an issue, not sure where you’re getting that from? I’ve got another opinion from you and we’re having a discussion about it based on our opinions which is something I enjoy, that’s as far as this goes, I’m not claiming to be correct, everything mentioned in the article and my comments are simply my viewpoint.
Three forwards set to shape their team's destiny in 2015
There isn’t anything in my comment suggesting that I’m expecting blanket agreement.
You believe Pavlich will win the Coleman and Fremantle will finish on top?
I think that Franklin will win the Coleman and Hawthorn will finish on top. It’s the art of opinions, everybody has one.
I think you mean “doesn’t” regarding Walker. And I disagree completely with that. Josh Jenkins kicked 40 goals last year while Betts kicked 51. Tex didn’t play until round 9, at round 8 Adelaide were 11th on the ladder with 3 wins and 4 losses and a bye (they could’ve been higher then 11th, they had played a game less). I don’t think they’ll finish bottom without him.
Josh Kennedy, your best full forward in the comp, is yet to win an AA selection and has never finished top 3 in the total goals kicked in any given year. While a good player, it’s simply my opinion that these 3 in the article will have bigger and better years. And while you tell me not to expect blanket agreement, one of your first posts on the article is “You’re wrong, though”.
I’m afraid neither of us are wrong, and neither of us are correct until the season is completed, perhaps we’ll revisit this article at seasons end and compare Buddy/Hawkins/Cameron to Pavlich/Kennedy/Walker.
Three forwards set to shape their team's destiny in 2015
This is not an article about how the best forwards were last year. If you had read it instead of skimming through just to see the names of players from clubs in the Eastern states, and going straight to your frustrated response you would see that.
This article is previewing my thoughts on the big 3 forwards for season 2015, who will have the most important or biggest impact in the coming season, not how they went last season, which is why Cameron features on this list. He had an injury interrupted 2014 but his 2013 was magnificent, and I’m banking on him to return to AA form.
Three forwards set to shape their team's destiny in 2015
I don’t rate any of them in the top 3 of the most important forwards this year.
Walker is very close but I have these three ahead of him. It has nothing to do with which clubs they play for, these players are just the standout ‘Big 3’ for the coming season for mine.
Three forwards set to shape their team's destiny in 2015
No doubt Clark is talented but he is still very much unproven in the Geelong line up (he did well in the NAB Cup but is no certainty to replicate form) and correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe it’s likely early on that he’ll be rotating through the ruck when the #1 ruck needs a break. Franklin and Hawkins both kicked more than double the amount of goals of any of their teammates last year, and while Clark could kick 30-40 goals, Hawkins will still likely kick 65-70+, Hawkins is the guy who will really just beast his opponents out of the way and turn games.
Three forwards set to shape their team's destiny in 2015
Pretty much what Macca said. He’s often hitting the wings and half back line with his leads as a gut running CHF, the other forwards on the list spend a lot more time closer to goal. Personally if I were to pick two tall forwards Riewoldt would be one of them, with a Hawkins/Roughead/Franklin playing more inside the 50.
The Roar's top 50 AFL players: 21-30
Nick Riewoldt has kicked 146 goals and 88 behinds in the last 3 seasons. That’s going at a 62.4% success rate, and he goes at 60.5% over his career.
Lance Franklin on the other hand has gone at a 58% goal kicking rate over his whole career. Jarryd Roughead at 61% over his career. Hawkins at 64%.
I think you seem to read to much into what the media has said about his kicking in the past, and his recent kicking has been up there with the best, he kicked at 70% this year.
His kicking is better then Franklins, about 1% behind Roughie’s and not far behind Hawkins, just for reference, I don’t think his kicking is as bad as you think it is.
The Roar's top 50 AFL players: 21-30
“You’re wrong though, Cameron was pretty ordinary last year”. It was a simple reply to that, the article wasn’t about 2014, it’s about 2015.
If anything I’d say you have the issue here, judging by your other comments on the site you have a problem with anything anti-Fremantle and the exclusion of Pavlich got on your nerves. I’m kindly going to ask you to end the s*** fight you seem so intent on.
Thanks.
Three forwards set to shape their team's destiny in 2015